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various FR links & stories | 09-21-05 | the heavy equipment guy

Posted on 09/21/2005 11:48:48 AM PDT by backhoe

Update: Category 4 Hurricane Rita - Live Thread, Part II  

Hurricane Rita Freeper Sign In Thread

 Rita may be 'national disaster': oil CEO
 
 
 Rita now a Category 3 hurricane
 
 Hurricane Rita Live Thread -- it has actually become rather comical because, in typical style, they ignore facts.
 Case in point: my attempt to educate an acquaintance about the fact that more hurricanes struck the US by decade in the late Nineteenth Century than in recent times. This person acts as if hurricanes were a new phenomenon and happening at a greater rate than ever before. I can understand how someone who doesn't know the facts might fall for the global warming bunk, but you'd think that once you show him the historical records, he'd say, "Hey, you're right. I didn't know that." Forget about it. This person wants to believe what he wants to believe, and any facts that contradict that are ignored. It's pathological.
 3-STAR HONORE' "ARE YOU STUCK ON STUPID"...AUDIO...TOO FUNNY
 
 Coastal TX Evacuation Maps 
 
  News Conference on Hurricane Rita: Lt. Gen. Honore: 'Don't get stuck on stupid, reporter.' (audio) -- I apologize to you, but let's talk about the future. Rita is happening. And right now, we need to get good, clean information out to the people that they can use. And we can have a conversation on the side about the past, in a couple of months.
 
 Way cool video of Rita's development.
 
 Check out this infrared image:

mash this

Notice the line of clouds extending out before the storm? Katrina had the same thing - and it pointed in the direction she ended up going.

 
 http://gom.rigzone.com/rita.asp

Interactive map of oil rigs in path of Rita
 

Oil rigs in the path of Hurricane Rita (map: RigZone.com)

I hope the democrat websites and the MSM don't get a hold of this photo.

 Hurricane Center May Run Out of Names By Ker Than ... Liberals will start naming them, "Bush's Fault"..."Still Bush's Fault"...."Also Bush's Fault"...."You Know What Bush's Fault"...

 Here's Their Chance! -- Let all of the complainers, ie Kerry, Kennedy, Pelosi, Reid, Jesse Jackson, and any other of the folks who have blamed the federal government, specifically President Bush and FEMA for the so-called failures in the Katrina effort, do their duty! Each and every one of the dirty bastages should fly into the Texas gulf coast prior to Rita...

 Tropical Storm Rita Live Thread -- The difference in the two news conferences I just heard- Jeb speaking with Floridians and Nagin talking down to...everyone.   Jeb giving information and instilling confidence.  Nagin acting arrogant and wishy-washy (an amazing combination) and giving NO information.

 Interactive map showing evac routes from Houston.
 http://www.chron.com/content/chronicle/special/05/hurricane/index.html
 
 Here's what you need:

Water
a fill bath tub
b fill all large pots
c several dozen cleaned plastic milk carton / change quarterly

Battery operated radio
Battery operated flashlights (1 per person + 1)

Week worth of batteries for above

Fill propane for gas grill

Fill all cars

Sterno cans and fondue pot for cooking

Matches, lighter, lighter fluid

Several rolls of 6 mil plastic sheets 10’ x 100’

5 boxes of 20 each, large garbage sacks

4 pair heavy work gloves

Axe, hatchet, shovel nails, heavy duty staples, staple gun, hammers, saws, chain saw

6 bread baking pans (to make block ice)

4 large ice chests

Hand operated can opener and bottle opener

Bug spray

1 month of all medicine, gauze, band aids, tape, alcohol, OTC headache, antiseptic

Heavy duty knives, 100 each plastic forks, spoons, knives, paper towels, paper plates Toilet Paper!

Soup, Vienna sausage, peanut butter, crackers, chili, bread, several small jelly, mustard, spam, apples, dried fruit, hard candy,

Stove top coffee pot, 10 lbs coffee, sugar, salt, pepper, tea bags

2 12 ga shot guns – 2 boxes of 00; 1 of slugs; bird shot

 Might as well line them up now:

http://www.wxnation.com/houston/


http://www.skeetobiteweather.com/

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/tlh/tropical/

Texas Weather Cams:

http://www.weatherimages.org/weathercams/usa.html#TX



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 Hurricane RITA Update (pressure hits 898 MB or lower)

21 posted on 09/21/2005 5:01:24 PM PDT by backhoe
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 898 mb per foxnews just now...number 3 of all (recorded) time. oy.  There have been 22 Category 5 hurricanes in the Atlantic since records began in 1886.
 Katrina: Cat 5, 35-Foot Waves
 
 


172 posted on 09/21/2005 8:04:23 PM EDT

22 posted on 09/21/2005 5:11:08 PM PDT by backhoe
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 From the top of the thread, FReepers Offering Lodging To Rita Evacuees - People and/or Pet Friendly FReepers Offering Shelter
 
 Thanks for the link. FR is on top of it, as usual.
 
 1) Link to maps of storm surge danger zones in the greater Houston area:

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/hgx/tropical/evac_map/gifs/

(Chambers, Liberty, Harris, Galveston, Brazoria, Matagorda, Jackson counties, from east to west)


2) Map of flood danger zones(all types) in Houston:

http://www.houstontx.gov/oem/c5ss.jpg
 
 Houston worse-case scenario
 
 Here is the toy you are looking for. High is Sat AM around 7, low SAT 7 PM.
 
 OK so that's where the quote came from. Joe Bastardi did not make it up!
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/metropolitan/3046592

Info on the New Orleans-destroying "Save Our Wetlands"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1488707/posts?page=33#33
 
 My hubby said one of his people called in, it took them five hours to get from Houston to The Woodlands...

I just spent the last five hours out in it. Here are my observations:

All freeways are jammed and bumper-to-bumper, like the very worst of rush-hour, except that it doesn't end, not even in the middle of the night, and *all* sections of freeway are that bad, including the parts that are normally still pretty clear during normal rush-hours. The only exception are lanes heading *towards* the coast, which are about as empty as they can be -- I made record time heading down towards the NASA are. It's getting *back* that was grueling.

The feeder roads are actually better than the freeways most of the time, and at times can zip along pretty quickly, up to 50mph.

Just a block or two off the freeways, the surface roads ARE CLEAR SAILING. I found this to be consistently true all over town. If you know your way around town, AVOID THE FREEWAYS and drive the surface streets. You'll make *much* better time, even taking into consideration the traffic lights and lower speed limits. Not only are the evacuees all on the freeways and not on the surface streets, but the regular city traffic isn't out as usual either, since the whole city is battening down the hatches.

 
 A million flee wrath of Rita -- Current location

 
 
 Rita could equal $5 gas
 


23 posted on 09/22/2005 12:26:27 AM PDT by backhoe
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 FNC just said 175 mph SUSTAINED winds.
Lord have mercy.
 
 

24 posted on 09/22/2005 1:21:30 AM PDT by backhoe
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 I noticed several hours ago that Rita took a more abrupt turn to the northwest than the forecast track would indicate. More importantly, you can check out several of the leading models here, and they are in fact now veering toward the TX-LA border.
 
 
 Rita Hits Cat 5 Hurricane [ 1, 2, 3 ]
 


25 posted on 09/22/2005 2:21:11 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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 Hurricane Impact Report* for Galveston
http://tinyurl.com/a667p
 
 ALL the latest models are now showing the Sabine Pass area, the Tx La border. The strom has started it's turn earlier than anticipated and is now moving WNW.
Bad bad news for New Orleans.
 
 Not the greatest map, but here's one from KPLC.
 
 Speaking of boarding up, did you see the plylox window clips mentioned on another thread? I'm planning to check those out for the patio doors.

26 posted on 09/22/2005 2:47:45 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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IF ALL THIS WASN/T ENOUGH...GFS80 HAS CONTINUED TO SHOW A REBUILDING RIDGE ALL AROUND WEAKENING RITA...SO MUCH THAT RITA COULD ROTATE AROUND PARTS OF N E AND S TEXAS FOR SEVERAL DAYS.


27 posted on 09/22/2005 2:56:03 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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 RITA PREDICTION FROM THE U.S. NAVY
http://tinyurl.com/8rgr8
 
 Senators seek to rein in gas prices [Major ignorance of Economics 101]
 
 
Emergency routes
Evacuation Map for Southwest Louisiana
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28 posted on 09/22/2005 3:10:16 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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 UPDATE

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at3+shtml/085837.shtml?5day


Wow that is a MAJOR shift in the forecast.
29 posted on 09/22/2005 3:22:27 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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 Hurricane Rita Live Thread, Part IV
 
 Oil nears $68, Rita threatens facilities ($67.75/bbl)

30 posted on 09/22/2005 3:52:16 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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To: backhoe
Thanks, backhoe! Again! :)

Hadn't seen that map of the rig locations before. Wow.

31 posted on 09/22/2005 3:57:45 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla
Hi, mewzilla- thanks for stopping by!

Hadn't seen that map of the rig locations before. Wow.

Yes, I wish I could find mhking's "Just Damn!" banner- it really can't get much worse.

32 posted on 09/22/2005 4:02:02 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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 IMMEDIATE RITA EVACUATION RECOMMENDATIONS
 Someone on a previous thread commented on how this was a hundred mile wide tornado. That's not so far off base.
This is the Fujita scale;
Zero (F0) Weak 40-72 mph
One (F1) Weak 73-112 mph
Two (F2) Strong 113-157 mph
Three (F3) Strong 158-206 mph
Four (F4) Violent 207-260 mph
Five (F5) Violent 260-318 mph


This storm is equivalent to an F3 tornado.
I hope people are listening THIS time.

33 posted on 09/22/2005 6:25:17 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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 HURRICANE RITA INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY NUMBER 20A
 
 Rain from Rita begins falling in New Orleans
 
 Rita brings flooding fears to New Orleans
 
 
Tropical Watch and NHC Models for Google Earth - contains 4 NHC storm forecast models, 3 updated satellite images, and a ton of analytical diagrams overlayed on Google Earth.

US High-res National Radar from NSSL/U.ofOkla. National high-resolution (1 km) radar reflectivity mosaic, updated once every two minutes. Note that there are no radar sites in the middle of the gulf, so until the storm nears land and the sites that are there, you won't see much on this radar.

Here's a composite I just did which combines both of the dynamic data layers listed above and overlays them on Google Earth.


1,610 posted on 09/22/2005 2:59:01 PM EDT by Spiff
 
 Free Abortions for Hurricane Victims
 
 Tax-cut canard
 
 The Need To Seed -- Massive Cloud or Ocean Seeding - Could It Make A Difference?
 
 Oil Prices Surge as Hurricane Rita Nears -- did you see the nat gas prices? $12.81 at last check. No wonder why the envirowhackos want all power to be natural gas; then there will be rolling blackouts from supply disruptions.
 
 Thoughts on Expediting Houston Evacuations -- Why doesn't some level of government (or even private) offer roadside interstate refueling?
Make a mobile 4 to 8 pump system that connects to a fuel semi and park it at a rest stop or on the shoulder and let people fill their tanks without leaving the highway ...
 
 Fox news has reported that the military is using gas tank trucks in designating areas along the highway for folks who run out of gas...don't ask me how they'll do it! That's what the reporter said! Military type gas tank trucks, like the ones used in Iraq

34 posted on 09/22/2005 12:17:19 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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 After this hurricane season and the paucity of gasoline supplies, any liberal envionmentalists who whine about drilling in ANWAR should be required by law to WALK wherever they have to go.
 
 
To: onyx; All

Update:

Galveston roads are almost completely empty. Hwy 146 (freeway on the west border of Galveston Bay) is also empty all the way up to at least Baytown. I-45 gulf freeway is nearly empty all the way up from Galveston to almost Loop 610(a few miles southeast of downtown.) Southwest freeway nearly empty at Beltway 8 on the west side of Houston.

Still stacked up on all the freeways to the west and north, but traffic has begun moving faster in the last hour or two. Outbound side roads out those directions also clogged, but the rear of the backup is advancing north and west. Keep in mind, the evac plan wasn't designed for a 100% evac of the metro, just 100% of the lowlying areas. Those in suitable buildings 60 miles or more inland might be ok staying. La Porte officials believe 80% of town has evacuated.

I-45 contraflow open, I-10 soon to open, Hwy 290 still not open because bottlenecks in Giddings and Brenham are not yet cleared. Some pissant counties out to the west don't have their act together and haven't been able to implement their portions of the statewide evac plans. Huge backup in Fulshear because the lights are on their normal cycle and the town police can't be bothered to direct traffic. Guess he's too busy "Blocking the bridge"?

Biggest unforseen headache seems to be the shutdown of nearly all gas stations. Since the evac plans didn't anticipate a full evacuation of the metro, it appears they weren't treated as essential services. Rolling gas resupply fleet was part of the plan, but it may not be enough. Wonder if officials will commandeer closed gas stations that still have inventory. Let the Libertarians bitch all they want about that. Those stranded who don't get gas will be taken to shelters. Still nearly 36 hours of evacuation time left.

According to Channel 11 in Houston, IF the current track holds Conroe could be looking at 75 mph sustained winds, hurricane winds maybe as far west as Sealy. Baytown could see 90-100mph, downtown Houston 75-90mph. 1 in 4 pine trees could be blown down in the metro.

Some possible suggestions:

Head southwest along the coast and turn north or west. In fact Harlingen/Brownsville, Laredo, (and maybe even Corpus depending on what happens the next 12-24 hours) might be the best place to head to. You can always sleep in your car, but a lot easier to do so without hurricane winds.

If you must evac using I-45, 290, I-10, etc., perhaps wait a few more hours and see if the lines start to lessen. If you are stuck in traffic(congrats on being online in your car!) towards the rear of the backup and starting to run low on gas, pull over for a few hours to conserve gas and let the backup drain down. Things will most likely start moving faster over the next few hours as contraflow takes its effect and others have been scared off from trying to get in line to get out.

But remember, a direct hit on Galveston is still about the highest possibility, at 24% (chance of a landfall within 50 miles either way.) Port Arthur is at 21%, Corpus at 19%, and New Orleans still at 16%. The models are still divergent, so there is NO guarantee that the track will continue to move east, and may at some point move west again. There are 2 different highs affecting this track, and the solid ridge is going to break at some point.





1,989 posted on 09/22/2005 3:57:25 PM EDT by Diddle E. Squat

35 posted on 09/22/2005 1:00:30 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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 Legislation would require pet to be included in evacuations
 
 The Right Way to Use Buses
 
 Picture of Rita's Wind Swath from NOAA
 
 (RITA) Leaving Houston? Good luck -- [shakes head] Just checked the traffic cams at http://traffic.houstontranstar.org/cameras/camtext.aspx - all the traffic-laden roads are NOT using both sets of lanes. Painful to see full-blown jams on one side of the median, and almost entirely empty on the other side.

36 posted on 09/22/2005 1:17:18 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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 kplc tv streaming again. http://www.kplctv.com/
 
 
 
 
 Where's the calls for Fed aid? Where's the looters?( Vanity )
 
 I doubt we'll see much "looting" in Texas
 
 Round Two: Rita is all Bush’s Fault!
 
 Elaborate plans in motion ahead of Rita
 
 The folks in Lake Charles are smarter than Nagin and company in NOLA - How to evacuate (Lake Charles) if you have no transportation. They'll be running buses around the city at 7 am tomorrow to pick up people who can't make it to the Civic Center to catch buses out of town there.

37 posted on 09/22/2005 4:50:53 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
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 Hurricane Rita Live Thread, Part V
 Previous Threads:
Hurricane Rita Live Thread, Part IV
Hurricane Rita Live Thread, Part III
Hurricane Rita Live Thread, Part II
Hurricane Rita Live Thread, Part I
Tropical Storm Rita
Tropical Depression 18
 
 Running out of time (Bush blamed for Houston's traffic) -- I just saw a live shot of the Highways and there is NO TRAFFIC JAMS right now.
Of course. The contraflow cleared out the jams in three hours.
But the media have their story, and they'll pimp it even as people are driving out of Houston at the posted speed limits.
 
 Gun sales surge in Louisiana following storm
 
 No Way Out: Tears, Anger As Many Poor Are Stuck
 
 Update from Freeper at Houston via email
 
 Rita evacuation turns into traffic nightmare -- Lots of macro and micro lessons to be learned

No kidding.

So far:

1. Gun ownership - vital

2. Survival basics for at least a week should be on hand

3. The government can not protect you and your family

4. Band together with like-minded individuals and watch each other's back

5. Have alternate escape routes from large metropolitan areas pre-mapped so you're not killed with the cattle during the coming dirty nuke/bio-strike

 NRA files suit to stop firearms seizures in New Orleans

British scientist criticises US climate "loonies" -- this so-called scientist has nothing to say on the sharp DECREASE in hurricanes over the past 70 years...

 
 Weather Service officials gave dire, accurate warnings before Hurricane Katrina hit -- It's tough to reason with people who are stuck on stupid.
 
 Hurricane Wind Forces On Levee Flood Walls
 
 

Water going over Seawall Avenue in Galveston - already

1,568 posted on 09/23/2005 2:41:04 AM EDT

38 posted on 09/23/2005 1:34:08 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
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 Today's Rita Coverage Stirs Ashes of Katrina's Racial Discord: "Afraid You Could Be Left Behind?"
 
 [Boston:] Hub evac plan useless: Traffic jams mean 'you're dead'
 
 Bus explodes carrying evacuees (drudge headline only) -- WFAA claiming ONE fatality. That sounds much better than what they were saying of FOX.  

As many as 20 reportedly dead in evacuee bus fire

 
 
 
 
 

FNC Alert

Water gushing into NO's 9th ward

1,993 posted on 09/23/2005 9:08:21 AM EDT by Mo1

39 posted on 09/23/2005 6:14:45 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
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 Hurricane Rita Live Thread, Part VI
 
 The wind's picking up here now, even though she's been downgraded to CAT III. This is the latest NOAA photo.
 
 Frankly, all this coverage of watching New Orleans flood again is making me, and I'm sure lot of other people, even more convinced that the rebuilding of New Orleans cannot happen in anything close to the same way it was before.
 

New Orleans Facing More Flooding by Rita
 
 Water gushing into NO 9th Ward
 
 The current NOLA radar loop at
http://www.srh.noaa.gov/ridge/lix_N0Z_lp.shtml
 
Well, here's a photo of what's going on with the levee:

Looks like it's well on the way to becoming a breach.

2,494 posted on 09/23/2005 11:50:02 AM EDT by dirtboy
 
 

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Image #2

301 posted on 09/23/2005 2:18:06 PM EDT by GRRRRR
 
 Groups call arms seizures 'arbitrary'
 
 ‘It really puts the fear of God in you’
 
 Fast Facts: How to Prepare

40 posted on 09/23/2005 12:16:02 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
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