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Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VIII
NOAA - NHC ^ | 29 August 2005 | NOAA - NHC

Posted on 08/29/2005 2:47:45 AM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: Steve_Seattle

IF the storm had kept up its max winds AND hit land to the west of where it did, none of these predictions were too far out of order.

Looking at Camille pics, and imagining that level of destruction in a MUCH more densely constructed area, not to mention one under sea level, and it isn't hard to see where they extrapolated that from.


2,361 posted on 08/29/2005 8:45:28 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: mariabush
"We can fiend for ourselves for a few hours".

But only till sunrise.

Leni

2,362 posted on 08/29/2005 8:45:49 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: shield

Not sure who's choice it was... but we sure will miss him! He will continue doing his "Forbes on Fox," as well as specials... that's all I really know at this time.


2,363 posted on 08/29/2005 8:46:15 AM PDT by angelwings49 (Where are we going, and why am I in this handbasket??)
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To: lifacs

I gave up trying to get WDSU any more...too tired to fight it...


2,364 posted on 08/29/2005 8:46:19 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: 1Old Pro

Your orignal statement that you saw a bunch of cajun and Carville types going into the SuperDome was ignorant. I pointed that out. You won't save face by pointing out the obvious to me. I'm intimately familiar with the ethnic makeup of New Orleans, so I promise you, you have nothing to teach me in that regard.


2,365 posted on 08/29/2005 8:46:24 AM PDT by jayef
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To: Smogger

I saw that as well. Very scary. It sounds like the water will keep rising.


2,366 posted on 08/29/2005 8:46:32 AM PDT by nicholle
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To: NautiNurse
Another "Vortex" report:

URNT12 KNHC 291527
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE
A. 29/15:16:50Z
B. 30 deg 19 min N
  089 deg 38 min W
C. 700 mb 2497 m
D. NA  kt
E. NA  deg     nm
F. 178 deg 127 kt
G.  90 deg 031 nm
H. EXTRAP  932 mb
I.  11 C/ 3049 m
J.  17 C/ 3049 m
K.  17 C/ NA
L. OPEN SW
M. C33
N. 12345/ 7
O. 0.02 / 1  nm
P. AF300 2212A KATRINA      OB 28
MAX FL WIND 127 KT E QUAD 15:06:20 Z
SLP EXTRAP FROM 700 MB
FIX MADE OVERLAND
EYE RAGGED

2,367 posted on 08/29/2005 8:46:37 AM PDT by snowsislander
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To: jveritas

It's probably been said before, but the meteorologists are in a dam*ned if the do, and a dam*ned if they don't, aren't they? Suppose the eye went west of NO, hammered the city, and they had not evacuated. Then we'd be bit*hing because we didn't take it seriously. If my house got hit and flattened, I'd appreciate having been given a heads up to move out earlier.

Where I agree with you is that the danger with what may be "hype" is that it lessens the chance that people will evacuate in the future.


2,368 posted on 08/29/2005 8:46:41 AM PDT by bwteim (Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: 1Old Pro

I was also thinking of the elderly - no family, unable/can't drive - heartbreaking.


2,369 posted on 08/29/2005 8:46:41 AM PDT by FeliciaCat (I like my money where I can see it...hanging in my closet.)
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To: dirtboy

Has the back side of the eye hit the N.O. area yet? I'm cubicle-bound, with no access to streaming anything as my office has it blocked.

Another thing I was wondering about - did the traffic jams on I-10 and the other roads clear or where there people still stuck on them when this thing hit?

LQ


2,370 posted on 08/29/2005 8:46:46 AM PDT by LizardQueen (The world is not out to get you, except in the sense that the world is out to get everyone.)
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To: Lazamataz
I am never posting to Free Republic ever again so long as I live.

What about after that? :-)

2,371 posted on 08/29/2005 8:46:51 AM PDT by knittnmom (...surrounded by reality)
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To: Chasaway

I meant WDSU. Maybe it was taped earlier.


2,372 posted on 08/29/2005 8:46:54 AM PDT by lifacs
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To: jeffers
"Can anyone confirm a hole at dead center, or is it just near the middle?"

Earlier they showed one hole in the center about seven feet and two other holes probably from sheading skin of the dome.

That is not a bad thing because that would release some of the pressure in the dome and take some stress from the super structure.

2,373 posted on 08/29/2005 8:47:29 AM PDT by AGreatPer
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To: Lazamataz

Laz have you been bad go to your room and no cinnamon toast for you


2,374 posted on 08/29/2005 8:47:39 AM PDT by al baby (Father of the beeber)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Try the ABC link at the beginning of the thread.

Someone on the phone reporting that their relatives in east NO by the breach are trapped in their attic and/or on their roof. Emergency services can't go out to help. Lady on the phone is pleading for help for these people.


2,375 posted on 08/29/2005 8:47:46 AM PDT by Abigail Adams
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To: Lazamataz

Come on' lighten up .... everybody has been on edge...don't be offended...walk away take 10 deep breathes...then come back and post at FR...you're loved here. ;o)


2,376 posted on 08/29/2005 8:47:46 AM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: Lazamataz

Liar, Liar pants on fire.....


2,377 posted on 08/29/2005 8:48:04 AM PDT by FeliciaCat (I like my money where I can see it...hanging in my closet.)
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To: nicholle
According to Weather Channel reports from these same reporters yesterday, this location (Armed Forces Retirement Home in Gulfport, MS) is a half-mile from the beach.

They had the mgr. of this facility brag yesterday that everything would be business as usual here (meals would be served on schedule) and that the windows were tested to withstand 160-180 mph winds...though he conceded they leaked @ 180 mph.

It seems something else must be leaking @ 145 mph winds, then, eh?

2,378 posted on 08/29/2005 8:48:10 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Gondring
"Without the river containing silt, it could cut deeper into the channel and carry that load out into the Gulf...making the river lower. However, with the silt load deposited, the elevation of the river increases as the city subsides.

Uh, the river DOES "...carry that load out into the Gulf"--why do you think the isthmus got built in the first place. Add to that the fact that they dredge the river regularly to KEEP the channel open deep enough for ocean-going vessels, so I still don't see silt deposition being of any signficant consequence.

The problem is that with the isthmus "channelized" south as far as it is, the silt is deposited over the "Gulf abysss" (or whatever the name is for the demarcation between the continental shelf and "deep water", and so is lost to any possibility of "marsh-building".

2,379 posted on 08/29/2005 8:48:20 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: shield

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2,380 posted on 08/29/2005 8:48:38 AM PDT by Broker (Semper Fi)
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