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America's Safest and Most Dangerous Cities
Morgan Quitno Awards ^ | 2005

Posted on 11/21/2005 7:18:39 PM PST by Lorianne

Cities over 500,000:

Safest 10

San Jose, CA El Paso, TX Honolulu, HI New York, NY Austin, TX San Diego, CA Louisville, KY San Antonio, TX Fort Worth, TX Jacksonville, FL

Most Dangerous 10:

Detroit, MI Baltimore, MD Washington, DC Memphis, TN Dallas, TX Philadelphia, PA Columbus, OH Nashville, TN Houston, TX Charlotte, NC


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To: Victoria Delsoul
LOL!

Calgary might be worth a shot, though. ;-)

41 posted on 11/21/2005 8:07:00 PM PST by Alberta's Child (What it all boils down to is that no one's really got it figured out just yet.)
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To: Alberta's Child

I agree.


42 posted on 11/21/2005 8:09:20 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Americanchild

Its Dallas city, not county. Unless big cities as the metro areas grow have amenities that attract the Yuppies and the gentry, who can afford private schools, they tend to deteriorate as folks move outside the city limits. They tend to become parking lots for the underclass.


43 posted on 11/21/2005 8:09:40 PM PST by Torie
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To: Torie

Lucky me. I get to go to the city ( Dallas) every day! </sarcasm>


44 posted on 11/21/2005 8:16:40 PM PST by Americanchild
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To: Lorianne

Columbus, OH being on the 10 worst list will be usable by Blackwell against the dem running (mayor of Columbus)... Coleman.


45 posted on 11/21/2005 8:23:17 PM PST by kpp_kpp
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To: onja

The problem in Nashville is the idjit police chief who is the mayor's "boy". Has the cops spending all their time writing traffic tickets to produce revenue instead of doing the real job.

I always post under my real name and the idjit mayor is one of my neighbors, but somehow I don't think he'll see it on FreeRepublic.


46 posted on 11/21/2005 8:24:30 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: Richard Kimball
New York is listed under safest. I suspect that with huge cities, the massive suburbs, with lower crime, tend to cancel out the more crime-ridden inner cities.

This list is not of "metropolitan areas" (which would include outer suburbs). It's just of the cities themselves which in the case of New York means just the 5 boroughs of New York City.

47 posted on 11/21/2005 8:31:35 PM PST by saquin
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To: Alberta's Child

I drove through Camden a couple of years ago,looked like the worst part of Detroit all over.


48 posted on 11/21/2005 8:31:40 PM PST by Farmer Dean (Every time a toilet flushes,another liberal gets his brains.)
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To: Americanchild
So Fort Worth is safe and Dallas is dangerous? Should I build a house on the county line so I have a fighting chance?!

This is not counties or metropolitan areas including outer suburbs... it's just cities and their per capita crime rates.

49 posted on 11/21/2005 8:33:29 PM PST by saquin
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To: Torie; HuntsvilleTxVeteran
Trouble in Charlotte.

True to an extent, Torie. I'm a big advocate of the exurbs; living 20 miles or so from the center of Charlotte, and outside the confines of Mecklenburg County, I'm able to enjoy the city attractions when I wish, whilst living in a low-tax, low-crime, good school, and overwhelmingly Republican environment. As I say on the NCFR board from time to time, GOOM (Get Out Of Mecklenburg).

That said, I'm highly skeptical of Charlotte's position in the top ten of the "most dangerous" list. Many statistical red flags. As HuntvilleTxVet noted, "most dangerous" isn't defined on the information freely available; perhaps it is if you pay. Only 32 cities with a population exceeding 500,000? I don't think so! And then, of course, you run into the old demographical/statistical problem of where the lines between cities and suburbs are drawn. Are the "most dangerous" stats based on city limits, or on some other measure of what constitutes the "center city"? And that's just for starters. Bah.

50 posted on 11/21/2005 8:40:48 PM PST by southernnorthcarolina (I've upped my standards! Up yours!)
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To: Americanchild

I don't think this survey counts the 20 miles of suburbs (Arlington, Irving, etc.) that separate Dallas city limits from Fort Worth city limits.

In other words, it's Dallas City vs. the City of Fort Worth, not Dallas County vs. Tarrant County.


51 posted on 11/21/2005 8:42:22 PM PST by Sam Spade
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To: southernnorthcarolina

Thanks for the note. Without looking it up, I suspect there are only 32 cities with populations over 500,000. Of course where the lines are drawn matters. It helps LA, which lines are oddly drawn, which a huge bias to the west. But of course there is more. Some inner cities are a happening place, and some are not, and just dangerous.


52 posted on 11/21/2005 8:44:06 PM PST by Torie
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To: Americanchild
I lived in Dallas for 3 months and left cause it was too dangerous.
53 posted on 11/21/2005 8:48:10 PM PST by CAWats (People that are easily angered are easily frightened)
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To: southernnorthcarolina
Yes, only 32. Cleveland doesn't make the cut. So many of these cities are depopulated.
54 posted on 11/21/2005 8:49:19 PM PST by Torie
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To: Torie

As a long-time former resident of inner-city Houston (the Hispanic area), there is a certain amount of crime in these areas, just not as much as in the black inner-city neighborhoods.

But there is also a good respect for law and order, especially among the US Hispanic citizens, less so among the illegals, but there is still some there (maybe fear of the law). Also, everyone in the Hispanic barrio owns a gun (New Year's Eve sounds like the American army invading Berlin). And there is a strong amount of private development going on.

In fact, Dallas and Houston are really the only two Texas cities with any inner-city black population. Could explain part of the difference (without wanting to sound sort of racist)


55 posted on 11/21/2005 8:51:26 PM PST by Sam Spade
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To: freedom4me

N.Y.C. has one of THE lowest murder and crime rates, since Ruddy took over.


56 posted on 11/21/2005 8:52:54 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Lorianne

Detroit has over 500,000???


57 posted on 11/21/2005 8:54:25 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Sam Spade

Yes it does, and I suspect frankly that San Antonio and El Paso have fewer illegals than many places. There simply is too much Hispanic competition already there, and there are more profitable areas for hard working illegals to mine willing to work for relatively low wages. Just a wild guess on my part.


58 posted on 11/21/2005 8:54:26 PM PST by Torie
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To: Richard Kimball
The suburbs are not included in N.Y.C, stats; NEVER! New York City is made up of five boroughs: Manhattan, The Bronx, Brooklyn, Queens, and Staten Island.
59 posted on 11/21/2005 8:54:57 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Lancey Howard

Detroit once had close to two million residents. Cleveland had 900,000.


60 posted on 11/21/2005 8:55:28 PM PST by Torie
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