Evolution debate hits the beer aisle

Deseret News ^ | November 18, 2005 | Jennifer Toomer-Cook

[Junior]

Controversy over teaching evolution in public schools has been bottled up in a most unlikely place — the beer aisle.

Wasatch Beers is changing the label on its 2002 Unofficial Amber Ale — a title that once raised a ruckus with Olympic officials — to "Evolution Amber Ale."

The company says the change is inspired by Utah legislators and the debate here and nationally over whether public school evolution lessons should be balanced with "intelligent design," or the idea that life is too complex to be explained by Darwin's theory of evolution alone.

[untenured]

Are these the guys with the Polygamy Porter?

[willyd]

I see this guy read page 7 of the guide to guerilla marketing.

[Junior]

The CrevoSci Archive Just one of the many services of Darwin Central "The Conspiracy that Cares"

• PatrickHenry's famous List-O-Links
• Webster's On-Line Dictionary:  Creationist

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CrevoSci threads for the past week:

1. 2005-11-19 Evolution debate hits the beer aisle
2. 2005-11-18 Dinosaurs in India may have fed on grass
3. 2005-11-18 Early Earth Likely Had Continents, Was Habitable, According To New Study
4. 2005-11-18 Exhibit on Darwin creates Bush bash at museum gala
5. 2005-11-18 Geneticists claim ageing breakthrough but immortality will have to wait
6. 2005-11-18 Indian Dinosaurs Were Vegetarians
7. 2005-11-18 Intelligent Design: Kansas Teachers Guide
8. 2005-11-18 On the Origin of Evolution
9. 2005-11-18 Quintuple Bond Synthesized
10. 2005-11-18 Study Challenges View on Aging Research [amazing implications]
11. 2005-11-18 The Origin of Speciousness (Darwinism is an intrinsically atheistic theory. If...)
12. 2005-11-18 Vatican Official Refutes Intelligent Design
13. 2005-11-18 Vatican Official Refutes Intelligent Design
14. 2005-11-18 We're not in Kansas anymore (Krauthammer slams Intelligent Design)
15. 2005-11-18 Why intelligent design proponents are wrong.
16. 2005-11-17 Backing out possible, not simple [Dover trial aftermath
17. 2005-11-17 Dung Reveals Dinosaurs Ate Grass
18. 2005-11-17 Gene turn-off makes meek mice fearless
19. 2005-11-17 Is opposition to ID based upon science or politics?
20. 2005-11-17 New York Times Deceives Public About Kansas Definition of Science
21. 2005-11-17 Phony Theory, False Conflict
22. 2005-11-17 Prehistoric Lizard Called Historic Link
23. 2005-11-17 The Flawed Philosophy of Intelligent Design
24. 2005-11-17 The Food You Eat May Change Your Genes For Life
25. 2005-11-16 Defense Attorney's Closing Argument in Dover Evolution Trial
26. 2005-11-16 Federal Science-Education Framework Document Contains Scientific Errors
27. 2005-11-16 NY museum says Darwin's theory never more relevant
28. 2005-11-16 Ultra-sensitive microscope reveals DNA processes
29. 2005-11-15 Biologically-Inspired Micro-Robots. Volume 1. Robots Based on Crickets
30. 2005-11-15 Early Humans Settled India Before Europe, Study Suggests
31. 2005-11-15 'Perception' gene tracked humanity's evolution, scientists say
32. 2005-11-15 'Perception' gene tracked humanity's evolution, scientists say [Locked]
33. 2005-11-15 Stanford Scientists' Discovery of Hormone Offers Hope For Obesity Drug
34. 2005-11-15 The Intrinsic Evil of Evolutionary Humanism
35. 2005-11-15 UW professors: Discovering life on other planets unlikely (Barf!)
36. 2005-11-14 A column about Kansas Science Standards
37. 2005-11-14 Darwin And The Origin Of ….The Racist?
38. 2005-11-14 For Republicans, a debate over the party's design
39. 2005-11-14 THE CATHOLIC CHURCH EMBRACES EVOLUTION!!!!
40. 2005-11-14 THEORY OF DUMB DESIGN MAY EXPLAIN PAT ROBERTSON (Borowitz Report)
41. 2005-11-13 Intelligent Design Grounded in Science
42. 2005-11-13 Intelligent Design, Part 1
43. 2005-11-13 Pope states the universe is a product of an 'intelligent project'
44. 2005-11-13 Santorum: Don't put intelligent design in classroom
45. 2005-11-13 Vietnam study shows bird flu virus mutating - media

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CrevoSci Thread Count, 2005 YTD:  1136

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On This Date in CrevoSci History

1. 2004-11-19 Following Our Noses: A Nobel for Smell (Proof of God in an interesting place)
2. 2004-11-19 Third of Americans Say Evidence Has Supported Darwin's Evolution Theory
3. 2003-11-19 Christian medical students want anti-evolution lectures
4. 2003-11-19 Is The Truth Out There?
5. 2003-11-19 Religion vs. Science; Which came first Creation or Evolution?
6. 2002-11-19 Food for Thought Dietary change was a driving force in human evolution
7. 2002-11-19 Food for Thought Dietary change was a driving force in human evolution
8. 2002-11-19 Scientists and Their Gods: (Science and Christianity: Conflict or Coherence?)
9. 2001-11-19 Starlight and Time

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Longest CrevoSci Thread Ever

• 2002-12-11 Evolution Disclaimer Supported (6,880 replies)

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Lost CrevoSci Battlefields (Pulled or Locked Threads)

1. 2005-11-15 'Perception' gene tracked humanity's evolution, scientists say
2. 2004-04-27 Stop Teaching Our Kids this Evolution Claptrap!
3. 2003-10-29 The Mystery of the Missing Links (Intelligent Design vs. Evolution)
4. 2003-10-27 Physics Nobelist Takes Stand on Evolution
5. 2003-10-23 Gene Found for Obsessive Compulsive Disorder
6. 2003-10-21 Artificial Proteins Assembled from Scratch
7. 2003-09-23 Solar System Formation Questions
8. 2003-09-17 Agreement of the Willing - Free Republic Science Threads
9. 2003-07-18 Unlikely Group May Revive Darwin Debate [Evolution v. Creationism]
10. 2003-07-02 Unlocking the Mystery of 'Unlocking the Mystery of Life'
11. 2003-06-26 Darwin Faces a New Rival
12. 2003-06-06 Amazing Creatures
13. 2002-09-13 Oldest Known Penis Is 100 Million Years Old
14. 2002-04-10 (Creationists) CRSC Correction
15. 2001-08-28 The Ultimate Creation vs. Evolution Resource [6th Revision]
16. 2001-08-26 A Scientific Account of the Origin of Life on Earth [Thread I]
17. 2001-01-13 A Christian Understanding of Intelligent Design
18. 2000-10-10 Another Lost Generation?
19. 2000-08-30 Evil-Ution
20. 1999-11-14 Creationism's Success Past 5 Years: (Gallup: 1 in 10 hold secular evolutionist perspective)

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[Junior]

Ping.

[Coyoteman]

===> Placemarker <===

[RightWingAtheist]

Man, Chris Buttars has a bad case of sandus inhisvaginus

[Forest Keeper]

Wasatch Beers is changing the label on its 2002 Unofficial Amber Ale ... to "Evolution Amber Ale."

In the beer lane, right next to Canada's own "Moose-lem Head"

[PatrickHenry]

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[longshadow]

cheque ur Freepmail

[AdmSmith]

... and here it is

[AdmSmith]

http://www.wasatchbeers.com/store_ts.html

[Junior]

In the heart of Mormon country, no less.

[MineralMan]

I dunno. Cute names on beer generally mean that the beer so-named is lousy crap.

I think I'll pass.

[toddlintown]

Beer and politics don't mix.

[Rudder]

Some people just don't know how to have fun:

But Sen. Chris Buttars, R-West Jordan, isn't laughing. "I guess some people are going to get a chuckle out of it. I don't see anything funny about it," Buttars said. "Anytime someone (tries to) sarcastically exploit issues of morality in those kinds of ways is very unappealing.

What's "moral" about evolution---or intelligent design, for that matter?

[PatrickHenry]

We interrupt this thread to bring you an historic announcement from the office of the Grand Master of Darwin Central:

For achievements which cannot be publicly disclosed, our own longshadow has been inducted into the exclusive and much-esteemed Order of Pond Scum.

Longshadow thus becomes one of the few in our history who have ever been authorized to wear the awe-inspiring, iridescent slime-green sash across the chest at all formal events.

On behalf of the Grand Master, I am,
PatrickHenry

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[Junior]

Indeed. Someone needs to remove the stick from Mr. Buttars' derriere.

[Junior]

Beer and politics don't mix.

Sure they do. The American Revolution was awash in suds. Nearly all the founding fathers drank (heavily by today's standards). The Revolution itself was hatched in heated political discussions in hundreds of pubs throughout the colonies.

America was founded on beer and spirits. Today's politically-correct, bowdlerized version of history whitewashes the importance of alcohol to who we are.