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VANITY -- King Tut Exhibit a waste of time (though not of money)

Posted on 06/27/2005 11:01:22 AM PDT by Jubal Harshaw

Just came back from the King Tut exhibit in LA. I saw the exhibit in '76, and have seen the Tut exhibit in the Egyptian Museum in Cairo, and have been to the Luxor Museum / Valley of Kings / Valley of Queens / Abu Simbel / etc. My girlfriend never saw any of the Tut exhibits before, so together we represent a wide range of pre-existing knowledge about Tut and about ancient Egypt.

We both thought the LA exhibit, soon touring the USA, was a waste of time. The exhibit included no closely Tut-related paraphernalia bigger than a breadbox. The largest item is the gilded Coffin of Tjuya, which was apparently found in the tomb of a nobleman who might (or might not) have been Tut's great grandfather. Tjuya herself therefore might (or might not) have been Tut's great grandmother. That coffin is large, but it is likely three generations removed from Tut, and, even if related to Tut, is from a then non-royal branch of the family. It's a nice piece, but that's as good as it gets.

The famous gold bust of Tut? Not there. Tut's sarcophagus? Not there. The famous lion bed? Not there. All that's in LA that Tut might actually have owned is jewelry, trinkets, and a few small statues, many broken and not restored. Presumably so that people didn't know what they were missing, the museum didn't even have color photographs of the glorious finds that didn't make it on the tour.

All in all, for us it was a waste of time. The price was OK (~$20.00 each), but it was probably worth ~$10.00 / person. If you have a free afternoon, and want to see a few second-rate Egyptian trinkets that may be related to Tut, then it's a way to kill a few hours.


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1 posted on 06/27/2005 11:01:22 AM PDT by Jubal Harshaw
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To: Jubal Harshaw

Tut Light, huh?


2 posted on 06/27/2005 11:14:31 AM PDT by scott7278 (Before I give you the benefit of my reply, I'd like to know what we're talking about.)
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To: Jubal Harshaw

Just another failed culture.


3 posted on 06/27/2005 11:16:56 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Washington DC RINO Hunting Guide)
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To: Jubal Harshaw

4 posted on 06/27/2005 11:17:22 AM PDT by Disambiguator (Making accusations of racism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: Disambiguator
Born in Arizona, ...
5 posted on 06/27/2005 11:17:52 AM PDT by LIConFem (A fronte praecipitium, a tergo lupi.)
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To: Jubal Harshaw

Tutmania? Not the Tut, but an incredible simulation.


6 posted on 06/27/2005 11:18:10 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Pray for us all.)
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To: Jubal Harshaw
Thanks for the report. I had seriously thought about arranging some time to go see the exhibit when it got to a city closer to me. I've always been fascinated by the Pharaohs.

I was very pregnant when the original Tut exhibit came to New Orleans so I wasn't able to go then.
7 posted on 06/27/2005 11:19:26 AM PDT by Sally'sConcerns
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To: Jubal Harshaw

Wonder why they didn't exhibit all the things they did in the 70's?


8 posted on 06/27/2005 11:20:51 AM PDT by eastforker (Under Cover FReeper going dark(too much 24))
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To: Jubal Harshaw

That is the only culture in LA right now.

Is it better than going to the Getty and looking at 3 paintings on a huge empty wall?


9 posted on 06/27/2005 11:22:10 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Sally'sConcerns

That is where I saw it, in NO.


10 posted on 06/27/2005 11:22:13 AM PDT by eastforker (Under Cover FReeper going dark(too much 24))
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To: LIConFem

...raised in Babylonia...

Funky Tut!


11 posted on 06/27/2005 11:26:04 AM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken (Seldom right, but never in doubt.)
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To: BurbankKarl
Is it better than going to the Getty and looking at 3 paintings on a huge empty wall?

No. If you can do only one or the other, you are better off going to the Getty than to the Tut exhibit. I say that as someone who'se been to the Getty many many times, and for whom the novelty of the Getty has worn off.

12 posted on 06/27/2005 11:30:06 AM PDT by Jubal Harshaw
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To: Jubal Harshaw

I'm going to a private party there tomorrow night. It'll be fun even if the exhibit sucks.


13 posted on 06/27/2005 11:31:51 AM PDT by eddie65
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To: eastforker

I believe one of the artifacts broke/cracked during the original tour and they were very afraid of risking anything this time. It was very controversial about whether to even have another tour. I guess, in the true spirit of compromise, a group of 14 moderate Egyptians arranged for this deal....some things got to make the trip, just not anything anyone really wants to see.


14 posted on 06/27/2005 11:32:37 AM PDT by MarcusTulliusCicero
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To: Sally'sConcerns

If you are still in New Orleans, you might want to check out the Faberge egg collection in the New Orleans Museum in City Park. If you can only do one or the other, and if all other things are equal, I'd go to the Tut exhibit over the Faberge exhibit, but if you have to rearrange your schedule to see Tut, I'd see the Faberge exhibit.


15 posted on 06/27/2005 11:32:42 AM PDT by Jubal Harshaw
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To: Jubal Harshaw
The famous gold bust of Tut? Not there. Tut's sarcophagus? Not there. The famous lion bed? Not there.

I wonder if any of his black relatives know where these items are :-)

16 posted on 06/27/2005 11:34:22 AM PDT by rabidralph
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To: Jubal Harshaw

What's the difference between this and 3,000 years from now someone digging up my body and putting it on display in a museum? A bigger tomb?


17 posted on 06/27/2005 11:38:31 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Jubal Harshaw
I'd love to see the Faberge exhibit also but not enough to travel from NE Ok to New Orleans. I lived in Houston when the Tut exhibit came to New Orleans, all of my female in-laws arranged a trip there to see the exhibit and left me at home.
18 posted on 06/27/2005 11:39:19 AM PDT by Sally'sConcerns
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To: eddie65

Watch out. Those private parties with Eqyptian mummies always turn out bad ---

Either the Joker shows up -OR-

Some drunk/security guard/drunk security guard accidently opens up a scarab beetle case, releasing the soul of the pharoah, bent on revenge.


19 posted on 06/27/2005 11:48:42 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan
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To: Jubal Harshaw

I saw the Ramses the Great exhibit and the Dead Sea Scrolls exhibit in Dallas. My opinion of each was the same as yours.


20 posted on 06/27/2005 11:50:24 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Jubal Harshaw
In '85 I saw the *entire* Tut exhibit in the Museum of Antiquities in Cairo for 75 cents. Entrance price was low but it was getting there that was expensive.

When we got to Cairo (drove from Israel), the government confiscated our hotel for some reason of another earlier in the day. A replacement was found in downtown Cairo - a beautiful 1/4 star hotel, the Hotel Tonsi. Main course consisted of chicken and stars soup and a forgettable roasted animal offering. The building was not entirely dedicated to human habitation, as we could hear the lowing of cattle and bleating of sheep as the elevator went by the floors where they were quartered.

But the exhibit was huge and saw lots of gold this-that-and-the-other.

On our flight out, we took TWA 847, piloted by Capt. John Testrake. Yep, same flight number and pilot as the one that was hijacked - we missed it by a couple of weeks.

21 posted on 06/27/2005 12:09:01 PM PDT by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: Aquinasfan
What's the difference between this and 3,000 years from now someone digging up my body and putting it on display in a museum?

If you are buried with a significant fraction of the wealth of your nation in the form of art, precious metals and jewels, then if 3000 years later the materials you were buried with are one of the largest collection of artifacts from your era, then there would be no significant difference. Otherwise, the difference is huge.

22 posted on 06/27/2005 12:10:14 PM PDT by Jubal Harshaw
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To: Sally'sConcerns
I saw the Tut exhibit at the Delgado in New Orleans in September of 1977. I had two days off before I was discharged from active duty from Keesler and thought it would be something to see. It was. I seriously thought about scheduling the LA Museum to see Tut again but since this report just about calls it a watered down rip off version, I am reconsidering.
23 posted on 06/27/2005 12:10:52 PM PDT by vetvetdoug (Shiloh, Corinth, Iuka, Brices Crossroads, Harrisburg, Britton Lane, Holly Springs, Hatchie Bridge,)
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To: Disambiguator

Beat me to it.

Now when he was a young man he never thought he'd see (King Tut)
People stand in line to see the boy king (King Tut)
How'd you get so funky (funky Tut)
Then you'd do the monkey
(Born in Arizona moved to Babylonia King Tut)
Now if I'd known the line would form to see him (King Tut)
I'd take up all my money and buy me a museum (King Tut)
Buried with a donkey (funky Tut)
He's my favorite honky
(Born in Arizona moved to Babylonia King Tut)
Dancing by the Nile
Ladies loved the style (waltzing Tut)
Rocking for a mile (walking Tut)
He ate a crockodile
He gave his life for tourism
Golden idol
He's an Egyptian!
They're selling you
Now when I die now don't think I'm a nut
Don't want no fancy funeral just one like old King Tut (King Tut)
He coulda won a grammy (King Tut)
Buried in his jammies
(Born in Arizona moved to Babylonia
Born in Arizona got a condo made of stone-ah (King Tut)


24 posted on 06/27/2005 12:12:47 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: BurbankKarl
I went to the Getty with a lady with beaudacious ta-tas and thought the Getty to be quite a sight. I'd go again because a) its cheap and b) I missed a lot the first time.
25 posted on 06/27/2005 12:13:29 PM PDT by vetvetdoug (Shiloh, Corinth, Iuka, Brices Crossroads, Harrisburg, Britton Lane, Holly Springs, Hatchie Bridge,)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

I posted the pic, you posted the lyrics. We're a team!


26 posted on 06/27/2005 12:20:09 PM PDT by Disambiguator (Making accusations of racism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: Jubal Harshaw

Thanks for this post.

What's the best part of the Getty (other than finding it)?


27 posted on 06/27/2005 12:23:15 PM PDT by monkey
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To: MeanWestTexan

There's a story by (I think) Edgar Allen Poe about a private mummy un-wrapping party that didn't turn out too badly...


28 posted on 06/27/2005 12:25:52 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs ("Se habla, MoFo!")
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To: vetvetdoug

haha...


29 posted on 06/27/2005 12:26:40 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Jubal Harshaw

Too bad. I went to a museum in London in the early 70's and saw some fabulous things related to Tut and others. Egypt is the only place on the African continent that I would like to go.


30 posted on 06/27/2005 12:28:01 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: monkey
What's the best part of the Getty (other than finding it)?

I think the best part of the Getty is the building / grounds / setting / view. The building has a fabulous view of LA and of the Pacific, and it's very pleasant to sit and have a snack near the outside fountain and gardens. If you go, don't forget to look for fossils in the marble near the inner fountains and some high-traffic areas.

As for art, the Getty is (deservedly, in my opinion) known for it's collection of Greco-Roman antiquities. It has some very nice pieces, and those galleries are the ones I would see if I had limited time there.

31 posted on 06/27/2005 12:32:12 PM PDT by Jubal Harshaw
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To: LongElegantLegs

Burning desired to be embalmed alive and wake up in 1,000 years?

Some Word With a Mummy, by E. Allen Poe

http://eserver.org/books/poe/some_words.html


32 posted on 06/27/2005 12:38:39 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan
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To: Jubal Harshaw

Thank you for the heads up. I was going to fly up to Florida in November to catch it, but my plans just changed.

Thanks again for saving me the price of a plane ticket.


33 posted on 06/27/2005 1:14:43 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

I went to Turkey, Texas to see the Bob Wills Museum. They had his actual fiddle. I also visited the grave site of Davy Crockett's second wife at Acton, Texas.


34 posted on 06/27/2005 1:36:27 PM PDT by San Jacinto
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To: rabidralph
I wonder if any of his black relatives know where these items are :-)

I doubt Hill&Bill looted them; the exhibit never was at the White House.

35 posted on 06/27/2005 1:39:15 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more work horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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To: Jubal Harshaw
How about the beautiful statue of the cheesecloth clad Nefertiti?

It is the best piece of sculpture I ever saw.
36 posted on 06/27/2005 1:42:36 PM PDT by bert ( "Market forces, not political majorities, will compel societies to reconfigure themselves in ways t)
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To: Aquinasfan

Well for starters you probably won't have a solid gold death mask and 4 coffins.


37 posted on 06/27/2005 1:44:37 PM PDT by bert ( "Market forces, not political majorities, will compel societies to reconfigure themselves in ways t)
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To: Jubal Harshaw
Try the Getty Center's new exhibition:

Rembrandt's Late Religious Portraits

The Apostle Paul

38 posted on 06/27/2005 1:59:03 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: Jubal Harshaw

Tut-Tut!


39 posted on 06/27/2005 2:01:35 PM PDT by AUsome Joy
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To: MeanWestTexan

That's the one...What a neat website! Thanks.


40 posted on 06/27/2005 2:02:57 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs ("Se habla, MoFo!")
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To: Bosco

We saw the Tut exhibit in Chicago. We took our then young kids.

Your mention of flying out of Cairo on the same flight as Testrake reminded me of a flight my husband and I took out of Amsterdam in September 1970. Two flights had been skyjacked from Amsterdam, September 6, just before we flew out and security was extremely tight. They took every thing, including my purse, away from me. I didn't start feeling safe until we passed Ireland.

When we got back to USA some suspicious (blackpanther types to me) paid cash for first class seats on our continuing flight and then paced back and forth before entering the plane. This was from LaGuardia to Birmingham. I just knew we were going to be taken to Cuba.

This wasn't an unreasonable fear since a friend of mine had been highjacked to Cuba on a flight from Minneapolis to Miama by the Black Panthers. She and her baby were there overnight and flown back to US.


41 posted on 06/27/2005 2:27:32 PM PDT by AUsome Joy
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To: Jubal Harshaw

Have yous seen Ramses II? Although, I never saw the first Tut (not having been born) I was very impressed with Ramses II that made it to the Museum of Natural History in Denver after an extensive remodeling sometime in the late 80's early 90's. I have heard that the pieces in the Ramses II were much more abundant than the pieces in the original Tut exhibition. Any comment (if you have seen both?)


42 posted on 06/27/2005 2:43:52 PM PDT by Smogger
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To: Disambiguator

I still remember the time he tried to destroy Batman using the Egyptian Pebble Torture.


43 posted on 06/27/2005 2:51:14 PM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: GreenHornet

I must have missed that one.


44 posted on 06/27/2005 3:10:06 PM PDT by Disambiguator (Making accusations of racism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: Jubal Harshaw
I saw the Tut exhibit in Seattle -- on a Boeing VIP courtsy ticket. IMHO, the atmosphere in the display room was awesome, and the artifacts stunning. The funeral mask was spectacular, but I was particularly smitten by the small (<2' tall) statue of Selket:

If the funeral mask and Selket are not in this show, I agree that it is decidedly inferior to its predecessor.

45 posted on 06/27/2005 3:43:09 PM PDT by TXnMA (Iraq & Afghanistan: Bush's "Bug-Zappers"...)
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To: bmwcyle; All
A failed culture that produced a pair of embryo burials masks ONE of which *is* part of that Tut exhibit.

Having got to the LACMA exhibit last weekend, it was disappointing in that it's barely tut-related. There's some fantastic pieces on display but as the original post says, the overwhelming majority of the 128 artifacts are *not* Tut related. There are a couple chairs, the thingy that contained his liver, a pair of boats, a knife, a couple necklesses but the rest, including the one large sarcofogace mentioned in the vanity above are not Tut items. Still, there's fantastic workmanship on display and if you haven't had the opportunities bragged about up thread, it's worth a look!

I will say it wasn't worth the special trip made to L.A.

46 posted on 06/27/2005 4:48:11 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Remind Liberal Cowards Why America Freed Iraq: http://massgraves.info/)
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To: Jubal Harshaw

My wife has made it clear we WILL be going.

Don't forget, a few trinkets is still historical. For those of us who can't or won't go to Egypt (since I would like to stay alive and I don't want to lie and say I am Canadian), we'll touch what we can.


47 posted on 06/27/2005 4:51:08 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Durka Durka Durka. Muhammed Jihad Durka.)
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To: Jubal Harshaw
Just came back from the King Tut exhibit in LA. I saw the exhibit in '76, and have seen the Tut exhibit in the Egyptian Museum in Cairo, and have been to the Luxor Museum / Valley of Kings / Valley of Queens / Abu Simbel / etc.

It must be nice to have all that kind of exposure. I haven't so I thought more of the exhibit than you and your eager-to-please girlfriend. Still, I do agree it borders on fraudulent given that the actual number of Tut exhibit items are few. But the overall exhibit gives a good look at the workmanship of the ancient culture including a poke in the eye to western abortion-lovers in the form of one of the fetal death masks.

It wasn't worth the special trip north to L.A. but it wasn't a complete waste of time either. My understanding is none of the significant objects you complained about the exhibit lacking travel outside Egypt anymore. How long was your wait in the tent? We had 'anytime' tickets so we had barely a five minute wait.

48 posted on 06/27/2005 4:54:06 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Remind Liberal Cowards Why America Freed Iraq: http://massgraves.info/)
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To: AUsome Joy

We saw the Tut exhibit in Chicago with OUR still-young kids...I thought it was breathtaking, very very beautiful.

No hijacking experiences, though, we drove. ;-D


49 posted on 06/27/2005 4:58:33 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: AUsome Joy

Matter of fact, now that I think about it, we were able to see it the day before it opened to the public, something about my in-laws the museum members or something else nice like that. No crowds, and we could look as long as we wanted...


50 posted on 06/27/2005 5:00:00 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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