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Guns, Gun Ownership, & RTC at All-Time Highs, Less "Gun Control," and Violent Crime at 30-Year Low
NRA-ILA ^ | 11/1/2005 | NA

Posted on 11/30/2005 8:25:06 PM PST by neverdem

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Concealed-carry laws change today (NM) Watch out for Bill Richardson and Mark Warner (VA) in 2008.
1 posted on 11/30/2005 8:25:08 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Imagine that! More guns, less Crime. Hey, that would make a good title for a book.

Conservatives were right again. What else is new?


2 posted on 11/30/2005 8:33:38 PM PST by R.W.Ratikal
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To: neverdem

haha...I was in New Mexico in 2001. Listening to the radio, I heard then-mayor Baca (?) rail against concealed carry.


3 posted on 11/30/2005 8:40:02 PM PST by rudy45
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I think some folks will appreciate those referenced statistics.

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4 posted on 11/30/2005 9:31:00 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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good news. now we have to work on getting the other 12 states to get ccw laws.


5 posted on 11/30/2005 9:54:53 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: neverdem

We love the NRA.


6 posted on 12/01/2005 1:36:14 AM PST by MarMema (http://www.curenikolette.org/)
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To: MarMema

Amen to that.

They get it done.

By the way, the timing of the article is for Wisconsin.


7 posted on 12/01/2005 5:12:49 AM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems. NRA)
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To: Shooter 2.5
By the way, the timing of the article is for Wisconsin.

Things are rockin'-n-rollin' here. I'm starting to get pretty optimistic about our chances here.

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8 posted on 12/01/2005 5:21:12 AM PST by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) Support Zien's PPA/CCW bill in Wisconsin.)
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To: neverdem
"I agree with the law, but if I feel I need a gun I'll just carry it where people can see it."

When I passed through New Mexico back in 1982 I saw a lot of people carrying openly – but I stayed away from the large cities (are there any in NM?) and stayed with the small towns.
9 posted on 12/01/2005 5:25:54 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: neverdem

Dear BATFE,

I have a bottle of scotch, a .308 and two packs of Marlboro's. Should I use tnt or c4?


10 posted on 12/01/2005 5:41:19 AM PST by KarinG1 (Some of us are trying to engage in philosophical discourse. Please don't allow us to interrupt you.)
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To: neverdem

It seems like Rita had a hand in increasing gun ownership.


11 posted on 12/01/2005 5:55:40 AM PST by stevio (Red-Blooded American Male (NRA))
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To: Coleus
good news. now we have to work on getting the other 12 states to get ccw laws.

Or we could just bear our arms as we please, as our Constitution tells us we can.

We don't need to start asking more state governments to give us permission to carry our weapons.

12 posted on 12/01/2005 6:19:44 AM PST by BostonianRightist ("Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue." ~ Senator Goldwater)
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Or we could just bear our arms as we please, as our Constitution tells us we can >>

hey, I agree with you but that's not the reality of the issue today, and now I publicly challenge you to go to NYC with your rifle in tow and walk with it down Broadway and see how you convince the NYPD and judge on your constitutional rights and the right to carry. Don't forget to report back here from Rikers Island with your report.
13 posted on 12/01/2005 8:45:16 AM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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When I passed through New Mexico back in 1982 I saw a lot of people carrying openly

The great State of NM has no problem with open carry, I lived in ABQ for several years in the 90's. As long as you check your guns and knives at the bars and Walmart you're OK.

The difference is with the RTC it doesn't have to be visible anymore. I seem to recall that one has to take an approved course of instruction at a cost of $150-200 bucks or so.

14 posted on 12/01/2005 8:55:22 AM PST by Cliff Dweller ("get thar fustest with the mostest." GEN NB Forrest)
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To: Coleus

Unfortunately you're right.

I am going to Broadway this saturday, but I live in MA where we don't have the right to own firearms. So i'll go rifleless in Manhattan (keeping a hand on my knife and wallet, with a vigilant eye on everyone around me).


15 posted on 12/01/2005 9:23:36 AM PST by BostonianRightist ("Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue." ~ Senator Goldwater)
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To: BostonianRightist

Enjoy the city and be safe..

It's too bad America isn't the way it used to be.


16 posted on 12/01/2005 9:30:00 AM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: neverdem

Good point. Gun control advocates, though well-intentioned, are hopeless naive. If someone is willing to disregard laws against murder, sexual assult, and robbery, they're not going to observe gun laws. But a criminal is far less likely to attack someone if they suspect that person has a gun.


17 posted on 12/01/2005 9:32:20 AM PST by Clintonfatigued (Sam Alito Deserves To Be Confirmed)
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To: R.W.Ratikal
Imagine that! More guns, less Crime. Hey, that would make a good title for a book.

Makes perfect sense to me. Criminals don't want to get shot.

Conservatives were right again. What else is new?

Yes, but no. Lest we never forget that 'Facts are to liberals as light/holy water/garlic is to vampires'. They will never let facts get in the way of whatever stupid crusade they happen to be on at the time. They will revise these facts to something like the following that suits their moron brigade:

"Gun ownership is at a 30-year high, and gun crimes in Chicago (for example) are at a 100 year high"
18 posted on 12/01/2005 10:17:22 AM PST by proud_yank (Experience Tolerance: tell a liberal you own guns and drive an SUV!)
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To: neverdem

bump


19 posted on 12/01/2005 10:28:47 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: Clintonfatigued

IMHO, the entire 'gun control' debate is pretty lame. These people, some well-intentioned, many insanely radical, make so many screams against gun ownership b/c:

"Guns are used to kill people"
"guns were originally made to kill people"
"Guns provide the means by which people kill"
"Gun accidents kill innocent people and children"

Hence, they should be banned or regulated. Point out to them that far more people are murdered by other means than guns, i.e. stabbing, beaten to death (fists, bat, stick, etc), so we should therefore regulate or ban baseball bats and knives?

And they still come back around to defend their stance on gun control, when guns aren't even the most common killer. Funny, I guess murder with a gun is worse than murder with a knife?


20 posted on 12/01/2005 10:36:25 AM PST by proud_yank (Experience Tolerance: tell a liberal you own guns and drive an SUV!)
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