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Analyzing the Zogby poll released on September 8 2005 (Zogby lying about his own poll results)
September/9/05 | jveritas

Posted on 09/09/2005 7:05:09 AM PDT by jveritas

The now infamous pollster John Zogby came out yesterday, Sep/8/05 with a poll where he thinks that President Bush is doing very bad by using a very negative spin of the poll results and baltant lies so it will be viewed as a bad thing for President Bush. Link: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1480588/posts?page=113,13

Let us take these two tables from the Zogby poll and analyze:

From Zogby:

President Bush’s Job Approval Hits All-Time Low Positive Excellent Good Negative Fair Poor

9-07-05 41 (Positive) 15 (Excellent) 26 (Good) 59 (Negative) 22 (FAIR) 37 (Bad)

7-30-05 45 19 26 55 27 28

6-22-05 44 15 29 56 22 34

5-25-05 46 18 28 53 23 30

4-18-05 46 19 27 53 23 30

2-25-05 47 21 26 53 22 31

2-14-05 50 24 26 50 18 32

Voters Disapprove Handling of All But War on Terror President’s

Handling of Issue Positive Excellent Good Negative Fair Poor Not sure

War on Terrorism 52 (Positive) 25 (Excellent) 27 (Good) 47 (Negative) 18 (FAIR) 29 (Bad) 1 (Not sure)

Taxes 40 16 24 59 25 34 1

War in Iraq 40 14 26 59 14 45 1

Foreign Policy 39 13 26 59 25 34 2

Jobs and the economy 38 12 26 61 25 36 1

Hurricane Katrina 36 12 24 60 17 43 4

Environment 36 8 28 60 20 40 4 Education 39 11 28 59 27 32 2

Social Security and Medicare 31 8 23 67 28 39 2

Healthcare 30 7 23 67 27 40 3

Gas Prices 21 7 14 73 26 47 6

You notice how Zogby is considering “FAIR” as negative attribute so he can push down President Bush number. "FAIR" is not negative. President Bush will be doing very well in all categories since "FAIR" lean more positive and definitely it is not negative. Even if we consider as many as half of the people who say “FAIR” as a negative, President Bush will still be doing GOOD in almost all the categories.

Zogby is the most biased pollster in history and he is the most overrated one. He has been wrong so many times that he lost his credibility, his 2004 extremely biased polling and very wrong predictions killed his reputation. This poll is not interactive through the internet as Zogby usually conducts his polls where he can really make unbelievable bias in his polling. This one was conducted via the phone and despite incredible bias effort from Zogby for this poll to come against President Bush he failed miserably to do so. So he is now spinning "FAIR" as a negative thing. Just UNBELIEVABLE!!!

Let us take another portion of the poll regarding the government performance (federal, local, and state) to hurricane Katrina.

From Zogby:

Just one-in-three (32%) voters say that the government response to Hurricane Katrina was adequate, while two-thirds (66%) rate the response negatively. Among those holding a negative view of the government response, President Bush bears the brunt of public criticism, with one-in-four (27%) voters saying he most deserves the blame for inadequate government response. Federal Emergency Management Agency Director Michael Brown comes in next in overall criticism, with 22% blaming him. However, the combined total blaming Louisiana Governor Kathleen Blanco (15%) and New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin (8%), the senior state and local officials, respectively, is slightly higher than those blaming Brown, with 23% placing the blame on the two Louisiana figures. Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff, meanwhile, comes in at 8%, while 9% blame other government officials. It is worth noting that among the one-in-three voters who have a favorable view of the government response, an overwhelming 40% credit the president, while 16% credit Brown, 12% credit Blanco, 6% credit Nagin, and 7% credit Chertoff.

This is just unbelievable how Zogby is spinning this in a negative way against the President.

Let us analyze, shall we.

66% of voters respond "negatively" to government response in hurricane Katrina. Again if he includes "FAIR" as negative then he is flat out lying. Now let us go further and take the figure that 27% from the 66% blame President Bush for the hurricane response, this means only 18% of the total people who are polled blame President Bush! Only 18%! This indeed is very close to what CNN/USATODAY/GALLUP poll found yesterday that only 13% blame the President for the whatever called negative performance for hurricane Katrina.

Folks this Zogby guy is just a delusional left wing moonbat, despite all his effort to extremely skew the polls and make a very negative spin of the results against President Bush, the numbers still favor the President.

Zogby needs to go back to his all internet interactive polling so he can skew the polls to get any results he wants. The phone polling despite all his attempt to skew it and make it bias still did not come up to what he wanted so he went into trashing his own poll and out an incredible negative spin on it to push down President Bush number. As usual ZOGBY FAILED MISERABLY.


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KEYWORDS: polls; zogby

1 posted on 09/09/2005 7:05:12 AM PDT by jveritas
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To: jveritas

Nailed it. Very good post.


2 posted on 09/09/2005 7:08:25 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Professional Journalism- the Buggy Whip makers of the 21st century)
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To: jveritas

What is there to analyze. An Arab is an Arab by any other name.


3 posted on 09/09/2005 7:08:57 AM PDT by hflynn ( Soros wouldn't make any sense even if he spelled his name backwards)
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To: jveritas

You mean it's not "FAIR" and Balanced?..........


4 posted on 09/09/2005 7:10:32 AM PDT by Red Badger (United States Marine Corps.....An army of WON!...........)
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To: jveritas

This man lost all credibility with his performance last November.


5 posted on 09/09/2005 7:13:00 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: jveritas

Zogby went down in flames last year. Now he's trying his hand at MSM spin.


6 posted on 09/09/2005 7:13:54 AM PDT by manwiththehands
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To: jveritas
My sense is that the MSM were not pleased with the results of the USA/CNN/Gallop poll and rushed and spun results of two flawed polls (PEW and ZOGBY) to create a collapse of Bush's favorability.

This does not alter the fact that the White House PR efforts must be stepped up to counter what is an emerging, gleeful out-of-control pile on by the MSM.
7 posted on 09/09/2005 7:15:47 AM PDT by Patriot from Philly
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To: jveritas

This zogby character has had it in for bush ever since the war on terror has focused attention on zog's family of islam. (he is of arabic background). Therefore, he is biased, and not to be trusted.

Dont forget, the ONLY reason this zog is given a lick of credit is because Rush pointed to him as the only one giving the correct numbers during a poll way back in the '90s. Ever since then, with that credibility, he has been shilling for the Rats. I say that because he was coming out with numbers that gave the KerBoy the presidency last year with big numbers, but CHANGED suddenly just days before the election to show it was neck and neck, IMO to SAVE HIS OWN NECK, kind of wonder if being an arab has anything to do with watching one's neck?


8 posted on 09/09/2005 7:17:59 AM PDT by Zrob (freedom without lies)
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To: jveritas

This zogby character has had it in for bush ever since the war on terror has focused attention on zog's family of islam. (he is of arabic background). Therefore, he is biased, and not to be trusted.

Dont forget, the ONLY reason this zog is given a lick of credit is because Rush pointed to him as the only one giving the correct numbers during a poll way back in the '90s. Ever since then, with that credibility, he has been shilling for the Rats. I say that because he was coming out with numbers that gave the KerBoy the presidency last year with big numbers, but CHANGED suddenly just days before the election to show it was neck and neck, IMO to SAVE HIS OWN NECK, kind of wonder if being an arab has anything to do with watching one's neck?


9 posted on 09/09/2005 7:18:05 AM PDT by Zrob (freedom without lies)
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To: jveritas

Good post. I'd bet that somewhere around 60 - 70% of conservatives would answer "Fair" in response to the job the President is doing.


10 posted on 09/09/2005 7:18:44 AM PDT by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: numberonepal

Not a ringing endorsement of the President's performance.

The White House needs to fire that useless press secretary and have a 'war room' where they respond to each criticism of the President quickly.

It's sad that resources have to be used this way, but the MSM can not be allowed to destroy Bush's presidency by a passive communications strategy that is not working.


11 posted on 09/09/2005 7:28:33 AM PDT by Patriot from Philly
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To: manwiththehands
Exactly
12 posted on 09/09/2005 7:29:16 AM PDT by colonialhk (sooprize sooprize sooprize)
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To: jveritas

Good Job.

Zogby = liar/spinner for the DNC and al Qaeda/CAIR.


13 posted on 09/09/2005 7:46:21 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Jamie Gorelick is responsible for more dead Americans(9-11) than those killed in Iraq.)
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To: jveritas

Good Job.

Zogby = liar/spinner for the DNC and al Qaeda/CAIR.


14 posted on 09/09/2005 7:46:26 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Jamie Gorelick is responsible for more dead Americans(9-11) than those killed in Iraq.)
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To: jveritas

Amazing how some people will throw their credibility away for the sake of an agenda.


15 posted on 09/09/2005 7:56:07 AM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Nagin Cried, People died.)
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To: All

It's not that bad people. Most of the erosion of approval ratings is from gasoline. Iraq is off the front burner. Katrina will be soon.

All that really lasts is gas prices and they do what they want to do.


16 posted on 09/09/2005 7:57:31 AM PDT by Owen
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To: hflynn
"What is there to analyze. An Arab is an Arab by any other name."

"Press passes can't be that hard to come by if the White House allows that dyspeptic, old Helen Thomas to sit within yards of the president." ~ Ann Coulter


17 posted on 09/09/2005 8:04:15 AM PDT by Matchett-PI ( "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." -- Dwight D. Eisenhow)
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To: jveritas

I don't believe anything Zogby says.


18 posted on 09/09/2005 8:06:47 AM PDT by moose2004 (You Can Run But You Can't Hide!)
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To: Matchett-PI

WWWWWWHHHHHHHOOOOOOOAAAAAAA! A little warning please. I just lost my breakfast. Always use the Beauty is only Skin Deep but Ugly is to The Bone Rule when sending me a reply before noon.


19 posted on 09/09/2005 8:08:16 AM PDT by hflynn ( Soros wouldn't make any sense even if he spelled his name backwards)
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To: jveritas

I laugh at Zogby polls, the agenda is so transparent. Shows you can juggle numbers around any way you want. When a pollster loses touch with personal integrity....his info is useless and will ultimately be recognized as worthless.


20 posted on 09/09/2005 8:11:17 AM PDT by Dudoight
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To: jveritas
I have a novel idea.

Ignore the polls, permanently!

21 posted on 09/09/2005 8:12:57 AM PDT by lormand (George W. Bush is saving your ass, whether you like it or not.)
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To: Dudoight
Zogby has no credibility. He was interviewed on a San Francisco radio station the evening of election day 2004 saying that Kerry had won easily. This was as the same time MSM was projecting Bush victories in key states based on actual vote results. The guy is a Dem shill.
22 posted on 09/09/2005 8:29:57 AM PDT by BigBobber
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To: jveritas

FAIR would probably be the vote of an independent, Libertarian, or disgruntled PaleoCon. Poll is actually pretty good even if you split the fair.


23 posted on 09/09/2005 8:32:54 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: jveritas
I'm impressed the author could even tell where the poll bias ended and the data massage began. Zogby has become bad enough at his job to become amusing rather than dangerous.
24 posted on 09/09/2005 8:46:12 AM PDT by .cnI redruM ("No wonder [Bob Denver's] dead. Bush left him on that island." -NRO)
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To: jveritas

Zogsauce, it goes good with any poll.


25 posted on 09/09/2005 8:46:40 AM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Cindy Sheehan, Pat Buchanan, John Conyers, and David Duke Are Just Different Sides of the Same Coin.)
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To: jveritas

Zogby- making the poll fit the propaganda
Zogby should open a fudge shop
imo


26 posted on 09/09/2005 9:43:08 AM PDT by joesnuffy
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To: MNJohnnie
Thank you. The above analysis is just a simple observation.
27 posted on 09/09/2005 9:53:03 AM PDT by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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To: Zrob
I think that Zogby is from Lebanese Christian descent but this means absolutely nothing since he still is a left wing liberal nut. He is an "Arabist" i.e. morons who believe in one Arab unified world that will destroy Israel. He is for sure an anti-semite, anti-Republican, anti-Bush, anti-American.
28 posted on 09/09/2005 9:59:43 AM PDT by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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To: jveritas
I think that generic "disapproval" numbers are often useless. I disapprove of various things that George W. Bush has done but my "disapproval" means something very different than the disapproval of a leftist. I would never vote for Kerry, for example, while the leftist would. And just because someone disapproves of Bush's handling of Iraq does not necessarily mean that they support pulling out. It could mean that they want to see more force applied in Iraq. So I question the usefulness of any raw "approve" or "disapprove" rating that doesn't explain the disapproval.
29 posted on 09/09/2005 10:42:54 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Question_Assumptions

Good points.


30 posted on 09/09/2005 11:22:02 AM PDT by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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