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Possible Earth-like planet discovered
Houston Comical (AP) ^ | June 13, 2005, 2:14PM

Posted on 06/13/2005 12:42:00 PM PDT by The_Victor

WASHINGTON  — A planet that may be Earth-like — but too hot for life as we know it — has been discovered orbiting a nearby star.

The discovery of the planet, with an estimated radius about twice that of Earth, was announced today at the National Science Foundation.

"This is the smallest extrasolar planet yet detected and the first of a new class of rocky terrestrial planets," Paul Butler of the Carnegie Institution in Washington said in a statement. "It's like Earth's bigger cousin."

Geoffrey Marcy, professor of astronomy at the University of California, Berkeley, added: "Over 2,000 years ago, the Greek philosophers Aristotle and Epicurus argued about whether there were other Earth-like planets. Now, for the first time, we have evidence for a rocky planet around a normal star."

Though the researchers have no direct proof that the new planet is rocky, its mass means it is not a giant gas planet like Jupiter, they said. They estimated the planet's mass as 5.9 to 7.5 times that of Earth.

It is orbiting a star called Gliese 876, 15 light years from Earth, with an orbit time of just 1.94 Earth days. They estimated the surface temperature on the new planet at between 400 degrees and 750 degrees Fahrenheit.

Gliese 876 is a small, red star with about one-third the mass of the sun. The researchers said this is the smallest star around which planets have been discovered. In addition to the newly found planet the star has two large gas planets around it.

Butler said the researchers think that the most probable composition of the planet is similar to inner planets of this solar system — a nickel/iron rock.

Gregory Laughlin of the Lick Observatory at the University of California, Santa Cruz, said a planet of this mass could have enough gravity to hold onto an atmosphere. "It would still be considered a rocky planet, probably with an iron core and a silicon mantle. It could even have a dense steamy water layer."

Three other extrasolar planets believed to be of rocky composition have been reported, but they orbit a pulsar — the flashing corpse of an exploded star — rather than a normal type of star.

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To: K4Harty

Pretty damn close I'd say. It must be a very small star because any planet orbiting the sun that quick would melt in a matter of minutes.


41 posted on 06/13/2005 1:40:33 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Proudly Christian since 2005)
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To: The_Victor
A planet that may be Earth-like — but too hot for life as we know it — has been discovered orbiting a nearby star.

Further investigations demonstrate that the planet is a remarkable parallel to earth. It also developed a human-like life form and developed politics similar to the United States. Unfortunately, on that planet, socialists gained the upper hand and drove all business into the ground. The people of the planet had to continue burning trees and cow dung, which lead to the state we find the planet in today.

Shalom.

42 posted on 06/13/2005 1:40:55 PM PDT by ArGee (Why do we let the abnormal tell us what's normal?)
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To: BenLurkin
between 400 degrees and 750 degrees Fahrenheit

Rampant book-burning and corresponding anti-environmental policies likely led to the conditions there...

43 posted on 06/13/2005 1:43:38 PM PDT by mikrofon (Bushdidit)
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To: cripplecreek
I'm curious if the gravity of a planet is affected by it's density

The short answer is yes. Gravity is a function of the mass of the body and the distance from the centre of mass. Therefore the surface of a less dense planet would be further from the centre of mass and gravity at the surface would therefore be lower.

44 posted on 06/13/2005 1:43:49 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Proudly Christian since 2005)
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To: Squawk 8888

Sounds right. I'd like to know more about it.


45 posted on 06/13/2005 1:47:41 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (If Islam is a religion of peace, they should fire their P.R. guy!)
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To: cripplecreek

Actually, I don't have the math handy but I believe that a body with the density of rock and the volume of Jupiter would probably be a star, ignited by the pressure of all that mass. That's why rocky planets are small and the only large planets are the gas giants.


46 posted on 06/13/2005 1:47:56 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Proudly Christian since 2005)
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To: beltfed308; The_Victor
They estimated the surface temperature on the new planet at between 400 degrees and 750 degrees Fahrenheit.

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That's earth like?

Perhaps they should have said: 'Venus like' - but that wouldn't have made an eye catching headline.

47 posted on 06/13/2005 1:49:31 PM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (Orwellian Relativism: All philosophies are equal, but some philosophies are more equal than others.)
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To: RockinRight

Moore's a sentinent lifeform?


48 posted on 06/13/2005 1:50:44 PM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (Orwellian Relativism: All philosophies are equal, but some philosophies are more equal than others.)
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To: Squawk 8888

Ive been digesting this. It's all interesting to me.


49 posted on 06/13/2005 1:51:36 PM PDT by cripplecreek (I zot trolls for fun and profit.)
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To: Irish_Thatcherite

Actually, no, just a blob of tissue...like a jellyfish.


50 posted on 06/13/2005 1:51:53 PM PDT by RockinRight (Conservatism is common sense, liberalism is just senseless.)
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To: Da Bilge Troll
I just can't believe that orbital period. It would have to be so close to the star that friction would quckly bring it down.

The square of the orbital period is proportional to the cube of the orbital radius and inversely proportional to the mass of the central body, in this case the star.

Plugging in the 1/3 the mass and the 1.94 day period we get an orbital radius of 0.04406 * the earth's orbital radius about Sol, or about 4,083,172 miles. That seems plausible, but it is close. Mercury is just over 1/3 the distance from Sol that Earth is.

51 posted on 06/13/2005 1:57:32 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: The_Victor
Gliese 876 is a small, red star with about one-third the mass of the sun. The researchers said this is the smallest star around which planets have been discovered.

The usual problem with discovering 'small' extrasolar planets, is the wobble the they produce on their suns is too small to detect - but with the relatively small mass of Gliese 876, a smaller world would produce a greater wobble than we'll say that of a super giant, or even a star like our sun - I assume that's why they discovered a small world in this case.

52 posted on 06/13/2005 1:59:14 PM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (Orwellian Relativism: All philosophies are equal, but some philosophies are more equal than others.)
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To: brownsfan
Gravity is directly proportional to mass

But also inversely proportional to the square of the radius. Thus a larger, but less dense, planet will have a lower surface gravity than another of the same mass.

53 posted on 06/13/2005 1:59:43 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: RockinRight

He must be from a Y-Class planet!


54 posted on 06/13/2005 2:00:49 PM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (Orwellian Relativism: All philosophies are equal, but some philosophies are more equal than others.)
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To: El Gato

Thanks for the calculations. That IS close! I wonder if they have enough data to determine if the orbit is stable?


55 posted on 06/13/2005 2:25:25 PM PDT by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: in hoc signo vinces
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"If I owned Texas and Hell, I would rent out Texas and live in Hell."
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56 posted on 06/13/2005 2:38:37 PM PDT by SedVictaCatoni (<><)
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To: The_Victor

they probably mean Earth-like because it ISN'T a gas giant....


57 posted on 06/13/2005 2:44:23 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (10,000 posts by 29 June!!! 9,914 or so replies and counting....Getting Closer!!!!)
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To: KevinDavis

One for the space ping list..


58 posted on 06/13/2005 3:01:38 PM PDT by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: K4Harty
About 2 million miles, according to an MSN article I read just a short time ago.
59 posted on 06/13/2005 4:39:41 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: RightWhale; Brett66; xrp; gdc314; anymouse; RadioAstronomer; NonZeroSum; jimkress; discostu; ...
This can't be true.. The bible says so!!! God only created Earth!!


60 posted on 06/13/2005 4:39:54 PM PDT by KevinDavis (the space/future belongs to the eagles, the earth/past to the groundhogs)
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