The most corrupt Administration in US history??

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[GodfearingTexan]

Please forgive me, but I need some assistance. I had lunch recently with a close family member who insisted that President Bush is leading the most corrupt admin in history. I countered that it wasn't, that in fact Clinton had easily a more corrupt admin and had more people indicted than any other. He replied, no, that was Nixon. I honestly just don't have time to research all of this, and I know that there are people on here that either know the answer off the top of their heads or can tell me exactly where I can look it up.

[I. M. Trenchant]

Many thanks for your kind words. Merry Christmas to you both.

[I. M. Trenchant]

One of the least understood aspects of the Nixon Presidency is that the Christmas Bombing of December, 1972, after Nixon had been re-elected with what is still the largest majority in the history of U.S. presidential elections (more than 13 million votes) led his badly beaten enemies to realize that Nixon meant what he said: he would continue, as necessary, to use U.S. air power to sustain a viable Korea type stalement between North and South Vietnam. This, together with the sort of sanctimonious prattle of the likes of middie led to an unprecedented, concerted assault by Congress and the media on the presidency -- one that coincided with the budget-minded concerns of a broad spectrum of the U.S. population and nullified the election result. To McGovern's everlasting credit, he finally said, in the summer of 2004, that the result of the election would have turned out no differently even if White House involvement in the Watergate burglary had been revealed in the middle of the 1972 election. Plainly, and simply, when Mitchell was moved out of the White House in the wake of the Watergate burglary, that was as far as Nixon was prepared to go in conceding the guilt of his friend John Mitchell for what had happened [Even at the time, those of us who were savvy in the ways of Washington had a strong inkling that this was a tacit admission of the guilt of CREEP, and in particular of John Mitchell, in connection with this silly bungled exercize in futility].

This being the case, the fuss over Watergate, which made Woodward far wealthier than Nixon ever dreamed of being, was the most lucrative exercize in Stawmanology that any journalist ever pulled off in world history. Worthy of a Barnum & Bailey world! It is no coincidence that the film, The Sting, won the Hollywood Oscar in the same year that Watergate occupied the headlines. When Redford later played the sanctimonious Woodward in another Hollywood effort, All The President's Men, I was surprised that no reviewer of the latter film ever mentioned that Redford's earlier role in The Sting came closer to capturing Woodward's character than did his role in All The President's Men. What I cannot understand is why the Justice Department has not indicted Woodward for having obstructed justice (and contributing to injustice) by shielding the identity of Deep Throat, who was, after all, the 2IC at the FBI and had grievously betrayed his oath to his agency and to his country. There shouldn't be a statute of limitations on treason or of Woodward's faciltation of it. As Ben Stein noted when Deep Throat outed himself, Felt and Woodward bear heavy responsibility for the pointless waste of the lives of 6 million Indochinese (including the 3 million Cambodians whose fate was left to the tender mercies of Pol Pot) when they destroyed a presidency that would have redeemed the enormous loss-of-life by achieving a viable South Korea type democracy in South Vietnam. Thanks for your supporting remarks. Merry Christmas.

[liberallarry]

I cannot imagine that the Founders meant the clear intent of a state's vote to be voided because of a minor paperwork error.

They were the founding fathers...

...and it appears they wasted no time in getting down to the real business of politics - searching for partisan advantage, blaming the other guy for everything which goes wrong, and arguing about everything.

That's why I referred to that disagreement on this thread.

[LaineyDee]

Oh please.... the SIL I spoke of knows we love her dearly... but she's learned not to jump into a very lively political discussion... then try to defend Clinton over Bush. She got idealogically "spanked"... but good. They weren't hateful...but tore her points apart. I saw her drowning and pulled her away.....suggesting that she browse the site here and read a few books. We all enjoy lively debates... and if you have to play "PC" and not let your hair down around family.... you sure wouldn't fit in the fold. So.....you keep yours and I'll keep mine. K?*chuckle*

[timestax]

bttt

[CyberAnt]

Excuse me .. I lied ..?? About what ..??

And .. since you just arrived at FR a couple of days ago - I'd say you are here for only one purpose - and that's to stir up trouble. It won't work!

Go take a flying leap back to DU where I'm confident you'll be much happier calling people "liar".

[Paulus Invictus]

Corrupt. Here are some interesting synonyms: Corrupt people are those believed to be evil, depraved, perverted, debauched, defiled, tainted, stained. They are the type that undermine, impair, damage, abuse, mistreat, dishonor, violate, disgrace, violate, and cause the nation to degenerate. Golly! These all fit Clinton to a T. But so do many of the terms fit LBJ. A few fit Nixon too. Carter gets several after his name. So does JFK, not to mention FDR. Among RATs, it's hard to chose anyone worse.

[Inkie]

Clinton's admin is the gift that keeps on giving -- to whit, Sandy Berger's pants-stuffing only a short while ago.

[higgmeister]

...he was among the most gifted and successful of all U.S. presidents, and will be so-judged by history...

I am still proud that the first President I voted for was Nixon.

I am also proud that my 87 year old Grandmother attempted
to attend his funeral.
[She had to settle for visiting his grave site the next day.]

[CyberAnt]

The link you sent me does not prove anything.

I don't know what point you're trying to make.

And .. since you can't make your point - our conversation is over!

[timestax]

bttt

[I. M. Trenchant]

Congratulations! No doubt your grandmother saw the funeral on TV and heard the eulogies from a broad spectrum of the U.S. 'body politic'. Every time I see Dan Rather crying on TV, which is dismayingly often, I'm led to think that it must be a result of his inability to suppress the memories of those eulogies to RMN. I think it was RMN's good fortune that his first choice for his library site, Duke University, refused his request. I journied 2500 miles to visit Yorba Linda and found it to be an absolutely lovely site. The architectural setting for the library, the birthplace and the pool is an archictectural gem, the floral accompaniment is a delight and the exhibits are the finest in any presidential library I've visited. There's no doubt about it Nixon Is (Still) The One.

[CyberAnt]

Well .. I'm sorry to burst your bubble - but I saw the program on the TV myself. Now .. you can continue to say it didn't happen .. but you would be lying.

Get lost!

[Arizona Carolyn]

He/she must have listened to Harry Reid on Chris Wallace's Sunday Talk Show two weeks ago.... when Wallace started pushing him about the donations Abramhof made to him he got very upset and started spewing that he was honest and this was the most corrupt congress and administration ever -- no facts -- just rhetoric....

IMHO, the most dishonest was not this admin but the Clinton ... remind your friend of Hillary and the FBI/IRS files Hillary obtained, how about all the deaths on their watch??? Waco, Ruby Ridge,

[Exton1]

The most corrupt is the President's of the other party. Although Nixon was never impeached, nor did he have the death toll around him like Klinton did. Nor did Nixon try to get someone else to lie to avoid a civil case against him.

[Hoodat]

Don't cast your pearls before swine.

[Texas Eagle]

http://www.jeremiahproject.com/prophecy/clintcrimefamily.html