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Bush Wants Right To Use Military If Bird Flu Hits
Reuters ^ | 10/4/05

Posted on 10/04/2005 12:02:27 PM PDT by areafiftyone

WASHINGTON, Oct 4 (Reuters) - President George W. Bush asked Congress on Tuesday to consider giving him powers to use the military to enforce quarantines in case of an avian influenza epidemic.

He said the military, and perhaps the National Guard, might be needed to take such a role if the feared H5N1 bird flu virus changes enough to cause widespread human infection.

"If we had an outbreak somewhere in the United States, do we not then quarantine that part of the country? And how do you, then, enforce a quarantine?" Bush asked at a news conference.

"It's one thing to shut down airplanes. It's another thing to prevent people from coming in to get exposed to the avian flu. And who best to be able to effect a quarantine?" Bush added.

"One option is the use of a military that's able to plan and move. So that's why I put it on the table. I think it's an important debate for Congress to have."

Bird flu has killed more than 60 people in four Asian nations since late 2003 and has been found in birds in Russia and Europe.

Experts fear that the H5N1 bird flu virus, which appears to be highly fatal when it infects people, will develop the ability to pass easily from person to person and would cause a pandemic that would kill millions.

"And I think the president ought to have all ... assets on the table to be able to deal with something this significant," Bush said.

He noted that some governors may object to the federal government commandeering the National Guard, which is under state command in most circumstances.

POLICE DUTIES BANNED

"But Congress needs to take a look at circumstances that may need to vest the capacity of the president to move beyond that debate. And one such catastrophe or one such challenge could be an avian flu outbreak," Bush said.

The active duty military is currently forbidden from undertaking law enforcement duties by the federal Posse Comitatus Act.

That law, passed in 1878 after the U.S. Civil War, does not prohibit National Guard troops under state control from doing police work. But, unless the law is changed, it would keep them from doing so if they were activated by Washington under federal control.

While the law allows the president to order the military to take control and do police work in an extreme emergency, the White House has been traditionally reluctant to usurp state powers.

Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman told reporters he was not aware of any current planning by the military to help respond to a flu pandemic.

But he noted that after Hurricanes Katrina and Rita devastated the Gulf region, Bush had asked Congress to consider giving the military control over initial response in dealing with major natural or other domestic disasters.

"Obviously the (Defense) Department has a tremendous amount of capability in a lot of areas. And we are a large force," Whitman said, noting also that the military had deployed field hospitals to Louisiana after the hurricanes.

Health experts are working to develop vaccines that would protect against the H5N1 strain of flu, because current influenza vaccines will not.

And countries are also developing stockpiles of drugs that can reduce the risk of serious disease or even sometimes prevent infection -- but supplies and manufacturing capacity are both limited.

Bush said he was involved in planning for an influenza pandemic, which experts say will definitely come, although they cannot predict when, or whether it will be H5N1 or some other virus. (Additional reporting by Maggie Fox)


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1 posted on 10/04/2005 12:02:29 PM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: areafiftyone

ping for later


2 posted on 10/04/2005 12:07:26 PM PDT by vrwc0915
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To: areafiftyone
Er..Bird Flu?!

Uh huh..

3 posted on 10/04/2005 12:07:35 PM PDT by Windsong (FighterPilot)
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To: areafiftyone

Is it just me, or is our President looking for more and more situations in which the Commander-in-Chief should be allowed to use American military forces on our own soil?


4 posted on 10/04/2005 12:12:49 PM PDT by NJ_gent (Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.)
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To: NJ_gent
Is it just me, or is our President looking for more and more situations in which the Commander-in-Chief should be allowed to use American military forces on our own soil?

I think it's a case of "If you all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail."

5 posted on 10/04/2005 12:14:30 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: areafiftyone
Hooray for martial law! Next question: do you think his new "stealth" nominee for SCOTUS will find that Constitutional? Just wondering...
6 posted on 10/04/2005 12:14:43 PM PDT by Shalom Israel (Pessimist: usually right; sometimes pleasantly surprised.)
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To: NJ_gent

They would be the only ones in a position to enforce needed quarantines. If he is mentioning this now, it is possible.


7 posted on 10/04/2005 12:16:08 PM PDT by A.Hun (The supreme irony of life is that no one gets out of it alive. R. Heinlein)
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To: areafiftyone

Floods
Bird Flu
Sars
Earthquake
Wrong Election Outcome
Terrorists
Ice storm
...


8 posted on 10/04/2005 12:16:14 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: NJ_gent
Is it just me, or is our President looking for more and more situations in which the Commander-in-Chief should be allowed to use American military forces on our own soil?

It ain't just you.

This should be a last-ditch emergency proposal - NG should be used first. A lot more people died from government last century than died in the great flu pandemic.

9 posted on 10/04/2005 12:16:28 PM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: Windsong
Ridiculous....
" Bird flu has killed more than 60 people in four Asian nations since late 2003 and has been found in birds in Russia and Europe."

Let's get some perspective:
How many have died from the 'plain old' flu in this time period?
From Drunk drivers?
From food poisoning?
From an infection after stubbing their toe?

Can we mobilize the military against the citizens if there are mass toe stubbings?
10 posted on 10/04/2005 12:16:43 PM PDT by PissAndVinegar
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To: areafiftyone

I think the President needs to rethink some things. He's going to be explaining this comment and Ms. Miers for the next month.


11 posted on 10/04/2005 12:17:10 PM PDT by linn37 (Have you hugged your Phlebotomist today?)
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To: Shalom Israel

If your kids or wife is dying..along with half a million other Americans in the next pandemic I am "just wondering" what your thoughts will be then.


12 posted on 10/04/2005 12:18:33 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (GO CARDINALS !!)
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To: areafiftyone

We should have quarentined for the aids epidemic.


13 posted on 10/04/2005 12:18:50 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: areafiftyone

Does he know it's coming?


14 posted on 10/04/2005 12:19:02 PM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: glorgau
I think it's a case of "If you all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail."

You mean "more government" isn't the answer to every problem?

15 posted on 10/04/2005 12:19:24 PM PDT by va4me ("Government isn't the solution to the problem, it is the problem" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: NJ_gent

I wonder if it wouldn't be a bit more effective to let the local police do the enforcement and focus on medical preparedness: prevention, treatments, distribution networks and suchlike before we end up with de facto martial law.


16 posted on 10/04/2005 12:20:44 PM PDT by From many - one.
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To: Artemis Webb

Bush: "Trust Me".

Really?


17 posted on 10/04/2005 12:21:12 PM PDT by Jonathan
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To: Windsong
Bird flu is one possible precursor of a pandemic which is a statistically an absolute certainty.

Care to go back in history (you only need to go back to the 1960's) and look at the death tolls?
18 posted on 10/04/2005 12:21:22 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (GO CARDINALS !!)
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To: NJ_gent
Is it just me...

Or does the President just realize that some state governments are completely useless and incapable of responding to a true emergency.

19 posted on 10/04/2005 12:21:38 PM PDT by kaboom
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To: Windsong

Yes bird flu. Read into it, this is not a chicken little event.


20 posted on 10/04/2005 12:22:09 PM PDT by Walkingfeather
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