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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 13
Various News Outlets | 8/7/05

Posted on 08/07/2005 5:22:31 PM PDT by TexKat

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To: Parzival
You are just denying it because it does not fit your conclusions.

I am denying it because it does not fit the psychological profile of a young lady with high moral standards. My wife came to the same conclusion. Furthermore, we both long ago came to the conclusion Joran is a sociopath.
141 posted on 08/07/2005 10:32:25 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: RGVTx

Wow! That's pretty explosive. I was wondering how a language mix up could have happened. I thought they had said he confessed to get more info out of the Kalpoe boys!


142 posted on 08/07/2005 10:35:17 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: GarySpFc

I think you just have to narrow down which poster you're in all probability talking to...kind of sounds like the one who kept comparing her son to Joran. While putting down her other two (apparently) less attractive children.


143 posted on 08/07/2005 10:37:25 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: justche

ugh.....the mom with the "chick magnet" son.


144 posted on 08/07/2005 10:41:06 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: RGVTx

Thanks for the article, RGVTx!!

The following is from the article-->

""Remember the face of Aruba before you go spend your money there. Remember the cover-up, the lying, the official misconduct, all in order to protect one of their cherished elite. Remember how the Aruban system has spit in the face of Natalee Holloway by making certain justice will not be done in her behalf. Remember the obstruction, lying and foot draging delays that have been thrown in the face of Natalee's family who love her and search for her every day. Remember that Natalee Holloway is one of us and by spitting in her face as she crys for justice, they spit in the faces of all Americans. Remember Aruba and its deep, deep, corruption.""

I hope Americans do stop visiting places such as Aruba. I agree with everything the author said about it being a Cover-up from the beginning. What a hedious miscarriage of justice. Hopefully our MSM will stay on this story. Imagine if a police chief in this country threatened the victim's family the way they have done in Aruba. Outrageous, imo.


145 posted on 08/07/2005 10:41:27 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: justche
Someone posted today (on the previous thread) there are 90 on the island {of no crime}

Maybe its not so bad if you factor in how many are on vacation at any given time. /sarc
146 posted on 08/07/2005 10:42:30 PM PDT by hummingbird ("The world needs more Steel Magnolias like Beth Holloway.")
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To: Jrabbit
ugh.....the mom with the "chick magnet" son.

Nah, it couldn't be her. She was banned.
147 posted on 08/07/2005 10:44:00 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: RGVTx; justche
Yes, I read about Aruba attorneys today and there are many. I forget the number, but remember it worked out to about 1 attorney per 850 of the population with a total population of about 77,000.

Like justche posted...all this for an island with no crime. /sarc
148 posted on 08/07/2005 10:46:32 PM PDT by hummingbird ("The world needs more Steel Magnolias like Beth Holloway.")
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To: justche

Remember earlier when I said if we asked Jossy how Beth got those declarations we just might get the answer?
Well, I think we just got an answer.

I've noticed in the past week that the Holloways and Twittys have been saying many good things about Jossy and his family. They've gotten more help from the Mansur family than from anyone else on Aruba. Jossy's son has been working 12 hour days at the landfill. They've supplied machinery for the landfill search.

Jossy is growing on me. I'm beginning to think his heart is in the right place. Although, I suspect he has other motivations, as well.


149 posted on 08/07/2005 10:46:32 PM PDT by RGVTx
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To: Parzival

ever hear of roofies Parzival? that's a commonly heard statistic, too, and probably the lethal catalyst in this case, killing her when mixed with chemicals from her athsma inhaler proved deadly...and if a rape occured before that death you can't go to police and claim an accidental death when the rape evidence is on the corpse...anyway, she didn't do all three of her own free will, period. Wrong girl, Parzival...that's why we care.


150 posted on 08/07/2005 10:47:01 PM PDT by nuntukamen ("where ever you go, there you are"...Buckaroo Banzai)
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To: hummingbird

ROFLOL!!!

Good one!!


151 posted on 08/07/2005 10:48:30 PM PDT by RGVTx
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To: rolling_stone
Now that is a snappy idea...

I love the word "snappy" and agree it would be a snappy idea!
152 posted on 08/07/2005 10:49:52 PM PDT by hummingbird ("The world needs more Steel Magnolias like Beth Holloway.")
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To: RGVTx
Yeah, I noticed Jug was pretty wholehearted in his speaking highly of the Mansurs. I wonder though if it were me, if I wouldn't speak nicely of the devil himself, if it would bring my daughter home.

I do not think Jossy is not the kindly grandfatherly person he protrays, but I give him savvy and connections, and will for sure be a key to the solution.

153 posted on 08/07/2005 10:51:35 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: RGVTx

LOL! Breaking furniture...


154 posted on 08/07/2005 10:51:37 PM PDT by hummingbird ("The world needs more Steel Magnolias like Beth Holloway.")
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To: RGVTx

What exactly are these declarations? Are they witness/suspect statements? I missed the beginning of Beth's interview but heard her say that she considered it a bombshell that she would have them. I'm afraid the sloppiness is by design for the purpose of having them thrown out.


155 posted on 08/07/2005 10:56:15 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: nuntukamen

> ever hear of roofies Parzival? that's a commonly heard
> statistic, too, and probably the lethal catalyst in this
> case, killing her when mixed with chemicals from her athsma
> inhaler proved deadly.

This is pire speculation. No shred of evidence to support it.


156 posted on 08/07/2005 10:59:00 PM PDT by Parzival
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To: Dolphy

I took declarations to mean sworn statements. That's just my guess.


157 posted on 08/07/2005 11:00:03 PM PDT by RGVTx
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To: Irishgirl
I believe she was slipped something in a drink. Having been the victim of this twice myself ...I can tell you that I truly thought I was going to die both times.

Thank you for sharing such a gripping story. I'm so thankful you survived to tell us about it.

158 posted on 08/07/2005 11:02:00 PM PDT by b9
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To: RGVTx

Thanks.


159 posted on 08/07/2005 11:02:20 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: Parzival

You're not making any friends here, dear.
So why are you here?


160 posted on 08/07/2005 11:05:33 PM PDT by b9
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