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French bashing alive and well in parts of America
Daily Times ^ | October 09, 2005

Posted on 10/10/2005 10:41:11 AM PDT by BulletBobCo

Two years after relations between the US and France soured over the Iraq war, French-bashing in America appears alive and well in light of a recent ad campaign by a fast-food chain linking France and cowardice.

The ad by the Subway chain touted a cordon bleu chicken sandwich with the words “France and chicken, somehow it just goes together”. A photo of a chicken dressed like Napoleon accompanied the advertisement.

Subway ran the ads in about 10 US states for nearly a month and pulled them in September following an outcry by members of the French expatriate community and other customers offended by the racist undertone.

Mark Bridenbaker, a spokesman for Subway, which has outlets in France, defended the campaign telling AFP it was aimed at lauding French cuisine.

“The perfect match of French cuisine and the Subway chicken... that was the intent of this advertising,” he said. “But once we realized that people were taking offense, we removed everything from stores right away.”

Others, however, say the ads are evidence French bashing has become well-ingrained and perfectly acceptable among a segment of the American population.

They say that though diplomatic relations are on the mend following the spat over Iraq, and French fries, rather than “freedom fries”, are back on restaurant menus, anti-French sentiment still runs high in parts of the country.

“Saying that the French are dirty or cowards is a little bit like saying the sky is blue. Nobody is going to contest it,” said Denis Chazelle, a long-time French resident of the Washington area who created a web site in March to try and dispell misconceptions about his native country and who led the campaign against the Subway ads.

“I think (French bashing) is worse now than it was two years ago because, although it’s not as relentless as it was, it has become a lot more accepted and part of the landscape,” he added.

Chazelle said had Subway run an ad campagin targetting Mexicans, Israelis or Italians, it would have faced a boycott and management heads would have rolled.

“But if it concerns the French, it’s no big deal,” he said. “People here can say they hate the French without blinking an eye or an afterthought.”

Marc Saint-Aubin du Cormier, another French native who created a website to monitor anti-French sentiment in the United States and Canada, agrees.

“There is a kind of anti-French streak in the background of the culture of America,” he told AFP.

He pointed to several recent examples including comments by a talk show host for the Fox news channel who derided French aid in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

Another Fox commentator lamented a day before the July 7 terrorist attacks in London that the International Olympic Committee had “missed a golden opportunity” because, if France had been selected to host the 2012 Olympics, terrorists would “blow up Paris, and who cares?”

Chazelle and Cormier said one reason such comments largely go unnoticed is because the French expatriate community in the United States is fairly small and has no active lobby groups.

They said though they were heartened by the fact their action against the Subway ads paid off, although they believe they face an uphill battle in changing negative public opinion about France.

“I am not very optimistic,” Chazelle said. “I think French bashing is here to stay.” afp


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: antifrenchhumor; axisofweasels
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To: BulletBobCo

61 posted on 10/10/2005 11:35:52 AM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Nagin Cried, People died.)
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To: mewzilla

62 posted on 10/10/2005 11:38:45 AM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Nagin Cried, People died.)
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To: Dog Gone

Euroweenie


63 posted on 10/10/2005 11:39:09 AM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Nagin Cried, People died.)
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To: BulletBobCo

64 posted on 10/10/2005 11:44:16 AM PDT by metesky (This land was your land, this land is MY land; I bought the rights from a town selectman!)
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To: BulletBobCo
naaaaaaww...

65 posted on 10/10/2005 11:44:28 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: Serb5150
Ok but you might give me credit at the end of the tagline.

I don't insist but it would be nice to get credit.

About a month ago I got through to Mark Levin when he was doing "Maurice the Liberal." After a "Bon jour Maurice, come va tu?" I told him I had a French phrase for him that I would translate for his non-French speaking listerners. I then gave him this tag line. I got a huge laugh and a take care my friend.

Il n'y a pas d'honte être français. Il y a seulement l'honte dans rester de français.
(There is no shame in being French. There is only shame in staying French.)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

66 posted on 10/10/2005 11:44:44 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: BulletBobCo
A photo of a chicken dressed like Napoleon accompanied the advertisement.

Seems to me that the French expatriates overreacted here. Although they associate chickens with cowards and being French, I don't think anyone would describe Napoleon as a coward (he was a lot of things, but not a coward).

More a case of the guilty dogs yelping the loudest.

67 posted on 10/10/2005 11:45:00 AM PDT by DeFault User
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To: pogo101

I don't even mind snobs too much but what I really hate are COWARDS!


68 posted on 10/10/2005 11:46:09 AM PDT by funkywbr
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To: BulletBobCo

Pauvre petite bébé


69 posted on 10/10/2005 11:46:15 AM PDT by Junior (From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
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To: LonePalm
Aha, that's your signature block... Sorry, I thought that might have been lifted from someplace in the original article.

Done.

70 posted on 10/10/2005 11:49:24 AM PDT by Serb5150 (Il n'y a pas d'honte être français. Il y a seulement l'honte dans rester de français. —LonePalm)
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To: BulletBobCo
“I am not very optimistic,” Chazelle said. “I think French bashing is here to stay.”

I, on the other hand, am optimistic, for the same reason.

71 posted on 10/10/2005 11:51:34 AM PDT by southernnorthcarolina (I am easily distrac)
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To: dighton; Dog Gone; Thinkin' Gal; aculeus; general_re; hellinahandcart; Tijeras_Slim; Petronski
Une explanation ...

French buy into 9/11 conspiracy

PARIS, France (CNN) -- Throughout the spring, and into this summer, a leading bestseller in France has not been some great work of French literature but a $17-dollar paperback called the "Horrifying Fraud."

The book casts doubt on the official version of the events of September 11, substituting an elaborate conspiracy concocted by America's military-industrial complex in order to increase U.S. military budgets.

It has sold more than 200,000 copies here -- a huge success in French terms --attracting interest from readers like Eduard Chabanon and Naoufal Lahlou who are sceptical about much of what they are learn from the news.

Lahlou said: "There is always doubt. I haven't seen any proof that shows that man walked on the moon."

72 posted on 10/10/2005 11:53:10 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: BulletBobCo

What's the big deal? The French have hated and discriminated against Americans for at least a generation and no one ever made that a big issue. My revenge? Spend my American dollars at home.


73 posted on 10/10/2005 11:54:38 AM PDT by Bernard Marx (Don't make the mistake of interpreting my Civility as Servility)
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To: BulletBobCo
“Saying that the French are dirty or cowards is a little bit like saying the sky is blue. Nobody is going to contest it,”

Quote of the Day

74 posted on 10/10/2005 11:54:45 AM PDT by JohnnyZ ("I believe abortion should be safe and legal in this country" -- Mitt Romney)
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To: BulletBobCo

If you need another reason to hate France, read:

Vile France: Fear, Duplicity, Cowardice and Cheese
by Denis Boyles

Great book.


75 posted on 10/10/2005 12:12:38 PM PDT by synbad600
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To: BulletBobCo

76 posted on 10/10/2005 12:12:39 PM PDT by Solamente
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To: BulletBobCo
"Subway ran the ads in about 10 US states for nearly a month and pulled them in September following an outcry by members of the French expatriate community and other customers offended by the racist undertone."

And the French and their defenders thus prove themselves not only cowardly, but stupid, to boot. It "might" be offensive (to the French, if no one else), but it certainly isn't "racist".

77 posted on 10/10/2005 12:27:35 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: BulletBobCo

Another good reason to support Subway.

France, chickens and surrender monkeys go together so well.


78 posted on 10/10/2005 12:32:15 PM PDT by kevinm13 (The Main Stream Media is dead! Fox News Channel Rocks!)
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To: jackbenimble

Thank you. Thank you. I posted about this last week, without providing links.

I haven't eaten at a Subway since that story broke, which means that I have to go over 6 miles, and pass two Subway stores, to get to the little pizza joint owned by the Greek guy who hasn't had a day off in 19 yrs., but has a Ph.D son and a West Point grad son. I'm proud to do it.


79 posted on 10/10/2005 12:50:42 PM PDT by ishabibble
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To: Mr. Mojo
"The Frogs are a race?"

I caught that little jewell also.
Screw the Frogs. My family has had no love for the "Mother Country since the mid 17th century when they left due to the Huguenot persecution. Howsome ever that persecution did get us here, so I guess maybe something good did come out of another little shameful episode in Frog history.
80 posted on 10/10/2005 12:51:14 PM PDT by Bar-Face (The Embassy helicopter is warming up.)
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