Posted on 09/18/2005 3:05:48 AM PDT by Caipirabob
Over a casual dinner, Rachel Kaplan turned to her boyfriend and asked, "You're open for a prenup, right?"
Darren Waldohlz, 38, a partner in a successful speed-dating business, admits he was caught off guard. But he said he realized a prenuptial agreement would protect the house he owns, too.
"It's not that I plan to get divorced," says Kaplan, 23, a single mom from Fort Lauderdale, who has a sizable inheritance. "I have to protect myself and my daughter."
While men are still more likely to seek a prenup, "women are becoming a more dominant force," said attorney Alan Braverman, who has offices in Fort Lauderdale and Boynton Beach.
Experts attribute the change to women marrying later or more than once.
"It's not uncommon in today's world that women are entering marriages with assets and stock options," said matrimonial attorney Jacqueline Valdespino, in Coral Gables. "Now both sides have equal bargaining power."
(Excerpt) Read more at sun-sentinel.com ...
How about taking your prenuptual agreement on the flight with you to Somalia? I bought you a one-way ticket.
P.S. Don't let the door hit you on your conceited little butt on the way out.
America - home of millions of women with attitude. (like we need more of that)
This is still more proof American males should seek women from Russia and Eastern Europe.
They are one person during the courting process, then they get the ring on your finger, and you see the real person. If you're young, it's difficult to spot them in time.
Yeah,
Being a female around here can be a bit 'fusin' at times. Seems we are bad no matter what we do, say or believe. I just sit back, eat popcorn and occaisionally throw rocks at the gorillas :)
Holy Matrimony? Sounds more like mergers and acquisitions to me.
I'm 35, my house is paid for and my son is the beneficiary of my will. That however does not protect that asset from a nasty divorce, should being married not kill me first.
Sure I plan on being careful that my future mate is sincere, and that the relationship is mutual, but assets of a half million are tempting to certain types of people.
Your opinion to which I mostly agree with fails to point out that the women back in the 40's and 50's did not have the rights and opportunities like we have today.
You said it.
I wouldn't marry anyone i had to have a pre-nup with. Another thing, I think that the church needs to take back the marriage issue. Let the unbelievers marry who-ever and where-ever. The church should be conducting weddings, as it has historically done, and with historical standards that do not include the things that the unbelievers are willing to call a marriage, ie. pre-nups, possibility for divorce, homosexual relationships, multiple partner relationships, etc.
After a while the "church wedding" will once again become the true wedding, while the "civil" ceremony will be looked at as just what it really is for most... The least path of resistance.
I guess I'm blessed. That was never a consideration.
Okay... I know I'm blessed.
You guys always seem to make light of those little affairs.
They are devastating to a marriage, it may just be sex on the side to you but to the woman it is the end of the relationship and trust. It may take a few years for it to dissolve the marriage but eventually it will and the woman will find she doesn't love the man anymore.
You only see the 'doesn't love him anymore' and not the actions of the man that brought her to that place.
You should look to the possible immorality of the men in their relationships and not try to simplify the failure of the marriage by always blaming the woman.
I see you defend your father for his affair yet condemn your mother for not being able to manage finances. You got some issues in there dude.
"Women are not angels either."
Never said we are. We are human just as the men are human and we make mistakes just as men make mistakes.
"fooling around behind their husbands backs while the men are at work trying to feed the family."
Huh? Are you trying to tell me that all women from the 40's and 50's cheated on their husbands while he is at work? Talk about reaching. Granted their were women who cheated but you can't condemn all women for the actions of a few. Also, when men cheated on their wives in the 40's and 50's, they weren't held responsible for the family they left behind because they had all the options and most of the power. Today, most of those same options and power belong to the women.
"So, don't try to make women out to be the angels that you are trying to do here."
Oh please! Quit putting words in my mouth just to suit your opinion. I NEVER said all women are angels!
"And what is the excuse for women today fooling around on their husbands backs?"
I don't know....why don't you ask a man who is cheating on his wife what his excuse is? It works both ways in case you have forgotten.
"Or women taking men for a ride and taking every dime he's got even though he didn't deserve it be treated that way."
This works both ways my friend. Men have been known to take a woman for a ride.
You seem hostile towards women because you are choosing to hold all of us accountable for the actions of a few. We aren't all evil.
I have to say that i totally agree that this type thing is why men my age, widowed with four sons to raise, a house in a good neighborhood are very cautious.
I hardly find a single woman my age who is where she is through circumstances out of her control. Very few widows, most divorcees and women who never married, mostly because they followed careers.
I find that even discussing marriage with some of these women is totally wack. They just don't have a perception of what it takes to keep house and home together, and are constantly "carving out areas" that they will not function in. They mostly can't cook, sew, or even take care of a house. That is why guys in my circumstances look either elsewhere (other countries) or to younger women who haven't been tainted by the liberal mindset and anti-male anger of the women of the 60's, 70's, and 80's.
Their anger is misguided and misplaced. Their anger now resolves itself through expression against the men they meet, like myself who have done nothing to them other than to be a gentleman etc. They are really angry for no reason, they made choices that messed them up and now want to lay that on the backs of men that they meet. This problem sure makes women from the other, more traditional countries, a lot more optional as marriage material.
Im just one single man with these experiences, but i have talked to many other men in the similar circumstances who totally agree, because of personal experience.
"Being a female around here can be a bit 'fusin' at times."
Tell me about it. I can almost hear the theme from the twilight zone.
Brilliant. There is a lot of hatred toward women on this site. From time to time I've tried to gently tell men that not all women are monsters, and we conservative women do love them. But there are some Freeper men who are so consumed with hatred that they won't even entertain the possibility that women can be good. It's like talking to Muslims who believe women are the root of all evil.
There have been threads on here before about how all women who get good jobs and become successful are bitches. But if we don't get jobs, if we are homemakers for twenty years and then can't support ourselves and our kids after Mr. Wonderful runs off with the young hottie, any demand for alimony and child support also makes us bitches. Can't win.
Well said.
Excellent post!
You can't win for losing around here. It goes beyond a double standard to something almost primal...this "I gotta have ya but I hate ya because I gotta have ya because YOU MAKE me feel this way!" Talk about abdicating personal responsibility on it's most basic level.
But I will say this, it's a learning experience. And I can see how certain things in other cultures came into being when the hatred got to be law or even religion. Scary, but again, I just eat popcorn and watch.
On the morning after she woke me up, pointed at the certificate on the wall and said, “Now you can’t leave me.” The marriage lasted 6 months.
You're lucky she didn't turn up pregnant. Btw, did your bowels turn to water after she said that?
I took my now ex to meet my parents. He figured they had money(I know this now), and asked me to marry him after 3 weeks of dating. I decided that there was something wrong, but turned up preggers 6 months later. He then asked, "now will you marry me"? Of course my mother would not stomach the idea of an "illegitimate grandchild", so at 18, I kind of got railroaded into the marriage.
That was 27 yrs ago, and at the moment, we are engaged in a custody battle for the 11 yr old. His last response has opened him up to a psychiatric evaluation.
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