Great Britain: Doc's outrage on disabled (Recommends GUILLOTINE for the severely disabled)

The Sun (U.K.) ^ | September 24, 2005 | JOHN COLES

[Stoat]

Doc's outrage on disabled

Outburst ... Owen Lister
 

By JOHN COLES

A RETIRED GP sparked fury yesterday by saying disabled kids should be guillotined to save cash.

The outburst by Owen Lister, 79, a Tory councillor and deputy mayor, came in a council meeting over funding to care for such youngsters.

Mr Lister said it was too expensive to look after severely disabled children — and the money should be used elsewhere.

The Disability Rights Commission said: “It’s chilling that an elected representative with responsibilities for deciding on support to disabled children should view the slaughter of innocents as legitimate public comment.”

Mr Lister had been speaking about a proposal to put children from Swindon, Wilts, into a special home in Cornwall.

He said yesterday: “There was a decision about the placement of severely disabled children at a cost of £3,000 per child per week.

“I indicated at that point that really perhaps the guillotine might be better. These are children you cannot educate. It’s merely a matter of caring for them until they die.”

 

Horrific ... guillotine
Picture: REX
 

 

When he realised the uproar he had provoked he quit as deputy mayor and from Swindon’s children’s overview committee, where he made the comments.

But South Swindon Labour MP Anne Snelgrove said he should also step down as a councillor.

She added: “He is not fit to represent anyone.”

The Tories who run the council rejected the comments. And local residents were also outraged.

Joe Backshell, 71, who is confined to a wheelchair and has only one arm, said: “If he’s making comments like this in public what does he say in private? He must apologise.”

Special needs teacher Paula O’Mahoney, 36, said: “He obviously lives without any compassion.”

Mr Lister — married with two adopted adult children — now faces an internal council inquiry.

 

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,31-2005440471,00.html

Mr Nasty THEY don’t come nastier than Owen Lister. Lister, deputy mayor of Swindon, Wilts, believes severely disabled children should be guillotined to save the cash spent caring for them. Fellow councillors have likened him to Hitler’s Nazis. Astonishingly, Lister is a retired family doctor and a member of a committee which hands out funds for disabled children. Chillingly, he advocates killing children who have “little purpose”. It’s time Lister took stock of his own purpose on this planet. Sadly, Swindon has no pier. Otherwise he could jump off it.

 

[Stoat]

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TORY DEPUTY MAYOR: THE BEST THING FOR DISABLED CHILDREN IS THE GUILLOTINE

By Geoffrey Lakeman

A TORY deputy mayor has sparked outrage by calling for disabled kids to be guillotined to avoid wasting cash on their care.

Retired GP Owen Lister made his sick suggestion to fellow councillors as they discussed sending the youngsters to a £3,000-a-week care home.

Mr Lister, 79, told them: "I would guillotine them."

He has now quit as deputy mayor but yesterday stood by his outburst.

He said: "I indicated at that point that perhaps the guillotine might be better.

"These are children you can't educate. It's merely a matter of caring for them until they die.

 

 

"The only difference between a terminally ill patient and a severely handicapped child is time." The councillor, of Swindon, Wilts, argued the funds should instead be used to cut NHS waiting lists.

 

He added: "It shows how peculiar we are as a society on this matter that we spend this vast amount of money caring for disabled youngsters to very little purpose at all.

 

"It would be better spent on those who might actually benefit, such as cancer sufferers. We have 5,800 people waiting to go into hospital in Swindon. A percentage of those will die as a result of waiting too long."

 

His remarks came as the borough council's children's committee debated putting youngsters in a Cornwall home. Labour councillor Fay Howard said: "There was a slight pause and looks of disbelief. Everyone was totally shocked."

 

Labour colleague Barrie Thompson, the committee's vice-chairman, likened Lister to one of Hitler's henchmen. He said: "The last time I heard remarks like that were from Heinrich Himmler."

 

And the Disability Rights Commission added: "It's chilling that an elected representative with responsibilities for deciding on support to disabled children should view the slaughter of innocents as legitimate public comment."

 

Mr Lister also quit the children's committee and now faces a council probe.

 

A council spokeswoman said: "He recognised he'd said something deeply inappropriate that could cause offence and resigned straight away."

 

 

[cripplecreek]

Hand him over to the jihadis.

[RetroSexual]

I wonder how many of those outraged Brits think it's OK to abort a baby who might be born disabled?

[43north]

A product of socialized medicine at his best...

Nice eyebrows, too.

[MarkBSenior]

Well, let's see. He's 79 and senile and just a drain on the system.

Not even worth the effort to turn him into Soylent Green.

Hmm. Better off him right now before he costs the country even more money.

[Canard]

Ok, who forgot to get the keys to the drug cabinet back from him when he retired...

[frankjr]

The Doc should use a guillotine on those eyebrows of his...or at least some hedge trimeers.

[The Great RJ]

The Nazi's favored poison gas for killing the disabled and retarded and even made a propaganda ilm called Life Without Life to justify the process. I'm sure this gentleman could find a lot of detailed information how to carry out such a program in the transcripts of the Nuremburg War Crimes Trials.

[Tax Government]

His offense evidently is not that he advocated euthanasia, but that he suggested last century's humane method, not this century's (lethal injection).

[FairOpinion]

"His offense evidently is not that he advocated euthanasia, but that he suggested last century's humane method, not this century's (lethal injection)."

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Where have you been? In this century the preferred method for killing the disabled is to force them to die of thirst, as they did with Terri Schiavo.

[Mr. K]

"...Sadly, Swindon has no pier. Otherwise he could jump off it. .."

Is that really in the article? Where are editors these days...? PEER is the word that should have been used instead of PIER, and the whole sentence is then incorrect and not a joke.

[Canard]

"PEER is the word that should have been used instead of PIER"

Eh?

[Grizzled Bear]

From a nation that is too enlightened to sentence murderers and rapists to death. I'm floored...

[operation clinton cleanup]

Maybe he was quoted out of context..... like Cindy Sheehan always is.

[Stoat]

Is that really in the article?

It was in The Sun's editorial commentary to the article; the URL to that commentary is provided above the graphic "The Sun Says".

I think that the Sun's editors, legendary for creative wordplay, were engaging in double entendre.  The reference to "pier" in this case may be a reference to the phrase "take a long walk on a short pier", which suggests not only that he should go jump in the ocean but also by saying "he has no pier" that he has no substance, perhaps referring to an architectural pier, used to support a building.

I am thinking that the word "peer" as in an equal - stature person,  was not part of this particular wordplay but it's of course also completely true, in that no true doctor or public servant worthy of the title would ever consider saying such a thing so utterly reprehensible.

This is just my guess of course.  One of the reasons why I sometimes read and post The Sun is because of their creative use of language, oftentimes including British slang and witticisms that are an interesting change for this American's news intake.

[sassbox]

"The only difference between a terminally ill patient and a severely handicapped child is time." The councillor, of Swindon, Wilts, argued the funds should instead be used to cut NHS waiting lists.

He added: "It shows how peculiar we are as a society on this matter that we spend this vast amount of money caring for disabled youngsters to very little purpose at all.

"It would be better spent on those who might actually benefit, such as cancer sufferers. We have 5,800 people waiting to go into hospital in Swindon. A percentage of those will die as a result of waiting too long."

I don't doubt for a minute these sorts of decisions would happen in this country if the 'rats ever succeed in forcing socialized medicine on us.

[Knitting A Conundrum]

It was done on purpose to make that final comment.

[cubreporter]

ok...why doesn't he kick it off? Let's start with him since he has a mind that is disabled. You first dude.

[Charles Henrickson]

Owen Lister, 79

You know, when people hit 75, 80, they start to run up an awful lot of medical costs. . . .

[Mr. Jeeves]

“I indicated at that point that really perhaps the guillotine might be better. These are children you cannot educate. It’s merely a matter of caring for them until they die.”

Do you know how many Democratic Party constituents we would have to kill off if this principle took hold? ;)