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Iranian Alert - August 20, 2005 - The Free World's Guess about Iran
Regime Change Iran ^ | 8.20.2005 | DoctorZin

Posted on 08/21/2005 10:03:18 AM PDT by DoctorZIn

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The Free World's Guess

NY Sun, Eli Lake :

"Iran is not in a revolutionary or even a pre-revolutionary state." This quote is from an August 1978 CIA assessment of a government five months away from being toppled by the first modern Islamic revolution.

The phrase, however, could easily belong to many of the Bush administration's top analysts ...

Brave leaders of Iran's democracy movement, men such as Akbar Ganji, Ayatollah Hussein Ali Montazeri, and Ahmad Batebi, should not be discouraged by the free world's recent guesswork. Read More

A Daily Briefing of Major News Stories on Iran:



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1 posted on 08/21/2005 10:03:34 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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2 posted on 08/21/2005 10:06:06 AM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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To: DoctorZIn

The problem I see with a revolution from within Iran is that, in 1979, the Shah's troops refused to open fire on the people. This time, the Mullahs' Revolutionary Guards (hundreds of thousands of them) would not hestitate to mow down any freedom-seeking revolutionaries. These fanatics are diehard and will fight to the death to maintain Islam's grip on Iran.

I believe it would take a decade, at the very least, to have a revolution from within Iran.

In that time, the Mullahs will have atomic weapons.


3 posted on 08/21/2005 10:07:12 AM PDT by tomahawk (Proud to be an enemy of Islam (check out www.prophetofdoom.net))
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To: tomahawk
Late in 1978 the Centurion Tanks did roll and there were firefights nightly between the Shah's troops and the revolutionaries. There were blackouts every night and the skies would light up with tank fire and tire burnings.
4 posted on 08/21/2005 10:11:33 AM PDT by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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To: NY Attitude

but the Shah's army didn't intentionally kill their own people due to the direct order from the Shah, himself, to prevent bloodshed.


5 posted on 08/21/2005 10:19:09 AM PDT by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: NY Attitude

The revolutionaries in 1979 had arms, and defectors from the army.

Today's revolutionaries don't have either, as best I can tell.


6 posted on 08/21/2005 10:22:15 AM PDT by tomahawk (Proud to be an enemy of Islam (check out www.prophetofdoom.net))
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To: DoctorZIn

What I do know about the present Iranian regime is that it represents a very real and potentially dangerous totalitarianism. That is evident in the proclamations of its new President.


7 posted on 08/21/2005 10:24:21 AM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: F14 Pilot

Yes, I remember also the recordings of machineguns being fired and played through large speakers mounted on building rooftops.


8 posted on 08/21/2005 10:24:30 AM PDT by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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To: tomahawk

I believe that you are correct.


9 posted on 08/21/2005 10:25:50 AM PDT by NY Attitude (You are responsible for your safety until the arrival of Law Enforcement Officers!)
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To: tomahawk

Support us and we are capable of finishing the job, ourselves.


10 posted on 08/21/2005 10:26:01 AM PDT by Khashayar (No Banana Allowed!)
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To: NY Attitude

And sheep's blood instead of human blood?


11 posted on 08/21/2005 10:29:42 AM PDT by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: Khashayar

I do support you and hope we give more a lot more help than we have.


12 posted on 08/21/2005 11:08:26 AM PDT by tomahawk (Proud to be an enemy of Islam (check out www.prophetofdoom.net))
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To: tomahawk
Your observation is a good one.

I suggest that you might want to read ''From Dictatorship to Democracy," Sharp's booklet lays out a theory of power that explains the mechanisms of dictatorship and their weaknesses.

http://www.aeinstein.org/organizations/org/FDTD-2.pdf

His ideas were used in the fall of the Eastern European countries and more recently in Romania, Georgia, the Ukraine, Lebanon and is now being studied in Iran.

Dictatorships have their own inherent weaknesses that can be exploited by an informed opposition movement.

For instance, the more aggressive a regime become, the more internal strains created both within and outside of the regime. The Iranian regime understands this.
13 posted on 08/21/2005 11:59:58 AM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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To: DoctorZIn

Thanks for that link.


14 posted on 08/21/2005 12:09:49 PM PDT by tomahawk (Proud to be an enemy of Islam (check out www.prophetofdoom.net))
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To: DoctorZIn
"His ideas were used in the fall of the Eastern European countries and more recently in Romania, Georgia, the Ukraine, Lebanon and is now being studied in Iran."

Not everyone can open a PDF file in Iran...

15 posted on 08/21/2005 2:37:52 PM PDT by humint (Define the future... but only if you're prepared for war with the soldiers of the past and present!)
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To: tomahawk

http://efsha.no-ip.com/indexen.htm


16 posted on 08/21/2005 5:50:26 PM PDT by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: F14 Pilot
F14 – What do you think about these numbers?

Stock Markets--the engine of western economic growth; where small start-ups to global corporate powerhouses raise public capital are suddenly abuzz amongst many of the OIC (Organization of Islamic Conference) member countries… …Total Market capitalization of OIC member country markets at the end of 2004 stood at US $1,151 billion. This is based on combined market capitalization of the 27 active equity markets from the 57 OIC member countries. This total OIC market capitalization is comparable to that of the German Deutche Bourse's domestic market capitalization, which at the end of 2004 stood at US $1,195 billion. The world's largest stock market, the NYSE's domestic market capitalization was at US $ 12,708 billion.

17 posted on 08/21/2005 9:56:42 PM PDT by humint (Define the future... but only if you're prepared for war with the soldiers of the past and present!)
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To: DoctorZIn
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18 posted on 08/21/2005 10:15:53 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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To: tomahawk

DO womens have right????
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19 posted on 10/19/2007 10:56:46 AM PDT by rockstart
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