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Katrina Sends Quake-Leery California Scrambling To Revise Emergency Plans
Yahoo ^ | 9-28-2005

Posted on 09/28/2005 11:47:06 AM PDT by blam

Katrina sends quake-leery California scrambling to revise emergency plans

Wed Sep 28,11:38 AM ET

LOS ANGELES (AFP) - The humanitarian debacle spawned by Hurricane Katrina one month ago has badly shaken Californians and sent their leaders scrambling to update plans to cope with a long-feared catastrophic earthquake.

Seismic experts warn there is a 62 percent chance of the "big one," measuring at least 6.7 on the Richter Scale, hitting San Francisco and a 70 percent chance of Los Angeles being brought to its knees by a quake with a magnitude of at least 7.2 in the next 30 years.

Such a huge temblor in Los Angeles could kill up to 18,000 people, leave 140,000 to 735,000 others homeless and cause more than 250 billion dollars damage to America's second biggest city, the greater metropolitan area of which is home to 17 million people, geologists estimate.

"The big earthquake is an absolute certainty, it's just a question of when," said Lucile Jones, the US Geological Survey's chief scientist in Southern California.

The shambolic operation to rescue and evacuate hundreds of thousands of New Orleans residents from the flood-ruined city following Hurricane Katrina has forced California to review emergency plans and seek funding to improve key defenses, especially levees protecting its central valley from flooding by the sea.

"Katrina and (Hurricane) Rita have caused us to look at evacuation planning because we have never had reason to evacuate thousands of people," Henry Renteria, director of the California governor's Office of Emergency Services, told AFP.

"We have to look at how we would evacuate people, how to communicate with people and at if they need to be evacuated," he said, adding that while plans were constantly updated there were "areas where improvements can be made."

More than 1,100 people are confirmed dead and more than one million were displaced in the wake of Katrina, while Rita left at least 10 dead when it hit the US Gulf Coast last weekend, forcing three million to flee their homes.

The spectre of the death, destruction and mass evacuations has jolted California officials into re-evaluating evacuation plans for their largest cities.

Sprawling Los Angeles is built on a spider's web of quake faultlines that could force hundreds of thousands out of their homes. The southern California city's last major temblor, a magnitude of 6.7, killed 57 people in 1994.

In the northern hub of San Francisco, last hit by a 7.1 magnitude quake in 1989 that killed 63 people, many of the area's 776,000 residents are dependent on two key bridges if they are forced to flee a disaster in the city.

Disaster experts and officials also said they were re-examining how to maintain communications following the "big one" and how to boost coordination between federal, state and local government authorities to avoid the chaos that hampered the rescue effort in New Orleans.

Nervous Californians alarmed at the plight of New Orleans are meanwhile bracing to help themselves in the event of a cataclysm, with local media publishing extensive lists of what to include in family emergency kits.

"People need to take care of themselves," said Bob Anderson, senior engineering geologist for the California Seismic Safety Commission.

"You can be on your own for several days and relying on the federal government to do things is not good enough," he said, calling on citizens to stock up on enough water and non-perishable food to last at least three days.

Disaster expert Susan Tubbesing of the non-profit Earthquake Engineering Research Institute near San Francisco said the Golden State's preparedness for a major quake had been undermined by the US war on terror launched after the September 11, 2001 attacks.

"We have a huge population at risk and there simply hasn't been the resources of either individuals or resources," she said.

"The funds that have come into California since 9/11 have been disproportionately aimed at homeland security so that programmes that we used to have for earthquakes don't exist anymore."

Areas of key concern are ageing buildings, including hospitals and dormitories, across the state and the dykes that protect central California, which supplies two thirds of California's water needs, from the Pacific Ocean.

"We expect to see the failure of the levees in an earthquake," Tubbesing said just weeks after New Orleans levees failed catastrophically. "We are very concerned."

California lawmakers have called for 90 million dollars promised by the federal government to strengthen the levees to be delivered immediately.

But while the most populous US state prepares for the worst, officials and experts said the aftermath of catastrophe or terror attack would be better handled and easier to cope with in disaster-prone California.

"California cities are not in the same situation, we have neighbourhoods that would be affected of course but not a whole city," Renteria said.

"I don't think we would see the same kind of debacle here after a large event," Tubbesing said, pointing out that cooperation between various levels of government was generally good.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: california; emergency; katrina; leery; plans; quake; revise; scrambling; sends

1 posted on 09/28/2005 11:47:11 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

"But while the most populous US state prepares for the worst, officials and experts said the aftermath of catastrophe or terror attack would be better handled and easier to cope with in disaster-prone California"

Like the post "hurricane Rodney" response?

If the big one hits, I would sure hate to be living in Nevada or Arizona, the flood of "affected persons" would quickly overwhelm whatever plans those states might have on hand.

OTOH, it *might not* be like the disaster movies we all see.....


2 posted on 09/28/2005 11:55:00 AM PDT by ASOC (Insert clever tagline here: _______)
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To: ASOC

People are going to have a heck of a time walking over the desert to get out of California, given the likely destruction of roads.


3 posted on 09/28/2005 11:57:25 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: blam

If I lived in a corrupt, Democrat controlled state, I would be worried too.


4 posted on 09/28/2005 11:57:52 AM PDT by neodad (Rule Number 1: Be Armed)
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To: blam
The humanitarian debacle spawned by Hurricane Katrina one month ago has badly shaken Californians and sent their leaders scrambling to update plans to cope with a long-feared catastrophic earthquake.

I missed the debacle. I saw one of the great rescue missions of all time, that had many more ups, than downs.

A "humanitarian debacle" implies a colossal failure of our humanitarian intents. I didn't see that happening here. How many actually died from the failures that DID occur? My guess is not that many of the 1000. How does than number compare to the many THOUSANDS that were saved by our humanitarianism? But then I guess this guy has an article to write, one that will sell..

5 posted on 09/28/2005 12:14:48 PM PDT by Paradox (Just because we are not perfect, does not mean we are not good.)
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To: blam

My sister-in-law lived in soCal during the Cuban Missle crisis when we were on the brink of nuclear war.

Chaos and fear ruled LA. Roads were clogged. Cars overturned or abandoned as people tried to get out of the cities. Food hoarding. Just the usual panic.


6 posted on 09/28/2005 12:16:23 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (ISLAM. The religion of the criminally insane.)
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To: Strategerist
Actually, they will be most likely moved by train, if large numbers are removed - cars wont be able to move on broken roads.

I used to live in Las Vegas (left for good 91, the gangs are running amok) anyway - One of the things we planned for was to leave town, for a while anyway, if the 'big one' hit cali...if you think about it, most of the food & all of the gas go to NV from CA and things would get pretty grim, fast.

There is like, what, 33 million living in SoCal alone - a disaster there would make NO look like a church picnic....

I guess that would hold pretty much true for any big city or population center, like Atlanta, Miami or the like.

At least the piece points up being ready to go on your own for 3 days, tho 3 weeks seems to the the better planning period.

Have fun
7 posted on 09/28/2005 12:16:50 PM PDT by ASOC (Insert clever tagline here: _______)
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To: blam
The lesson of Katrina, to me anyway, was that the plan isn't the problem. The execution of the plan is where the problems arise. Anyone remember the Loma Prieta quake or Northridge? There was some heavy duty damage and death but nobody evacuated the cities.


8 posted on 09/28/2005 12:35:35 PM PDT by siunevada
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To: ASOC
"At least the piece points up being ready to go on your own for 3 days, tho 3 weeks seems to the the better planning period."

I tend to agree with you...although, C-130's, C-5's and C-17's would be dropping supplies by parachute if all else failed.

The people with the guns would be the ones retrieving the supplies though. (troops too I suppose)

9 posted on 09/28/2005 1:55:26 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Huummm

Reminds me of the old Robert Heinlein story about rabbit stew. Who know that in later years they would call this sort of thing 'survivalist' sci-fi.

I would hope that troops would come with any airdropped supplies, but I hear the VHR are pretty good if you can get boiling water.
10 posted on 09/28/2005 2:14:39 PM PDT by ASOC (Insert clever tagline here: _______)
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To: ASOC
"I hear the VHR are pretty good if you can get boiling water."

What are VHR's?

BTW, my son lives in Glendora.

11 posted on 09/28/2005 2:27:21 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Sorry, Vegetarian Humanitarian Rations

Like they dropped in Bosnia and the 'stan. Good eats - really. Enough food for one day in the package and safe for 'anyone' to eat.

Glendora eh? Can they still see anything thru the smog from LA? Couple of years ago we flew to Las Vegas & then drove on over to Camp Pendleton to watch our son graduate from SOI. As soon as we cleared the pass, our eyes watered for two days. Yuk.

OTOH we did get to eat at Sonic, In and Out Burger and an Olive Garden, none of which exist in Alaska.
12 posted on 09/28/2005 2:39:17 PM PDT by ASOC (Insert clever tagline here: _______)
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To: ASOC
Sorry, Vegetarian Humanitarian Rations

This is SoCal we're talking about here.

Just have planes dump seawead and salmon and let 'em eat sushi...

13 posted on 09/28/2005 2:41:37 PM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: dirtboy
LOL
Any tsunami would do that anyway - right?
14 posted on 09/28/2005 2:44:27 PM PDT by ASOC (Insert clever tagline here: _______)
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