Posted on 12/06/2005 10:10:44 PM PST by CarrotAndStick
Your heart is in the right place but your knowledge of human nature and economics is naive. What you describe is the market working but you try to use those results to debunk the market. Pay attention to what you are saying and the implications thereof.
Only paint by the numbers jobs. I guarantee you that if you can come into a situation and add significant value through analysis and, nost importantly, clear communication skills, you will never lose a job.
Indians do good technical work but it is all by rote. It is not that they aren't good analysts -- they are -- but the combination of communicating clearly and colloquially and coming up with creative solutions is a summit that few can reach.
Programming is paint by numbers. So is phone support.
More economic bleeding!! Thanks for the post.
Riiiighttttt!!! Just peanuts. And all R&D jobs are filled by illegal aliens from Mexico.
Justifying is one thing - outright trashing of anyone's common sense is quite another. Don't bother.
Sure, I would be happy to.
How long do you think it will be before these foreign countries impose the same regulations on the corporations as America does? It will eventually happen.
Not necessarily. To assume you know what they would do is naive. However, even if they do the corporations are no worse off and can come back home if that is better.
....we have to insist that our corporations produce quality products so that people don't get injured and sue.
Sounds as if you think corporations purposely build faulty products in order to hurt people and that if we raise a little Hell they will stop. The best way to make them stop is to stop buying the product.
Love Canal, Ralph Nader's "Unsafe at Any Speed", etc., were just leftists hysteronics and media balleyhoo designed to get laws passed to handicap American industry while expanding government regulation and control and making lawyers lots of money to share with Democrats.
If there are abuses they have to be resolved but you don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
Let's all just sit down and reason together and sing kumbaya.
If our economy is severely hurt by this outsourcing then tariffs and other regulation would have to be imposed to equal the playing field.
That just imposes protectionism, much like unions impose work rules while eliminating competition, and nullifys the need to change. Do you truly think that it is OK for government to tell companies who can and who cannot do their work. Part of the regulation burden at the moment is caused by the government's mandating affirmative action for various groups.
Be assured that pure capitalism does not work.
How do you know? We haven't had that in a long, long, time if ever. We do know that even the handicapped version we have is far better than Socialism or Communism, both of which are demostrated failures. We became the most powerful economy in history following free enterprise.
We need only enough government involvement to enforce free enterprise not modify it. Hinsight shows that John D. Rockefeller actually kept prices down with his integrated oil company rather than taking advantage of his momopoly.
I agree that you have some good points and that I am being a little strict in my interpretation of your remarks but I do that to make my point.
No, there was no "argument" to be put forth here.
However, I do not do business with any company that sends jobs overseas.
My business doesn't and I just wanted to make sure that when I was dealing with an American Company that I was dealing with an AMERICAN company and not some mongoloid hybrid that uses substandard workers from overseas that give poor to crappy service at best.
I'd call an complain, but I'd only get someone in India!!!
Who you need to call is the corporate office. Express your displeasure there.
Also, so long as people keep buying their computers, they will keep doing this. Unless you hit HP in the pocket book they won't pay attention to you.
One person can't do it all, but one person can do something.
I refuse to do business with any company that outsources their jobs to India. It's obvious to me they don't need my business.
Hmmm....trashing commonsense? In what way?
Do you have a bigger/better point to make as opposed to emotional outbursts?
It is good for US companies (technology ones) to invest in India. It beats investing hundreds of Billions in Red China or the Middle East.
I agree with you 100% too!!
My own experience has been somewhat bad. More training and development of professionalism within Indian workforce will be needed to keep this trend work in the long term.
Some companies are really rushing to turn up operations as opposed to go through the trouble of hiring right and training to be successful for the long term.
There is not a single problem I saw with education that was investment related. Average public school spends thousands of dollars per kid per year. It has to do with the culture of education and the role of parents, society, teachers and the kids.
Yes, I will have zero problem with growing jobs here in the US. But, technology educated workforce is small. So, there are only two choices: 1) Import immigrants (companies did this in the 90s) and 2) Export jobs to where the technology workforce exists (this decade is seeing this happen).
Agree? Disagree? Other thoughts?
I am sure you meant "may the best person win". :-)
Life exists on the principle of "Survival of the Fittest". For humans, it means Capable - mentally or physically. So, you are exactly right.
and out of the other side of his mouth, Barrett is complaining that not enough US college kids go in for engineering. its laughable, I don't know how these people even keep a straight face.
the US IT industry isn't "dying" because of regulation, litigation, or labor unions.
Do you know that the US unemployment is going down and is around 5% even with all this fervor about outsourcing? More jobs are being created in the US (net). It may be worth pondering about jobs going to Red China in the interest of moral principles and national security.
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