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Biblical Scroll Found in Desert
Guardian (U.K.) ^ | Saturday July 16, 2005

Posted on 07/16/2005 12:22:35 AM PDT by nickcarraway

An encounter with a Bedouin robber in a desert valley has led to what one Israeli archaeologist described as one of the most important biblical finds from the region in half a century.

Professor Chanan Eshel, an archaeologist from Bar Ilan University in Tel Aviv, said yesterday that the discovery of two fragments of nearly 2,000-year-old parchment scroll from the Dead Sea area gave hope to biblical and archaeological scholars, frustrated by a dearth of material unearthed in the region in recent years, that the Judean desert could yet yield further artefacts.

"No more scrolls have been found in the Judean desert since 1965. This encourages scholars to believe that if they bother to excavate, survey and climb they will still find things in the Judean desert. The common knowledge has been that there is nothing left to find there," Prof Eshel said. The two small pieces of brown animal skin, inscribed in Hebrew with verses from the Book of Leviticus, are said by Prof Eshel to be from "refugee" caves in Nachal Arugot, a canyon near the Dead Sea, where Jews hid from the Romans in the second century.

The scrolls are being tested by Israel's Antiquities Authority.

Prof Eshel said he was first shown the fragments last year in an abandoned police station near the Dead Sea. A Bedouin had been offered $20,000 (£11,000) on the black market and wanted an evaluation.


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To: nickcarraway
inscribed in Hebrew

They way the World insists this is "Palestinian" land I would think the inscription would have been in "Palestinian".

21 posted on 07/18/2005 7:34:48 AM PDT by Sabramerican (Sarcasm/Some here don't get it unless you spell it out)
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To: carumba
Baloney.

That's the short answer.

Dan
Biblical Christianity BLOG

22 posted on 07/18/2005 7:36:04 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Sacajaweau
Now that the price has been established...the little robber will show up with a few more. As a group, they should be worth even more than a single scroll.

Yep, that is the downside, alright.
Instead of delivering a full scroll that's still intact
they'll chop it up into little pieces so they can make more money selling a little at a time.

23 posted on 07/18/2005 7:36:05 AM PDT by Willie Green (Some people march to a different drummer - and some people polka)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Ping


24 posted on 07/18/2005 7:36:45 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: ppaul
It is difficult to communicate with a closed mind.
26 posted on 07/18/2005 7:39:56 AM PDT by carumba
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To: BibChr

Your baloney is another man's fruit from the tree of life.


27 posted on 07/18/2005 7:41:43 AM PDT by carumba
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To: the invisib1e hand

"somewhere in a cave in the desert some old beduoins are laughing their *sses off while their Mexican employees sit at rows of tables cranking out little ancient looking scrolls."

I think that is the same group that sold me a "cuban cigar" in Mexico....oh, well, it was only $5.


28 posted on 07/18/2005 7:43:56 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: carumba; BibChr
It is difficult to communicate with a closed mind.

That was not what the Apostle Paul told the Bereans.
Your modern day "apostles" will not hold up to the same scrutiny.
That is why you have to rely upon "feelings" and not facts.

29 posted on 07/18/2005 7:48:58 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: ppaul
Obviously we disagree. The need for Apostles today might be one of the points where our opinions diverge. So I say lets agree to disagree. I have a strong opinion about what I believe and the faith I defend. I also hold in high esteem the Apostles and Prophets of today.
30 posted on 07/18/2005 7:57:18 AM PDT by carumba
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To: mhking

Always loved him!

Thanks for the PING, mhking.

First rocks have already been cast on this thread!

Gonna get hot here, FAST, I'm betting!

:-)


31 posted on 07/18/2005 8:03:13 AM PDT by tiamat ("If some guy named Marduk calls, tell him I'm not home!")
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To: carumba; ppaul
Can't agree, since I'm a Christian and not a post-modernist. One man's poison is another man's poison.

In theory, Jesus Christ (and therefore, the Bible) might be true, or Mormonism might be true.

Both cannot be true.

I believe Jesus is true. That is necessarily exclusive of all competing, conflicting truth-claims. Ergo, Mormonism -- and particularly its slapped together KJV-ripoff dimestore fiction text -- cannot be true.

Dan
Biblical Christianity BLOG

32 posted on 07/18/2005 8:05:00 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: nickcarraway

Dead Sea scrolls were manuscripts that were buried by scribes because they contained errors. Great, I guess, if you are following the money some are willing to pay for these. Otherwise...useless.


33 posted on 07/18/2005 8:07:28 AM PDT by Free Baptist
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To: carumba

“The Book of Mormon is … consistent with ancient scriptures”

Can you show me the consistency on the nature of the Mormon gods and Scripture?

God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens. That is the great secret. If the vail was rent to-day, and the great God who holds this world in its orbit, and who upholds all worlds and all things by his power, was to make himself visible,--I say, if you were to see him to-day, you would see him like a man in form--like yourselves, in all the person, image, and very form as a man; for Adam was created in the very fashion, image, and likeness of God, and received instruction from, and walked, talked, and conversed with him, as one man talks and communes with another. – Joseph Smith from King Follett Discourse

For I know that God is not a partial God, neither a changeable being; but he is unchangeable from all eternity to all eternity. Moroni 8:18

Before the mountains were born, the earth and the world brought forth, from eternity to eternity you are God. Psalm 90:2


34 posted on 07/18/2005 8:08:14 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Choose life!)
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To: carumba

Any apostles today raising the dead? Any going down to the hospitals and healing cancer patients? Let's get with it.


35 posted on 07/18/2005 8:09:44 AM PDT by Free Baptist
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To: nickcarraway
"No more scrolls have been found in the Judean desert since 1965. This encourages scholars to believe that if they bother to excavate, survey and climb they will still find things in the Judean desert. The common knowledge has been that there is nothing left to find there," Prof Eshel said.

Check the Palis. They're probably using them for firewood, or worse.

36 posted on 07/18/2005 8:10:43 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Many Democrats are not weak Americans. But nearly all weak Americans are Democrats.)
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To: carumba; BibChr

"...and offers a witness that no other work contains, namely the promise in Moroni 10:4."

Do you think maybe that's why I don't believe it?

The cool thing about the New Testament is that it bears witness with the Old Testament.

Jesus said "the law and the prophets bear witness of me." What else was needed?


37 posted on 07/18/2005 8:11:03 AM PDT by Preachin' (Georgia finally saw the light in 2000.)
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To: BibChr
Your reply is confusing to me. I believe that Jesus Christ is the Savior and Redeemer of the world. He is the only begotten Son of God. He lived in the meridian of time, died on the cross, and was resurrected after the third day. He now reigns while he is in heaven and he will return and personally reign upon the earth. The Bible is the word of God. If we are not in agreement on these points I wonder how so?
38 posted on 07/18/2005 8:14:12 AM PDT by carumba
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To: Free Baptist
Let's get with it.

Miracles and answered prayers are happening in the modern days. Don't you agree?

39 posted on 07/18/2005 8:23:17 AM PDT by carumba
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To: BibChr
If every post you make contains a link to your blog, does that make it an ad? (Moderator!) Post modernist? What liberal college did you go to anyway?

Having seen a book of Mormon, and fairly close up, I can tell you that it says it is “another testament of Christ”. Now they do not mean it replaces the bible, nor do they mean anyone else named Christ, just that it is supposed to be a second witness of Jesus the Christ. (As in “in the mouths of Two or three witnesses…”)

As for your poison comment, it is a poor representation of Christ that belittles another man’s faith no matter what it is. As the Chinese would say to you, “All churches teach men to do good, Right?” The inference being that any church is better than none at all.

FYI.
I am a Member of The Church of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints.
I hope you grow and continue in the love of Christ until the day of his return
I also hope that you get over this need to try to belittle those whose faith you do not understand (which is clear from your posts, no I haven’t the time to go to your blog).
40 posted on 07/18/2005 8:25:26 AM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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