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The Problem With Evolution
ChronWatch ^ | 09/25/05 | Edward L. Daley

Posted on 09/26/2005 5:44:09 AM PDT by DARCPRYNCE

Charles Darwin, the 19th century geologist who wrote the treatise 'The Origin of Species, by means of Natural Selection' defined evolution as "descent with modification". Darwin hypothesized that all forms of life descended from a common ancestor, branching out over time into various unique life forms, due primarily to a process called natural selection.

However, the fossil record shows that all of the major animal groups (phyla) appeared fully formed about 540 million years ago, and virtually no transitional life forms have been discovered which suggest that they evolved from earlier forms. This sudden eruption of multiple, complex organisms is often referred to as the Cambrian Explosion, and even Darwin knew about the lack of evidence in the fossil record to support his theory a century and a half ago.

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To: DARCPRYNCE

"DARCPRYNCE
Since May 31, 2001"

Really? FR says you signed up on the date show above. Is that incorrect? Is there something wrong with FR's database?


41 posted on 09/26/2005 6:38:28 AM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: tamalejoe
and that all other competing theories be ruled out apriori and labeled as religion or pseudoscience.

That's becasue there are no other theories uspported by evidence. The cause celeb of the day, ID, doesn't even have any facts behind it. Evolution does.

43 posted on 09/26/2005 6:41:09 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: damoboy
God -is- an alien, at least to us, as we are. The Bible says God's ways and thoughts are as high above ours as the sky is above our heads. He is nothing like us. The very definition of "alien".

And yet, we are made in his image. God's ways are "alien" to us, but he is very real to those who have faith in him, worship him, pray to him, and follow him.

44 posted on 09/26/2005 6:41:34 AM PDT by moog
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To: Marauder
That so many modern-day scientists could remain so dogmatically committed to a single, largely assumptive, and at least partially discredited theory for so many years, without even attempting to look at other possibilities, is a testament to their narrow-mindedness and intolerance for truly independent thought.

That's a statement that might not go over too well with some people on this board, but it's hard to disagree with.

Bull. It's easy to disagree with. No matter how many times you point out to cretards that they can't learn real science by reading a bible tract, they still insist that they know, scientifically, that one of the most well-understood and established theories in science is somehow "in controversy" because their pathetic religious feelings requires them to believe that fact.

45 posted on 09/26/2005 6:41:42 AM PDT by WildHorseCrash
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To: moog

"You're right, ID or creationism is more faith-based than anything."

In the first place, ID is not the same thing as Creationism. Secondly, Evolution theory is just as faith-based as any other theory concerning the origin of life.


46 posted on 09/26/2005 6:42:39 AM PDT by DARCPRYNCE
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To: MineralMan

Could be or his computer. Last week something on ours got messed up and it was displaying the date as NOV. instead of SEPT. Right date and year though.


47 posted on 09/26/2005 6:42:49 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: AZConcervative
Can you site one single passage from the bible that can be unquestionably refuted? Just one. You can't, trust me.

On that note, can you find one piece of evidence that refutes the existence of the FLying Spagetti Monster? You can't. I was touched by His Noodley Appendage yesterday. Prove me wrong.

48 posted on 09/26/2005 6:43:21 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

So your problem with science is that it takes into account new evidence as it becomes available?


49 posted on 09/26/2005 6:43:28 AM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You know, Happy Time Harry, just being around you kinda makes me want to die.)
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To: doc30

ID has to depend on scientific facts (e.g. the laws of nature being complex), some included in evolution. And yet, it requires faith too.


50 posted on 09/26/2005 6:43:39 AM PDT by moog
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To: doc30

Parody is a lot of fun. And parody begets more parody, especially on the Internet. It's contagious. Did the god of your parody religion die for you?


51 posted on 09/26/2005 6:44:29 AM PDT by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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To: WildHorseCrash

Your put downs are low class.


52 posted on 09/26/2005 6:46:57 AM PDT by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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To: DARCPRYNCE

In the first place, ID is not the same thing as Creationism. Secondly, Evolution theory is just as faith-based as any other theory concerning the origin of life.

ID is indeed creationism, just a little beyond it. Both require the existence of a supreme creator or guiding force. That is understood to be God no matter what. God is the premise behind creation and also is the premise behind ID. I agree with your last statement too. Evolution requires "faith" as well. There are some merits--things to change and adapt to different conditions, but it does require some stretching.


53 posted on 09/26/2005 6:47:07 AM PDT by moog
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To: Mylo

I only made an observation about the fervor with which some FReepers react to statements on this subject, especially if those statements are pro-Creation and/or anti-evolution.

Were you trying to prove my point?


54 posted on 09/26/2005 6:48:06 AM PDT by Marauder (The height of hypocrisy: Members of congress upset because someone lied to them.)
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To: DARCPRYNCE

Of course, just seeing the complexity of God's creations is enough proof to me that there was something behind it all.


55 posted on 09/26/2005 6:48:48 AM PDT by moog
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To: Owl_Eagle
Damnit, I'm distantly related to a pine tree and if you can't see that, you're a Bible thumping creationist!!!

I'd have guessed your distant cousin was an oak, walnut, or pecan tree, myself! ;-P

56 posted on 09/26/2005 6:49:08 AM PDT by MortMan (Mostly Harmless)
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To: DARCPRYNCE

While fossils exist and can provide for us evidence for the ToE, it cannot go further back because there is no physical evident for what existed BEFORE the fossils. All the ideas on what conditions existed on the Earth to support the evolution of life are mere speculation. Evolutionists are forced to use words like "must have been", "conditions favorable to the development of life", "probably", ad nauseum. What they are forced to do is recreate the conditions that they think must have been needed for life to develop.


57 posted on 09/26/2005 6:50:29 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Mylo

"Now how many massacres were initiated by differences in Scientific ideology?"

I don't know, but the communists, who are basically atheistic, killed many millions of innocent men, women and children over a relatively short span of time... more than religious zealots have over the course of known human history.


58 posted on 09/26/2005 6:51:45 AM PDT by DARCPRYNCE
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To: metmom

All the ideas on what conditions existed on the Earth to support the evolution of life are mere speculation.

There are indeed some records from geological processes. However, being able to tell exact dates is suspect.


59 posted on 09/26/2005 6:52:13 AM PDT by moog
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To: tamalejoe
Evolutionists are making evolution into a political issue by insisting that it be taught as a fact in public schools at public expense, and that all other competing theories be ruled out apriori and labeled as religion or pseudoscience.

Ultimately this one will be settled at ballot boxes and in courtrooms.

That's a sad testament. These creatards are trying to ram their religious bullcrap into schools and informed, educated and intelligent conservatives are forced to hope that the federal judiciary steps up to the plate to turn back these maniacs and actually uphold the Constitution. That these people are motivated to try and destroy the science of evolution along with the First Amendment is a sad testament to how pitifully small the conservative movement is becoming. It's becoming a bought-and-paid-for arm of "Cristo-theocracy, Inc." ("Believe man rode dinosaurs, and send me money. Cha-ching!")

60 posted on 09/26/2005 6:53:24 AM PDT by WildHorseCrash
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