Posted on 08/11/2005 6:13:03 AM PDT by YaYa123
Tomorrow's New York Times reports that members of the 9/11 Commission reversed themselves and now acknowledge being briefed on the Army's data mining project, Able Danger, prior to the publication of their report to the American people. After over 24 hours of denying that anyone had told the Commission about the secret project, their spokesman now says that commission officials met with a uniformed officer who told them about the identification of Mohammed Atta and three other 9/11 hijackers in 2000, over a year prior to the attacks:
(Excerpt) Read more at captainsquartersblog.com ...
1 year prior to the 9/11 WTC/Pentagon attacks, Mohamed Atta's Saudi Arabian roommate crashed his Piper Cherokee private aircraft into a Piper Aztec commercial flight in Florida. The date: 9/11/2000.Here's the government report from that crash
BINGO
The other one, besides Lehman, was former Congressman Tim Roemer, D of Indiana.
BTTT
I should have read the entire post from the linked blogsite before I made my comment about the staffers, my apologies. The commission members themselves have to be held accountable. I am waiting to hear a comment from Kean. I've always thought him a straight shooter, if this is not the case, I woill be even angrier. Otherwise , this was nothing more than an attempted lynching of the current administration. And to think of the way Sec. Rice was grilled. What say ye, Mr. Clarke????? This is getting me madder by the minute.
KNEW!!!?
The officials said that the information had not been included in the report because aspects of the officer's account had sounded inconsistent with what the commission KNEW about that Qaeda member, Mohammed Atta, the plot's leader...
KNEW!!?? They werent supposed to KNOW ANYTHING... they were commissioned to FIND OUT!!
Note to the MSM: Nice try...
Thanks -- I could not remember the other name -- I got the feeling they had been kept out of the loop by others on the Commission.
That's what they said had happened on a newsbreak I heard on the radio. I vaguely remembered something about it.
Most won't. I'm betting Brit Hume will, but few others measure up to his journalistic integrity.
And at the risk of our national security!
I'm dumbfounded. ...and mad as hell.
Our newsbreak this morning said only staffers and certain Commission members -- a lot were left in the dark if the report was right this morning. The staffers were the ones that vetted this whole deal.
Lehman and Rohmer are both livid they didn't know so it did not get vetted to the whole Commission. I would love to know which members did get this info and if that is what Burger was stealing.
Read somewhere that they were going to search which records Berger accessed in the archives.
I have many friends in various archives. Either I have someone attending me watchfully or I'm videotaped from several cameras. The records I access are ALWAYS logged.
Who was the archivist who let Berger have a little more freedom than allowable? And why did Berger insist on them calling Clinton's lawyer FIRST when he got caught?
The memo grew out of the Justice Department's prosecution of the 1993 terrorist attack on the World Trade Center -- the act that apparently gave Osama bin Laden the idea to try again in 2001.
"During the course of those investigations," wrote Gorelick in 1995, "significant counterintelligence information has been developed related to the activities and plans of agents of foreign powers operating in this country and overseas, including previously unknown connections between separate terrorist groups." But Gorelick wanted to make sure that the left hand didn't know what the right was doing. "(W)e believe that it is prudent to establish a set of instructions that will clearly separate the counterintelligence investigation from the more limited, but continued, criminal investigations. These procedures, which go beyond what is legally required, will prevent any risk of creating an unwarranted appearance that FISA (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act) is being used to avoid procedural safeguards which would apply in a criminal investigation."
The problem, of course, is that the inability to share information is precisely what hampered federal agents in tracking down the 9-11 hijackers. As Attorney General Ashcroft testified, this artificial wall impeded the investigation into Zacarias Moussaoui, the so-called 20th hijacker, who was arrested prior to the 9-11 attack, as well as Khalid al-Midhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi, both of whom were identified by the CIA as suspected terrorists possibly in the United States prior to their participation in those terrible attacks. "Because of the wall, FBI Headquarters refused to allow criminal investigators who knew the most about the most recent al Qaeda attack to join in the hunt for the suspected terrorists," Ashcroft told the commission.
More on Gorelick:
On Aug. 22, 1996, just a few days before the start of the Democratic National Convention, Ms. Gorelick oversaw a critical Justice Department meeting with the FBI. Immediately after this meeting, as it happened, all serious inquiry into the fate of TWA 800 came to an end.
On the next day, for instance, the FAA began to inquire whether any dog-training exercises had ever taken place on the plane that would become TWA 800. On the same day, as CNN reported, the FBI now claimed publicly for the first time that the explosive residue found along the right wing "could have been brought on the plane by a passenger and was not part of a bomb." Likewise, after the meeting, the FBI would do no more eyewitness interviews, at least not for the next two months. The Bureau only did a handful after that – and all of those for the wrong reasons.
"Evidence strongly suggests it was Gorelick – not the ineffectual Freeh – who not only misdirected the FBI's investigation into Oklahoma City, but also the FBI investigation into TWA Flight 800. The parallels between the two cases are shocking. And in each case, the Clinton administration constrained the FBI for the same reason: to advance the re-election chances of its standard bearer. "
Although [Jayna]Davis does not document Gorelick's role in Oklahoma City, media accounts routinely describe her as the director of the Oklahoma City task force, the so-called "field commander." As Davis has told me, someone in Washington called the FBI in Oklahoma City and issued a two-word directive on its investigation into Islamic terrorism: "Kill it."
Has anyone looked through the staff reports to see if Able Danger even made it into those reports?
A lot of stuff in the staff reports never made it into the final report. For example, although there was mention of Salmon Pak in a December 2003 staff report, I don't think Salmon Pak was ever mentioned in the final report.
And I want to see Congressional hearings with under oath testimony from the staff and Commission as to why the findings of Able Danger wasn't explored.
Some of the members of that Commission are hacks, but some aren't. Lehman, Kean, and even Hamilton are not the kind of people who would have whitewashed this. What will be interesting is to find out which staffers were briefed, and why they did not pass that information on to all the members of the Commission.
I would not be shocked to learn that they may have passed the information on to one or two of the hacks on the Commission, who then concealed it from the rest.
Wow. Thanks for this repost of that message. I hadn't heard of this before now.
From what I heard he was being watched and why he got caught with things in his socks, etc. This is going to get more interesting as the days go by and I see Ms. Clinton's Presidential hopes going down the drain more and more.
Wondered why Morris had the deal yesterday about McAuliffe saying that Hillary would drop out of the Senate race to concentrate on the 2008 race. Maybe they knew this was coming?
Someone needs to make up a sign to follow her around with "When Did You and Your CO-President know about Atta?"
Except I'm almost positive that Atta's timeline which was given out only a few days after 9-11 included 2 entries into the US in 2000.
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