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Islamic regime to submerge Iran's historical root (Persepolis & Pasargade)
SMCCDI ^ | Aug 21, 2005

Posted on 08/22/2005 1:02:15 PM PDT by F14 Pilot

The Islamic regime is to submerge part of Iran's past in a shameful historical cleansing, in order to avoid facing more nationalistic problems with future generations. The construction of a very controversial dam project is near completion and soon, the tomb of "Cyrus the Great" and "Persepolis" would be submerged under water.

Cyrus the Great (580-529 BC) (known as Kourosh in Persian; Kouros in Greek; Kores in Hebrew) was the first Achaemenian Emperor and founder of Iran, who issued a decree on his aims and policies, later hailed as his charter of the rights of nations. Inscribed on a clay cylinder, this is known to be the first declaration of Human Rights, and is now kept at the British Museum. A replica of this is also at the United Nations in New York. Part of his charter states: "I am Cyrus. King of the world. When I entered Babylon... I did not allow anyone to terrorize the land... I kept in view the needs of people and all its sanctuaries to promote their well-being... I put an end to their misfortune. The Great God has delivered all the lands into my hand; the lands that I have made to dwell in a peaceful habitation.... . .When my soldiers in great numbers peacefully entered Babylon... I did not allow anyone to terrorize the people... I kept in view the needs of people and all its sanctuaries to promote their well-being... Freed all the slaves... I put an end to their misfortune and slavery (referring to the Jews and other religious minorities). The Great God has delivered all the lands into my hand; the lands that I have made to dwell in a peaceful habitation... " http://www.livius.org/ct-cz/cyrus_I/babylon05.html#Cyrus

The founder of Iran was upright, a great leader of men, generous and benevolent. He's qualified by many as an enlightened liberator, not a heroic conqueror, because of his tolerance and respect for the customs and religions of every region of his great empire. Some might argue that Cyrus was the founder of "multiculturalism. "The Hellenes, whom he conquered regarded him as 'Law-giver' and the Jews as 'the anointed of the Lord'. He freed them from slavery, in Babylonia and helped them to re-build the Temple of David in Jerusalem.

He established a type of federal government for his vast Empire and appointed a governor (satrapi) to represent him in each province. However the administration, legislation, and cultural activities of each province was the responsibility of the Satraps. According to the Greek historian, Xenophon, Cyrus is also reputed to have devised the first postal system. (Achaemenide achievements).

It's believed that the Islamic regime's decision to destroy Cyrus' tomb is due to clerics' fear of what he did represent and the increase of nationalistic sentiments among Iranians. These fears have been boosted as more Iranians are turning from Islam and especially following the news on the future release of a British-US movie on the life of Cyrus the Great. The un-Iranian Islamic regime and its propaganda machine have already labeled the movie as a US-Zionist conspiracy intending to undermine Islam. The independent 80 million dollars budget movie is to be made outside Iran. http://www.chahayagroup.com/

The dogmatic Islamist clerics are considering as pagan anything related to Iran of before the Islamic invasion of 14 centuries ago and a direct threat to their backwarded and barbarian ideology. The Islamists have shown, at several occasions,, their animosity about ancient Iran and are considering it as something 'dirty' while ancient Iran was monotheist and was following Zoroaster guidances of "Good Thought, Good Deed, Good Speak". No slavery was existing in Iran of that time, while Arab conquerors were killing or taking as slave all those who were not accepting the Islamic religion. Many theologists believe that the Abrahamic religions are all inspired from Zoroastrianism.

It's to note that the Islamic republic regime is usurping Iran's chair at the UN and it's a member of UNESCO.


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Persepolis

Pasargade

The Gate of Nations, Persepolis

Persepolis

Pasargad, tomb of Cyrus the great

1 posted on 08/22/2005 1:02:17 PM PDT by F14 Pilot
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To: McGavin999; freedom44; nuconvert; sionnsar; AdmSmith; parisa; onyx; Pro-Bush; Valin; ...

2 posted on 08/22/2005 1:04:02 PM PDT by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: F14 Pilot

Reminds me of the Taliban blowing up those buddas right before 9/11


3 posted on 08/22/2005 1:04:57 PM PDT by SittinYonder (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: F14 Pilot

More cultural genocide from an Islamic Regime.


4 posted on 08/22/2005 1:05:02 PM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: F14 Pilot

Oh, this is awful.


5 posted on 08/22/2005 1:05:38 PM PDT by Alexander Rubin (Octavius - You make my heart glad building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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To: SittinYonder

YES!


6 posted on 08/22/2005 1:05:41 PM PDT by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: F14 Pilot

OH! This is UNBELIEVABLE!!


7 posted on 08/22/2005 1:07:18 PM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: F14 Pilot

This is awful; among the things I have wanted to see...


8 posted on 08/22/2005 1:07:37 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || (To Libs:) You are failing to celebrate MY diversity || Iran Azadi)
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To: Semper Paratus
BOMB THE MULLAHS NOW!

KILL THE MULLAHS NOW!

9 posted on 08/22/2005 1:10:08 PM PDT by Khashayar (No Banana Allowed!)
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To: SittinYonder

"It's believed that the Islamic regime's decision to destroy Cyrus' tomb "

These people are below pigs, real barbarians and savages.

This is the face of the kind of lunacy we are confronting - or NOT confronting.

I'd gladly put a bomb right in the middle of Tehran to stop this kind of desecration -and so - I imagine, would a good many Iranians.

Cyrus the Great was a Zoroastrian - the first monotheistic religion.

Mohammad's ancestors were chasing camles around the Arabian desert when Cyrus was building palaces, temples and monuments.


10 posted on 08/22/2005 1:10:30 PM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: ZULU
Mohammad's ancestors were chasing camles around the Arabian desert when Cyrus was building palaces, temples and monuments.

I like this!

Thanks for saying it!

11 posted on 08/22/2005 1:12:18 PM PDT by Khashayar (No Banana Allowed!)
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To: F14 Pilot
Can we blockade them now?
12 posted on 08/22/2005 1:13:46 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("As a Muslim of course I am a terrorist"--Sheikh Omar Brooks, quoted in the London Times 8/7/05)
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To: denydenydeny

The best thing is to attack mullahs' strongholds RIGHT now!


13 posted on 08/22/2005 1:14:52 PM PDT by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: F14 Pilot
the tomb of "Cyrus the Great" and "Persepolis" would be submerged under water.

As opposed to "submerged" over water?

Today is officially "National Punctuation Day". Close enough to make a remark about gratuitous repetetive redundancy.

14 posted on 08/22/2005 1:17:55 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: Alexander Rubin
Oh, this is awful.

No.

This is an opportunity for American billionaires to do something useful with their spare change.

Buy it all up, block by block, and ship it all to Arizona to keep company with the London Bridge.  Surely, we've got some extra space in need of a good tourist trap.

15 posted on 08/22/2005 1:19:07 PM PDT by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: sionnsar

Yup...these sites are on my To-see-before-I-die list. The whole history of the Persian Empire is very impressive. I am baffled why the Persians embraced an imported religion and were so willing to discard their own heritage. Though, I suppose Europeans forsake their heritage for an imported religion also.


16 posted on 08/22/2005 1:19:31 PM PDT by Lekker 1 ("Who the hell wants to hear actors talk?"- Harry M. Warner, Warner Bros., 1927)
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To: SittinYonder

Its like Planet of the Apes over there!


17 posted on 08/22/2005 1:20:33 PM PDT by waverna
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To: Publius6961
As opposed to "submerged" over water?

No...as opposed to submerged under oil.

18 posted on 08/22/2005 1:21:35 PM PDT by Lekker 1 ("Who the hell wants to hear actors talk?"- Harry M. Warner, Warner Bros., 1927)
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To: Racehorse

That sounds like a good idea!

At least, they will be reserved for future generations of mankind


19 posted on 08/22/2005 1:21:47 PM PDT by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: SittinYonder
Reminds me of the Taliban blowing up those buddas right before 9/11

This might turn out quite differently.
Unless the sandmaggots start blowing up each persian national treasure, they might discover that that dam dam may be harder to build and take much longer than planned; hundreds of years, even.

20 posted on 08/22/2005 1:22:31 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: F14 Pilot

Just the other day saudi arabia decided to bulldoze the supposed home of mad-mo for new high rises. I see it as destroying history to preserve the great lie called islam.


21 posted on 08/22/2005 1:22:55 PM PDT by BayouCoyote (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: Publius6961; Cronos

http://www.chahayagroup.com/


22 posted on 08/22/2005 1:26:17 PM PDT by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: ZULU

Cyrus the Great was a Zoroastrian - the first monotheistic religion.

Mohammad's ancestors were chasing camels around the Arabian desert when Cyrus was building palaces, temples and monuments.

You're right, and they were chasing camels when Cyrus was building the foundations of modern civilization...

23 posted on 08/22/2005 1:26:27 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: Khashayar

I love your homepage.

Its awesome!!!


24 posted on 08/22/2005 1:27:52 PM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: ZULU

I wish I could do more for my country!


25 posted on 08/22/2005 1:34:21 PM PDT by Khashayar (No Banana Allowed!)
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To: F14 Pilot

Gosh, I can remember when that stairway was uncovered!
Imam swine! Persians, do not allow this desecration of your
heritage !!!


26 posted on 08/22/2005 1:35:55 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: ZULU

Can you see this one?

27 posted on 08/22/2005 1:38:39 PM PDT by Khashayar (No Banana Allowed!)
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To: F14 Pilot

I can't believe these priceless artifacts will just be swept away...!


28 posted on 08/22/2005 1:42:29 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: F14 Pilot

The Taliban is taking hold in Iran now; expect OBL to appear as a government official there in the near future...


29 posted on 08/22/2005 1:44:18 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: F14 Pilot
Afghanstan, after the Taliban effort at erasing history.


30 posted on 08/22/2005 1:46:27 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: GOPJ

Don't forget Nimrod, Noah's great grandson.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/nimrod_%28King%29

Things went downhill when his son took over: Poindexter I.
All the other kings made fun of his pocket protector.


31 posted on 08/22/2005 1:48:04 PM PDT by tumblindice
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To: F14 Pilot

A genuine shame. I had hoped to see Persepolis once before I die.


32 posted on 08/22/2005 1:51:36 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Khashayar

No.

I'll cehck it out on my home computer.

That shot of Tehran with the snow-covered mountains in the background was unbelievably beautiful.

It must be a gorgeous country.


33 posted on 08/22/2005 1:51:39 PM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: F14 Pilot

How will this act make the people of Iran feel?

Willit cause anger or just people shrugging their shoulders?


34 posted on 08/22/2005 2:04:51 PM PDT by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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To: SittinYonder

You gotta be kidding me! (not you, them) This is far worse than the Buddhas in Afghanistan. Cyrus positively touched the cultures of most of the current world: everybody in that region, plus Christians and Jews worldwide. Of course they'd want to destroy the memory of the father of human rights.

This is despicable.

Why do the important landmarks have to belong on the lands occupied by idiots?


35 posted on 08/22/2005 2:15:24 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: ZULU
Mohammad's ancestors were chasing camles around the Arabian desert when Cyrus was building palaces, temples and monuments.

And had Cyrus conquered them, he would have allowed them to practice their religion in peace. Actually, he probably did since he went into Arabia a bit.

36 posted on 08/22/2005 2:24:48 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: RaceBannon
How will this act make the people of Iran feel?

I'm calling my uncle to find out.

37 posted on 08/22/2005 2:27:31 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: F14 Pilot
the Greek historian, Xenophon

Anybody intending to do something militarily in the former Persia should read Xenophon's Persian Expedition. Alexander did.

38 posted on 08/22/2005 2:29:06 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and open the Land Office)
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To: Publius6961

"they might discover that that dam dam may be harder to build and take much longer than planned; hundreds of years, even."

"The construction of a very controversial dam project is near completion "


39 posted on 08/22/2005 2:32:27 PM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: Racehorse
Buy it all up, block by block, and ship it all to Arizona to keep company with the London Bridge. Surely, we've got some extra space in need of a good tourist trap.

That's where the Ka'aba should end up, too...

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Clark Griswold: "Hey, hey, easy kids. Everybody in the car; we leave in two minutes... or perhaps you don't want to see the moon-god rock, or the second largest ball of twine on the face of the earth, which is only four short hours away?"

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Ellen Griswold: "Clark, let's just skip the "holy relic of Islam" and the house of mud. I think Dodge City was enough for one day. Besides, Catherine and Eddie are expecting us."

Cue Holiday Road by Lindsey Buckingham.

40 posted on 08/22/2005 2:34:05 PM PDT by Charles Martel
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To: antiRepublicrat

This is not the kind of thing that they tell the people.
I don't know where your uncle lives, but if he doesn't live in the immediate vicinity of Persepolis, he may not know about it.


41 posted on 08/22/2005 2:34:44 PM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: nuconvert
I don't know where your uncle lives

He's in the US, but has lots of family over there.

42 posted on 08/22/2005 2:47:11 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: F14 Pilot

The Iranian mullahs do not deserve their lofty perches of power, and the deliberate destruction of these priceless treasures should be enough in and of itself for the Iranian people to finally rise up and dispatch the mullahs straight to hell courtesy of the end of a rope.


43 posted on 08/22/2005 2:48:58 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Proud member of the 21st century Christian Crusaders)
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To: F14 Pilot

Well I hope we do in the Mullahs before they can commit this unspeakable crime against Persian culture and humanity. I believe generally Iranians feel they have a superior culture to the Arabs'. If this is so, why the appeal of Islam, which replaces indigenous for Arabian historical consciousness?


44 posted on 08/22/2005 2:53:26 PM PDT by Lessingham
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To: Republicanprofessor

This would be a tragic loss.
Would you ping your art pinglist


45 posted on 08/22/2005 2:56:14 PM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: RaceBannon

Anger!


46 posted on 08/22/2005 3:06:31 PM PDT by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: nuconvert
Do you realize how long it takes to create the lake behind a dam? Could be a decade.
Lots of things can happen in 10 years.
47 posted on 08/22/2005 3:06:44 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: Lekker 1
No...as opposed to submerged under oil.

I'm thinking their more submerged over oil.

48 posted on 08/22/2005 3:07:29 PM PDT by Darkshadow (There was a thing called Heaven; but all the same they used to drink enormous quantities of alcohol.)
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To: ZULU

http://roozonline.com/07cartoons/009601.shtml

Check that cartoon here!


49 posted on 08/22/2005 3:07:40 PM PDT by Khashayar (No Banana Allowed!)
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To: Fitzcarraldo

And the left want President Bush to deal with these idiots?


50 posted on 08/22/2005 3:08:34 PM PDT by Khashayar (No Banana Allowed!)
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