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Mark Levin on DeLay
National Review Online ^ | 9/28/05 | Mark R. Levin

Posted on 09/28/2005 11:07:04 AM PDT by wcdukenfield

DELAY [Mark R. Levin] Here's my first take on this indictment (I've only read the indictment and nothing more for now): The indictment is three pages in length. Other than a statement that "one or more" of 3 individuals, including Tom DeLay, entered into an illegal conspiracy, I can't find a single sentence tying Tom DeLay to a crime. That is, there's not a single sentence tying DeLay to the contribution. The indictment describes the alleged conduct of two other individuals, but nothing about DeLay. You would think if Ronnie Earle had even a thin reed of testimony linking DeLay to the contribution, it would have been noted in the indictment to justify the grand jury's action. Moreover, not only is there no information about DeLay committing acts in furtherance of a conspiracy, there's no information about DeLay entering into a conspiracy. I honestly believe that unless there's more, this is an egregious abuse of prosecutorial power. It's a disgrace. I understand that not everything has to be contained in an indictment, but how about something! Posted at 01:58 PM


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To: Soul Seeker

I'm not an idealist. Political assassination is just tricks of the trade and both parties engage in it. It's a dirty business overall and rather unbecoming but if you stop to consider the pandering, slandering and spin the established political parties engage in to hold power why would you think that only democrats engage in such behavior?

Fair ain't got nothing to do with it.


161 posted on 09/28/2005 12:44:41 PM PDT by misterrob
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To: Red Badger

"Where do I go to get my reputation back? What office do I contact?"

-Ray Donovan


162 posted on 09/28/2005 12:46:29 PM PDT by Obadiah (Deuteronomy 6:5)
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To: misterrob

Really? Republicans act the same way? This is your contention?

Cool. Then I suppose you can step out of your tired rhetoric and provide a name right now of a ranking Democrat being indicted on fimsy charges by a Republican on a witchhunt.

Give me the name right now.


163 posted on 09/28/2005 12:47:39 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Barbour/Honore in '08)
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To: cake_crumb

I shed no tears for DeLay. He likes to play hardball and what he got is what one should expect in backroom politics. This isn't about right vs. wrong, it's all about politics which onto itself is bad business.

There's nothing innocent about Tom DeLay and the rest of his kind. They play rough and tumble and do what they have to to stay in power. Been going on since the dawn of time and it won't change.

Wanna talk about my mother next?



164 posted on 09/28/2005 12:47:57 PM PDT by misterrob
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To: wcdukenfield
That's right - no allegation of what DeLay did to violate the law. If the D.A isn't more forthcoming, this will be seen for what Levin calls it - a prosecutorial abuse of power and DeLay's attorneys can have the Texas courts sanction the prosecution. Did Earle provide more specifics at his own news conference after the indictment was released?

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
165 posted on 09/28/2005 12:48:06 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: marta R

"It's good to hear that, I have alot of respect for Mark Levin, but if Tom De Lay did something wrong I think he should be treated like anyone else."

You mean like Sandy Berger?


166 posted on 09/28/2005 12:48:14 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Liberal Talking Point - Bush = Hitler ... Republican Talking Point - Let the Liberals Talk)
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To: All
Does anyone else find it at all convenient that just as the Democraps hit the fan over phantom NO police officers, missing flood control funds, misappropriation of rescue personnel and equipment,Blank/Noggin's idiocy and admissions that the NO horror stories were pure fabrications......the Dems resurrect their pet witch hunter?
167 posted on 09/28/2005 12:48:53 PM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: wcdukenfield
By my read, on pages 3 and 4, no specific allegation of ANY crime has been made, but Ronnie Earl has indicted DeLay with the option to bring charges within 3 years!

Seems to me, this is just a ploy to remove him from his leadership position, without actually having to have any evidence of ANY criminal activity!

If I were DeLay, I'd demand a VERY speedy trial and DEMAND specific charges be filed in order to properly mount a defense!

Make Ronnie put up or shut up like he was forced in KBH's indictment!

168 posted on 09/28/2005 12:49:02 PM PDT by Itzlzha ("The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote")
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To: wideawake
Read my prior posts on this issue. I want him to take the prosecutor to the wood shed. I then want him to resign or simply not run for re-election because he is a failure as the Speaker. We are the majority party in Washington, D.C.. If we can't control Federal spending on non-essential, member initiated pork, and if we can't take real action to curb illegal immigration, then we don't deserve to be in power. Since we can't fire every Republican in Congress, then firing the leadership is the next best thing. Now stop being a hypocritical idiot.
169 posted on 09/28/2005 12:49:53 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: marta R
Now if DeLay is found guilty, he should resign from Congress. I also believe that, like every other American, he has the right to have his day in court and be entitled to a fair trial. An indictment is just that - an ALLEGATION of wrong-doing. Its not the same as proof a crime was knowingly committed.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
170 posted on 09/28/2005 12:50:09 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Soul Seeker
Just as I have no use for anyone claiming to represent conservatisism yet taking the opportunity to jump on Delay's back, in so doing serving the interests of Earle, Pelosi, Reid and the Clinton's.

Agreed.

Furthermore, if I see another Republican back down and cower to the Dems when they are getting away with illegal activity, slander, lies, hate speech, character assassination, election fraud and in this case, by all accounts seems as another Rush Limbaugh witch hunt, I'm gonna call every member of congress and yell.

I am so sick of us Pubs sticking our most conservative members in the back when they need us. Sick of it. The Dems stand by their criminals for God's sake. We can't even stand by our innocent people.

171 posted on 09/28/2005 12:50:19 PM PDT by ALWAYSWELDING
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To: FlipWilson
If the dems want to use political prosecution to get back the power that the voters aren't inclined to give them, I say fine. It should be open season on every democrat that is within the jurisdiction of a Republican prosecutor.

Let's go for it.

172 posted on 09/28/2005 12:50:51 PM PDT by GOPJ (When incentives are switched, patterns change. Until then, it's same old, same old.)
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To: demlosers
We will have a link as soon as DeLay's statement is posted. In the interim, that news about going thru the 5 grand juries to finally get a "conspiracy" charge indictment is being parroted all over the news.
173 posted on 09/28/2005 12:51:18 PM PDT by onyx ((Vicksburg, MS) North is a direction. South is a way of life.)
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To: cake_crumb

Membership in the party is not a prerequisite for participating in this forum, Comrade.

Doing what I think is best?????? HA HA HA. That's a laugh. Seeing as he is one of the top dogs in the part of the government that is responsible for budgets and spending and the results that we have with respect to deficits, he's sold conservatives out with the size of the budgets and amount of pork.


174 posted on 09/28/2005 12:51:19 PM PDT by misterrob
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To: wcdukenfield

The MSM will love it though. Plays right into thier plan.


175 posted on 09/28/2005 12:51:30 PM PDT by b4its2late (Forget the health food. I need all the preservatives I can get, so I'm getting pickled!)
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To: Thud
That's exactly why DeLay's attorneys will ask for a change of venue. A partisan prosecutor and a hopelessly tainted jury pool. And the motion will probably be granted.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
176 posted on 09/28/2005 12:52:25 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: misterrob
This isn't about right vs. wrong

Clearly not for you.

177 posted on 09/28/2005 12:52:31 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Barbour/Honore in '08)
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To: cake_crumb

I just read the indictment. Delay is named at the end, almost as an afterthought, of being guilty of having "waived application of articles 12.01 and 12.03 of the Texas code of crimninal procedure to the indictment presented herein."

That part of the indictment is NOT a charge. It is a statement necessary to establish jurisdiction of the court and it says that Delay let them bring the indictment AFTER the deadline (statute of limitations) had expired.


178 posted on 09/28/2005 12:52:44 PM PDT by E.C.I. (Evil Conservative Industries)
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To: Soul Seeker

I can read the thread and I know what it is about. Its about jumping on the Tom Delay bandwagon and defending him at all costs even though he may not be worth the effort.


179 posted on 09/28/2005 12:53:05 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: goldstategop
Its not the same as proof a crime was knowingly committed.

Just remember, "it is not the nature of the evidence but the seriousness of the charge."

180 posted on 09/28/2005 12:53:50 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Cindy Sheehan, Pat Buchanan, John Conyers, and David Duke Are Just Different Sides of the Same Coin.)
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