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Majority of states pressing for taxing all Internet sales
9news.com ^ | 6/3/2005 | Paror Farer,

Posted on 06/05/2005 10:55:28 AM PDT by olde north church

DENVER - 9News has learned that 43 states have joined together in a coalition to collect sales tax on all Internet purchases.

You already pay sales tax when you go online to buy from an established business like Eddie Bauer or Wal-Mart. But a lot of small Internet businesses and individual transactions float under the radar.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: confiscatorytaxes; destroytheinternet; internet; salestax; taxation; taxcollection; taxes; taxoppression; turass; unfairtax
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To: SheLion

Sons Of Liberty


61 posted on 06/05/2005 1:10:04 PM PDT by Porterville (Don't make me go Bushi on your a$$)
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To: Porterville
Sons Of Liberty

Really? I've never seen it before.

62 posted on 06/05/2005 1:11:06 PM PDT by SheLion (I have a Free Republic stalker...........T.Smith)
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To: SheLion; olde north church
The FEDS being the "Postal Service."

It kinda' takes the wind out of "through snow, sleet, rain, or hail" doesn't it?

After all, delivery services are making a killing with profits, while the USPS is losing money.

I wonder where it goes?

They have good service but just can't seem to break that cost of doing business thingy.

Just like that tax payer funded guaranteed retirement program...

Not to worry, for when we all are seen as criminals for being free, then the government has a good chance of maintaining solvency. Maybe...

63 posted on 06/05/2005 1:11:42 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: SheLion
So, then the taxists invented the concept of "presence" out of whole cloth. If the company has a "presence" in your state, you pay sales tax as if the company were really selling to you locally.

That now expands to cover all internet sales. It's all an invention ex nihilo, but lawyers love doing that sort of stuff.

64 posted on 06/05/2005 1:13:50 PM PDT by savedbygrace ("No Monday morning quarterback has ever led a team to victory" GW Bush)
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To: olde north church
I quit smoking 2 + years ago. I was considering starting again, just for spite.

LoL!

I quit for 18 years and after major heart surgery after that eighteen years, I DID start again, mostly for spite but because I enjoy it too. : ) (Carlton's...A heart patients friend)

65 posted on 06/05/2005 1:15:42 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: SheLion
Well, all of us that belong to Smoker's Rights and Forces are quite happy about this news.

Yes, however with a "living breathing" Constitution what are the rules????

66 posted on 06/05/2005 1:22:45 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: EGPWS
Yes, however with a "living breathing" Constitution what are the rules????

I don't know. Ask the FEDS. heh!

67 posted on 06/05/2005 1:33:57 PM PDT by SheLion (I have a Free Republic stalker...........T.Smith)
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To: olde north church
TAR AND FEATHERS.
68 posted on 06/05/2005 1:35:18 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: savedbygrace
That now expands to cover all internet sales. It's all an invention ex nihilo, but lawyers love doing that sort of stuff.

I also heard that if a company has an outlet in your state (like JC Penny's), then you have to pay the state taxes.

But there are no online cigarette company's in Maine, so why should we pay state tax?

It isn't Maine's money anyway.  It is OUR money!!!!

The Federal judge shot this down for Maine anyway.  Maine has over stepped their bounds trying to collect the online cigarette taxes.

69 posted on 06/05/2005 1:38:15 PM PDT by SheLion (I have a Free Republic stalker...........T.Smith)
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To: SheLion
I don't know. Ask the FEDS. heh!

How much will it cost me? ; )

70 posted on 06/05/2005 1:39:17 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: SheLion

That's what presence means. Or, that's what it meant. Now it will be more loosely interpreted so they can tax everything anywhere.


71 posted on 06/05/2005 1:40:55 PM PDT by savedbygrace ("No Monday morning quarterback has ever led a team to victory" GW Bush)
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To: savedbygrace; All

Time to toss another gallon of gas on the fire. There is also talk of taxing both income and sales from on-line auctions such as ebay.


72 posted on 06/05/2005 1:45:36 PM PDT by olde north church (Opposed to spilling the blood of tyrants? I hope to bathe in it!)
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To: olde north church

government = insatiable


73 posted on 06/05/2005 1:54:31 PM PDT by savedbygrace ("No Monday morning quarterback has ever led a team to victory" GW Bush)
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To: SheLion
It isn't Maine's money anyway. It is OUR money!!!!

But you ARE Maine.

Gosh, the government is only trying to do their job and represent you in the best way possible on an individual rights basis.

Do you think the the state government of Maine is Communistic or something?

You ARE Maine and it's YOUR responsibility to maintain Maine as a pristine, beautiful, and enticing tourist trap so your government can take in more money and spend it as they deem fit to make your life worth living as an individual.

Gosh, you really don't show much appreciation for what your state does for you with the money you are so graciously giving them to make YOUR home a much better place to live.

So what, a couple of rights infringed upon, a couple of duties to perform for the cause, but look at what YOU get for it.

Statistically, with your concerning investment in your state, you should in the long run as an individual appreciate your forced investment, for after all government knows best.

All sarcasm aside, I agree. It is YOUR money.

74 posted on 06/05/2005 1:56:12 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: olde north church
The bottom line is all wholesale and retail physical address outlets are unpaid tax collectors for the state and federal governments....throw in some cities and local municipalities too.

In most states, only nonessential goods and services are subject to taxation; in some states all goods and services are subject to taxation (but you receive a pittance credit when filing taxes).

If the states do this, the feds will too. Followed by the municipalities.

Everyone should purchase a copy of The Greedy Hand by Amity Schlaes for summer reading......before it too gets taxed....and before Swap Meets and Garage sales fall under the purview of the Taxman.

75 posted on 06/05/2005 2:00:44 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but recently have come to my senses.)
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To: EGPWS
The man had vision didn't he?

An extraordinary one.

He just wasn't afraid to say what he thought. He wasn't afraid of what the papers were going to say about him. He wasn't afraid of the Democrat controlled Senate. He wasn't afraid of what the world was going to think when he shouted "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" And in spite of all the negative attention he received in the media, he won in a landslide against the Democrats for his second term, and set the stage for George H.W. Bush to win the Presidency.

He was a man who truly believed what he said, and said what he believed, a quality most politicians lack today. Though I admire President Bush and believe he is a good man, I do believe he needs to be even more vocal against terrorism, against socialism, and against the enemies of the United states, foreign AND especially domestic. He needs to look to Ronald Reagan for inspiration, as do all Republicans.

How long did Communist Russia exist before Reagan's stand? How many American Presidents formulated a plan to end Communist tyranny, formed alliances with our friends around the world, and boldly and brashly stood tall against the Soviets, giving them absolutely nothing? None. None had this vision, nor the will. Until Reagan, the best they hoped to do was contain the Soviets, and it didn't work.

With so many forces rallying to defeat liberty and the American dream today, forces like Islamic terror, Communist organizations in America, and those fighting to abolish our rights in the guise of tolerance and equality, we cannot win our fight without such leaders.

We need another leader like Ronald Reagan. In fact, it appears we need several of them in the Senate.

Sorry for the rant.

76 posted on 06/05/2005 2:17:12 PM PDT by SaveTheChief
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To: SaveTheChief
He was a man who truly believed what he said, and said what he believed,...

That's why he wasn't afraid.

We need another leader like Ronald Reagan.

Yes, we do, however don't you think that Dubya' is doing a fine job as a stand in?

He may not have the flare of RWR, however IMHO he sure has the conviction and that conviction IS what is winning the WOT and flushing the DNC into the pit's of oblivion where they belong.

Sorry for the rant. ; )

77 posted on 06/05/2005 2:29:30 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: Gabz
They've basically shut down cigarette sales in the US as well.

Hi Gabz. I used to buy my cigs from Dirtcheapcigs.com which is in Kentucky I think until they started posting states they could not ship to. Michigan (my state) being one of them. Last time I visited their site they were going out of business...........Chalk up another legitimate business destroyed by government!

Wonder how many folks on this site who are up in arms against this increased govt. infringement participated in favor of the nico-nazis during our many heated debates about the rights of private property owners allowing smoking in their establishments and also cheering on the govt. for increasing the taxes on our product of choice! LOL!!!!!!!!

As I always predicted, the chicken will eventually come home to roost. While I am digusted and infuriated at this turn of events, I still have to laugh at the folks who used to scorn us.

How does that saying go? When they came for the Jews, I didn't care because I wasn't a Jew............

78 posted on 06/05/2005 2:32:48 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Don't hold it against me because I shot the SOB. I'm tired of dealing with stupid people!)
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To: savedbygrace
government = insatiable

Government, by and for the people = Doable.

79 posted on 06/05/2005 2:33:12 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: EGPWS
If W is flushing the DNC into the pits of oblivion, it must be in a subtle way. The next few elections will tell the tale though. I don't think we will fully be able to evaluate President Bush's performance until he has been out of office for a term or so. I believe history will judge him well.

I do admire the man. I know he is a man of conviction, and I know that he is probably the best man for the job given the current alternatives.

I also agree that we are winning the WOT, BUT we are losing the war of illegal immigration, and that is a bigger problem than I think most folks realize.

80 posted on 06/05/2005 2:36:30 PM PDT by SaveTheChief
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