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The Union Leader ^ | May 27, 2005 | NHAntiMassRedRebel

Posted on 05/27/2005 1:28:06 PM PDT by NHAntiMassRedRebel

Danger! Unlicensed manicurist on the loose!

FEAR NOT, gentle people of New Hampshire. Mike Fisher has been apprehended. For the time being we can rest easy knowing that this man is unable to file another fingernail without the proper credentials.

On Monday two Concord police officers arrested Fisher for manicuring without a license. In New Hampshire, it is illegal to give someone a manicure unless you have first graduated from high school or obtained your GED, “(h)ave completed a course of at least 300 hours of professional training in manicuring, in a school approved by the (state Board of Barbering, Cosmetology, and Esthetics) and passed an examination conducted by the board” or, as an apprentice in a salon, received experience equivalent to the 300 hours of schooling.

Of course women and girls give themselves and their friends manicures every day, and the police have better things to do than spy on slumber parties. What got Fisher arrested was his civil disobedience. He demonstrated the absurdity of the law by setting up shop outside the state licensing office and giving a friend an illegal manicure.

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To: RegulatorCountry
[Licensing is] also a convenient way to raise money in the form of fees.

Bingo. The State money grab.

21 posted on 05/27/2005 1:52:49 PM PDT by Lekker 1 ("Who the hell wants to hear actors talk?"- Harry M. Warner, Warner Bros., 1927)
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To: NHAntiMassRedRebel
New Hampshire has gone blue.

Just think in Maine he would have been shot. You can get away with just about anything in maine except not paying the state. Failure to have a license paid for annually could result in your being castrated or shot dead.

We nolonger refer to it as vacationland, now it is Taxation Land.

22 posted on 05/27/2005 1:54:48 PM PDT by newsgatherer
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To: NHAntiMassRedRebel

Licensure for manicuring does not require disclosure of AIDS. The licensed manicurist is just as likely to have AIDS as the non-licensed manicurist.


23 posted on 05/27/2005 1:54:57 PM PDT by Lekker 1 ("Who the hell wants to hear actors talk?"- Harry M. Warner, Warner Bros., 1927)
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To: agitator
Licensing is the socialist answer to personal responsibility.

Licensing is the professional politician's (a.k.a. lawyer's) answer to skirting the Constitution(s).

24 posted on 05/27/2005 1:57:04 PM PDT by MamaTexan (Attention *INS*: ~ EVERY year, Illegals murder more Americans than died on 9/11 ~)
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To: NHAntiMassRedRebel

This article is right about licensing. It is a racket to restrain trade. The state has no expertise in cosmetology, funerals or any other biz. I didn't know that until I joined an association of home security biz owners and attended their meetings. Their only adgenda was to get the state to license to keep new people out of the industry.


25 posted on 05/27/2005 1:57:46 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: newsgatherer
could result in your being castrated or shot dead.

Good Lord! I'm not sure which of those I would choose.

26 posted on 05/27/2005 1:59:16 PM PDT by Lekker 1 ("Who the hell wants to hear actors talk?"- Harry M. Warner, Warner Bros., 1927)
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To: MeekOneGOP

Sniff?


27 posted on 05/27/2005 1:59:35 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("Robert Byrd:He may have 'gone under the water,' but the preacher didn't hold him down long enough.")
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To: NHAntiMassRedRebel
Friends is the key word in your argument.

Actually, friends wasn't in my argument. My mother had a reputation as someone who could give decent haircuts to longhaired hippies who wanted to be more presentable when they went home to visit their parents. Maybe you should read my posts. I've been saying "mine the border". Licensing barbers and beauticians is stupid. You can walk into their establishment and look around. If they are using proper sterilization equipment, you can observe that. If not, you can walk out. Would you also like the government to license software writers? Bad software can kill people and waste $billions.

28 posted on 05/27/2005 2:00:16 PM PDT by MichiganConservative (Government IS the problem.)
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To: NHAntiMassRedRebel

"And hey, you'll make more money, too! That's some Live Free or Die! You don't have to compromise your long-term health to get that nipple ring!"

I think I'll pass on the nipple ring, too, thank you! It is like I said, though: anyone who doesn't like the rules can leave the state. This guy apparently move TO NH to violate this law, which is kinda stupid. I hope he's got deep pockets. He's gonna need 'em.


29 posted on 05/27/2005 2:03:37 PM PDT by Old Student (WRM, MSgt, USAF (Ret.))
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To: NJ_gent
I don't enjoy picking on NH, but this is their plate:

This is what their plates ought to look like:


30 posted on 05/27/2005 2:04:36 PM PDT by agitator (...And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark)
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To: NHAntiMassRedRebel

You're nuts. Getting one of these idiot licenses hardly prevents the barber, manicurist, or whatever from getting AIDS, and there is no requirement that they don't already have AIDS when they get the license.


31 posted on 05/27/2005 2:06:00 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: newsgatherer

You're right about taxationland. In terms of Me. vs. NH as to which is more conservative consider this: Maine is a sanctuary state and NH will arrest illegals for criminal trespass!

Who's more conservative now, Downeastah! :)


32 posted on 05/27/2005 2:07:35 PM PDT by NHAntiMassRedRebel (Our only fault is that we're 40 minutes north of Boston.)
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To: LibFreeOrDie

It's true that it's misleading in that respect, however, the law is still totally idiotic. There is no danger to the public from people setting up a little business to do manicures without 300 hours of government-approved training. These laws exist ONLY to fatten the pockets of the schools providing the training -- those schools lobby politicians and donate to their campaigns in order to get these stupid laws passed.


33 posted on 05/27/2005 2:09:16 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: NHAntiMassRedRebel

"Well, Gov. Benson lost the election in part because he supported them. That should tell you something right there."

This is the typical suspicion of outsiders trying to come in and "take over," a sentiment with which I am quite familiar, as a native of a rural southern county next to a growing metro area... we don't care for the yankees coming in and trying to take over, either. But, who poses the greater threat to the unique New Hampshire political culture, though, Free Staters or Massholes? I'd be praying for more Free Staters, to counterbalance the tidal wave of socialist idiots cresting your way from Boston, myself.


34 posted on 05/27/2005 2:19:31 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: MichiganConservative

I'll concede that point that I misread "friends" in your argument, and I like the "mine the borders" thing. Reminds me of Korea.

But, I will never agree with the Libertarian notion that every individual is fully capable of governing themselves. For the general public to be fully protected (including those who aren't capable of making those decisions, such as kids and disabled adults) the law needs to step in somewhere. Licensing for anything effectively says to the public that the person providing the service or committing the act that requires that license has gone through the proper guidelines and, according to the state, is capable. I can agree that it's a good way for the state to make money and I'm not really cool with that, but that's the compromise I guess.

Also, it saves the municipality from liability because according to the community at large they met the standards, the customer saw it posted and proceeded to use the services anyway.

I don't want to eat at a restaurant without the proper licensing requirements. I don't want people who don't have the proper licensing requirements to drive 18 wheelers on the highways. I don't want people to fly planes who haven't gotten aviation licenses. I don't think I'm crazy for wanting that. True, just because somebody has a license doesn't mean their free and clear (see Mohammed Atta). But I won't take their word for it either.

Guess I really jammed my hand up the wildcat's ass on this one. WHOOO!


35 posted on 05/27/2005 2:20:59 PM PDT by NHAntiMassRedRebel (Our only fault is that we're 40 minutes north of Boston.)
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To: agitator

I like the plates. Which other state has a license plate which can compete with "LIVE FREE OR DIE"?


36 posted on 05/27/2005 2:22:16 PM PDT by NJ_gent (Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.)
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To: Lekker 1

If a person hasn't been trained in proper sterilization techniques of equipment that is used on the human body all kinds of bad things can be caught from that equipment, AIDS among them. It's a stretch, I know, but not unheard of. China (and I know I'll get sh*t for this) recently had a huge problem with AIDS being passed in barber shops.


37 posted on 05/27/2005 2:23:52 PM PDT by NHAntiMassRedRebel (Our only fault is that we're 40 minutes north of Boston.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
"Getting one of these idiot licenses hardly prevents the barber, manicurist, or whatever from getting AIDS, and there is no requirement that they don't already have AIDS when they get the license."

But government is the solution to all our problems. Didn't you get the memo?
38 posted on 05/27/2005 2:24:06 PM PDT by NJ_gent (Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.)
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To: NHAntiMassRedRebel
When our country was a free republic, licensing was for an excise tax on professions that the inept exercise thereof posed a (real) danger to the health welfare and safety of the public, or on a privilege not allowed for the general public granted by the state.

That is to say, a danger to lives. AIDS is a stretch, and so are the other excuses certain professions that have sway on state legislatures use to limit the competition. Any profession or trade could stretch some "threat" to cover their jobs, if a consortium of such have money to spend.

It is about time this malarkey was challenged, by "free staters" or anyone else.

It is rather clumsy to use this joke to try to buttress your fear of these people trying to slow the country's flight toward socialism and fascism. Come up with some reasoned arguments against them.

39 posted on 05/27/2005 2:26:15 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: NHAntiMassRedRebel
"It's a stretch, I know, but not unheard of. China (and I know I'll get sh*t for this) recently had a huge problem with AIDS being passed in barber shops."

The country with more government than just about anyone has problems with something, so the solution for other nations is more government?
40 posted on 05/27/2005 2:27:50 PM PDT by NJ_gent (Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.)
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