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America's Safest and Most Dangerous Cities
Morgan Quitno Awards ^ | 2005

Posted on 11/21/2005 7:18:39 PM PST by Lorianne

Cities over 500,000:

Safest 10

San Jose, CA El Paso, TX Honolulu, HI New York, NY Austin, TX San Diego, CA Louisville, KY San Antonio, TX Fort Worth, TX Jacksonville, FL

Most Dangerous 10:

Detroit, MI Baltimore, MD Washington, DC Memphis, TN Dallas, TX Philadelphia, PA Columbus, OH Nashville, TN Houston, TX Charlotte, NC


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Political Humor/Cartoons
KEYWORDS: austin; baltimore; charlotte; coleman; columbus; dallas; detroit; elpaso; fortworth; honolulu; houston; humor; jacksonville; louisville; memphis; nashville; newyork; ohio; philadelphia; sanantonio; sandiego; sanjose; washington
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1 posted on 11/21/2005 7:18:40 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne

Based on What?
Seems like a teaser ad to get people to pay for complete report.


2 posted on 11/21/2005 7:23:22 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Rush agrees with me 98.5% of the time!)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Based on the percentage of....


3 posted on 11/21/2005 7:24:46 PM PST by brivette
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To: Lorianne

Supposedly murder rate 63 per 100,000 in Camden NJ ... caompared to 43 per 100,000 in active duty in the military.


4 posted on 11/21/2005 7:24:58 PM PST by BunnySlippers
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To: Lorianne

Doesn't it seem odd that cities like LA, Chicago, and New York are not on this list?


5 posted on 11/21/2005 7:26:00 PM PST by freedom4me (...Error alone needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself.--Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Lorianne
It seems rather odd that Fort Worth is in the safest 10, while Dallas, which is also part of the metroplex, is in the most dangerous 10. Houston is no surprise, as dangerous, nor is Austin a surprise as safest.
6 posted on 11/21/2005 7:26:07 PM PST by Richard Kimball (Tenure is the enemy of excellence.)
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To: brivette
Based on the percentage of....

Hmmm... I do notice some common factors among the safest, and common factors among the unsafest.

7 posted on 11/21/2005 7:28:08 PM PST by D Rider
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To: freedom4me

New York is listed under safest. I suspect that with huge cities, the massive suburbs, with lower crime, tend to cancel out the more crime-ridden inner cities. Of course, I've also known of several cities that quit reporting certain types of crime to lower their crime rate.


8 posted on 11/21/2005 7:28:11 PM PST by Richard Kimball (Tenure is the enemy of excellence.)
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To: Richard Kimball

Thank Terrell Bolton.


9 posted on 11/21/2005 7:28:25 PM PST by Jedidah
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To: Lorianne

Sadly, the ten most dangerous have the most minorities in them....better wise up and listen to Bill Cosby.


10 posted on 11/21/2005 7:30:01 PM PST by DCBryan1
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To: freedom4me
Doesn't it seem odd that cities like LA, Chicago, and New York are not on this list?

Well, thanks to voting Dinkins out of office, there are probably at least 15,000 people that are now alive who wouldn't be, just in NYC alone.

11 posted on 11/21/2005 7:30:44 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Richard Kimball

I'm in Dallas, in a largely Hispanic neighborhood near downtown. What these stats don't tell you is that the violent crime is largely isolated to certain areas and ethnic groups. I've lived here for six years in a restored historic neighborhood, and the only crime I've ever experienced is theft of plant pots off the porch. But every weekend, I can sit outside and hear the gunshots and squealing tires from the Hispanic nightclub two blocks away. I've often wondered why people jam a club every weekend when it's almost guaranteed that someone will get knifed or shot there. Personally, I'd probably decide to go to a movie or something instead.


12 posted on 11/21/2005 7:31:00 PM PST by HHFi
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To: Lorianne

Charlotte? really?


13 posted on 11/21/2005 7:31:43 PM PST by Hildy
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran; Eaker; humblegunner; TEXASPROUD

Oh yeah .....El Paso, San Antonio and Austin ???

LMAO !

I'll add humor to key words.....


14 posted on 11/21/2005 7:31:50 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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Baltimore here... actually county... but I NEVER go to the city, except when my daughter preforms in the Moscow Ballet Nutcracker (her 6th year)


15 posted on 11/21/2005 7:31:58 PM PST by VastRWCon
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To: Lorianne
El Paso being the second safest big city in America is interesting. It is about 85% Hispanic. I wish I could remember the name of the poster from El Paso, but I cannot.
16 posted on 11/21/2005 7:34:46 PM PST by Torie
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To: Lorianne

There is a Zoo inside the Baltimore Zoo, I drive around it everyday. The fence is called the Baltimore Beltway and all the animals live inside its borders. I don't feed them but they constantly ask for handouts.


17 posted on 11/21/2005 7:37:50 PM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: Jedidah
A friend of mine worked for Dallas Fire, which used to be known as one of the best fire departments in the state. He said that politically correct hiring and mis-management had totally destroyed the effectiveness of the department. He told me about Assistant Chiefs who had to come up with a new program as part of their annual review to get a salary increase, and that there were something like twenty or thirty new programs started annually. None of them actually got off the ground, but they were "implemented" and supposedly being carried out, although they served no useful purpose.

I live south of Waco, and mismanagement in Dallas is legendary, as is the incompetence of mayor Laura Miller and the council. When the Dallas Cowboys started negotiations to move back to Dallas into Fair Park, I said "it's never gonna happen. Dallas will never get it's act together enough to put a decent proposal on the table. The Cowboys will end up in Arlington." Sure enough, Laura Miller (applauded by the communists at Texas Monthly) laid down the law to Jerry Jones, and they basically told him he'd be paying for renovation of the entire crime ridden Fair Park area, in exchange for which, they'd also let him renovate the Cotton Bowl.

Jones is moving to Arlington, which now houses the Texas Rangers and the original Six Flags.

Bolton is simply another example of what happens when liberals get control of cities.

18 posted on 11/21/2005 7:38:17 PM PST by Richard Kimball (Tenure is the enemy of excellence.)
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To: Victoria Delsoul

New Jersey ping . . . don't ever go to Camden if you value your life!


19 posted on 11/21/2005 7:38:24 PM PST by Alberta's Child (What it all boils down to is that no one's really got it figured out just yet.)
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To: Richard Kimball

New York is MUCH safer than it was in the Dinkins era and before. I'm not surprised at all to find it on the list of safest cities. Thank you, Rudy Giuliani.


20 posted on 11/21/2005 7:39:21 PM PST by joylyn
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To: Lorianne

CAREFUL. This story has already been pulled at least once today.


21 posted on 11/21/2005 7:40:12 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: Lorianne

Memphis TN, no surprise here. Thug city.


22 posted on 11/21/2005 7:41:00 PM PST by Sybeck1 (chance is the “magic wand to make not only rabbits but entire universes appear out of nothing.”)
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To: joylyn

New York's rebirth could serve as an example to many cities. Put criminals in jail, and leave law-abiding people alone. Seems to work.


23 posted on 11/21/2005 7:41:01 PM PST by Richard Kimball (Tenure is the enemy of excellence.)
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To: Lorianne

Anti-gun lobby alert!@!


24 posted on 11/21/2005 7:42:22 PM PST by dila813
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To: Richard Kimball

I live a stone's throw from where the new Cowboys Stadium will stand, and I think it's pitiful that Dallas didn't work with Jones to put the Cowboys back in Fair Park. Roads and parking are already there, and what an opportunity to clean up that part of the city!

Now, with Texas/OU ready to pull out of Dallas, they're talking about spending a fortune to renovate the decrepit Cotton Bowl for a couple of games a year.

Stupid.


26 posted on 11/21/2005 7:44:11 PM PST by Jedidah
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To: DCBryan1

Is Nashville Tenn. a large minority city? I never really thought of it as one.


27 posted on 11/21/2005 7:45:50 PM PST by onja ("The government of England is a limited mockery." (France is a complete mockery.)
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To: Torie

I lived in El paso for 17 years, moving to Charlotte in 2001. Property crimes are very high in El Paso, but murders, shootings, and home invasions are an epedemic in Charlotte. P>S> many of the victims here are Hispanic; lot's of black on brown crime.


28 posted on 11/21/2005 7:46:33 PM PST by csmusaret (Urban Sprawl is an oxymoron)
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To: Richard Kimball

El Paso surprised me.


29 posted on 11/21/2005 7:46:48 PM PST by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: Lorianne; prouddvldog

LOL. My Marine kept telling me that he was safer in Afghanistan than I was in Memphis last year.


30 posted on 11/21/2005 7:47:10 PM PST by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghanistan Honor Roll students.)
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To: Richard Kimball

San Antonio the most safe?


31 posted on 11/21/2005 7:49:30 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII MOM -- Istook for OK Governor in 2006!)
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To: HHFi

Where are you located? I'm about 3 blocks from the Whole Foods on Greenville Ave, and about 3 blocks from where the DPD officer was shot and killed the week before last.


32 posted on 11/21/2005 7:50:08 PM PST by kildak
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To: Lorianne

Dallas sucks. I was raised there. The city gov't. sucks and everything about it sucks. I moved to Tarrant Co. (Ft. Worth, etc.) as soon as I could drive. I still have to go to Dallas, but only when I HAVE to go to Dallas. It's a racist (by minorities) city, and I'd never recommend any business or family move there. It is as good as lost. The suburbs are filling up. I'm moving to the country as soon as I can. Socialism sucks, too, obviously.


33 posted on 11/21/2005 7:51:00 PM PST by manic4organic (We won. Get over it.)
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To: onja; Common Tator

Nashville and Columbus must have grown big enough as metro areas to develop dysfunctional ghettos within city limits that are a considerable percentage of the population, that neither city has effectively coped with, is my guess. I am surprised about Columbus.


34 posted on 11/21/2005 7:52:10 PM PST by Torie
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To: Lorianne

Wow! I'm sure I'm not the only one who noticed the predominance of Wisconsin in the safest metro areas. Seven of the overall safest 15 metro areas are, according to this study, in mid-Wisconsin, in a pattern kinda-sorta-almost centered around Lake Winnebago. Makes a man (especially a man who wants his family to be safe) think.


35 posted on 11/21/2005 7:53:00 PM PST by Jubal Harshaw
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To: PhiKapMom; sinkspur; deport; Dog Gone

As a first crude cut at it, it appears that Texan Hipanics are pretty law abiding.


36 posted on 11/21/2005 7:53:36 PM PST by Torie
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To: Alberta's Child
...don't ever go to Camden if you value your life!

I won't even go to the safest cities because I value my life, ROTFLOL!

37 posted on 11/21/2005 7:57:02 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Jubal Harshaw

I didn't know mid Wisconsin had any metropolitan areas. LOL.


38 posted on 11/21/2005 8:01:35 PM PST by Torie
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To: southernnorthcarolina

Trouble in Charlotte.


39 posted on 11/21/2005 8:02:51 PM PST by Torie
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To: Lorianne

So Fort Worth is safe and Dallas is dangerous? Should I build a house on the county line so I have a fighting chance?!


40 posted on 11/21/2005 8:06:15 PM PST by Americanchild
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To: Victoria Delsoul
LOL!

Calgary might be worth a shot, though. ;-)

41 posted on 11/21/2005 8:07:00 PM PST by Alberta's Child (What it all boils down to is that no one's really got it figured out just yet.)
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To: Alberta's Child

I agree.


42 posted on 11/21/2005 8:09:20 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Americanchild

Its Dallas city, not county. Unless big cities as the metro areas grow have amenities that attract the Yuppies and the gentry, who can afford private schools, they tend to deteriorate as folks move outside the city limits. They tend to become parking lots for the underclass.


43 posted on 11/21/2005 8:09:40 PM PST by Torie
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To: Torie

Lucky me. I get to go to the city ( Dallas) every day! </sarcasm>


44 posted on 11/21/2005 8:16:40 PM PST by Americanchild
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To: Lorianne

Columbus, OH being on the 10 worst list will be usable by Blackwell against the dem running (mayor of Columbus)... Coleman.


45 posted on 11/21/2005 8:23:17 PM PST by kpp_kpp
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To: onja

The problem in Nashville is the idjit police chief who is the mayor's "boy". Has the cops spending all their time writing traffic tickets to produce revenue instead of doing the real job.

I always post under my real name and the idjit mayor is one of my neighbors, but somehow I don't think he'll see it on FreeRepublic.


46 posted on 11/21/2005 8:24:30 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: Richard Kimball
New York is listed under safest. I suspect that with huge cities, the massive suburbs, with lower crime, tend to cancel out the more crime-ridden inner cities.

This list is not of "metropolitan areas" (which would include outer suburbs). It's just of the cities themselves which in the case of New York means just the 5 boroughs of New York City.

47 posted on 11/21/2005 8:31:35 PM PST by saquin
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To: Alberta's Child

I drove through Camden a couple of years ago,looked like the worst part of Detroit all over.


48 posted on 11/21/2005 8:31:40 PM PST by Farmer Dean (Every time a toilet flushes,another liberal gets his brains.)
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To: Americanchild
So Fort Worth is safe and Dallas is dangerous? Should I build a house on the county line so I have a fighting chance?!

This is not counties or metropolitan areas including outer suburbs... it's just cities and their per capita crime rates.

49 posted on 11/21/2005 8:33:29 PM PST by saquin
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To: Torie; HuntsvilleTxVeteran
Trouble in Charlotte.

True to an extent, Torie. I'm a big advocate of the exurbs; living 20 miles or so from the center of Charlotte, and outside the confines of Mecklenburg County, I'm able to enjoy the city attractions when I wish, whilst living in a low-tax, low-crime, good school, and overwhelmingly Republican environment. As I say on the NCFR board from time to time, GOOM (Get Out Of Mecklenburg).

That said, I'm highly skeptical of Charlotte's position in the top ten of the "most dangerous" list. Many statistical red flags. As HuntvilleTxVet noted, "most dangerous" isn't defined on the information freely available; perhaps it is if you pay. Only 32 cities with a population exceeding 500,000? I don't think so! And then, of course, you run into the old demographical/statistical problem of where the lines between cities and suburbs are drawn. Are the "most dangerous" stats based on city limits, or on some other measure of what constitutes the "center city"? And that's just for starters. Bah.

50 posted on 11/21/2005 8:40:48 PM PST by southernnorthcarolina (I've upped my standards! Up yours!)
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