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TOTAL VANITY: Need Advice on Hunting Rifles

Posted on 01/06/2006 1:15:15 PM PST by Junior_G

I am trying to save up money for my first hunting rifle and I'm hoping to tap into the vast reserves of Freeper knowledge for some advice on what to go for. I am going to get my hunter's certification this year and am looking forward to my first deer hunt, as well as hours upon hours of shooting at the range. I currently own a Mossberg 12-gauge shotgun and a 9mm Glock, but am absolutely clueless about which rifles offer the best accuracy and value (or whatever qualities it is in a rifle that I should be looking for). Any suggestions?


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1 posted on 01/06/2006 1:15:16 PM PST by Junior_G
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To: Junior_G

Go to Wal Mart or K-Mart.

Buy a Marlin .30-.30 lever action.

You will have it for life.


2 posted on 01/06/2006 1:16:25 PM PST by Al Gator (Remember to pillage BEFORE you burn!)
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To: Junior_G

First things first. How much money are you looking to spend?


3 posted on 01/06/2006 1:16:35 PM PST by Disambiguator (Making accusations of racism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: Junior_G

Use slugs in your Mossberg. Save the money.


4 posted on 01/06/2006 1:16:49 PM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: Junior_G

I hear good things about the remington 700 series.


5 posted on 01/06/2006 1:17:20 PM PST by kerryusama04 (The Bill of Rights is not occupation specific.)
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To: Junior_G

A good beginner rifle would be a Remington 7600, comes various calibers (I would recommend the 30.06 or the .270, but it really depends on what you'll be hunting), it's a pump action rifle.


6 posted on 01/06/2006 1:18:03 PM PST by kx9088
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To: Junior_G

I use a Remington 700 BDL in 7mm Rem Mag. Can't go wrong there. Roughly $700.

I also own a Marlin 30-30 Lever Action, roughly 300 bucks, good rifle, but not the the gem the Remington is.


7 posted on 01/06/2006 1:18:25 PM PST by The Ox
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To: Disambiguator

I'm pretty patient and willing to save however much I have to if I think it's worth it. My initial thought was that I would spend about $300. Not sure if that's naive or not.


8 posted on 01/06/2006 1:18:45 PM PST by Junior_G
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To: kerryusama04

For a "first" rifle?

Those are serious bucks!


9 posted on 01/06/2006 1:18:49 PM PST by Al Gator (Remember to pillage BEFORE you burn!)
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To: Junior_G

I recommend a metal rifle.


10 posted on 01/06/2006 1:19:04 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: Junior_G

Tell me what you will be hunting for first.


11 posted on 01/06/2006 1:19:22 PM PST by lakeman (when a marine kills the only thing he feels is the recoil of his rifle)
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To: The Ox
I use a Remington 700 BDL in 7mm Rem Mag. Can't go wrong there. Roughly $700.

I also own a Marlin 30-30 Lever Action, roughly 300 bucks, good rifle, but not the the gem the Remington is.

Hey Ox,

What exactly is the difference between those guns that causes the huge price difference?

12 posted on 01/06/2006 1:20:39 PM PST by Junior_G
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To: Disambiguator; Junior_G

It all depends how much you want to spend. You can get a surplus Swiss K-31 (caliber roughly the same power as a 308 Winchester) fpr less than $100. Or you can spend thousands on a custom built tack driver.


13 posted on 01/06/2006 1:20:46 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Junior_G
SAR2 with 75 round drum mag.

Wait, sorry. Wrong application.
14 posted on 01/06/2006 1:20:53 PM PST by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: lakeman

I would like a gun suitable for hunting deer and elk.


15 posted on 01/06/2006 1:21:18 PM PST by Junior_G
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To: Junior_G

Then stick with the Marlin.

You can get your feet wet and have a useful tool all your life.

I still have one or two, and even use them although I have other stuff that is more expensive and more accurate.

When your kicking around the woods, a 300 dollar good shooter that don't weigh a ton outdoes a 1000 cadillac that you really can use to full capacity anyway.


16 posted on 01/06/2006 1:21:28 PM PST by Al Gator (Remember to pillage BEFORE you burn!)
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To: lakeman

He said deer.


17 posted on 01/06/2006 1:21:47 PM PST by Disambiguator (Making accusations of racism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: lakeman

Wabbits..huhhuhuh

18 posted on 01/06/2006 1:21:48 PM PST by Zavien Doombringer (13th AF, 3rd TFW, 3rd AGS, 3rd AMU - ESC The Blue Screw will get you too! 86-89)
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To: Junior_G

Rule #1: the firearm should be sized for the expected game. What is good for a 300 pound deer would be inadequate for a 1000 pound elk or moose. All firearms are accurate enough if you are within the range. Long shots are frowned upon, as are shots in heavy brush.


19 posted on 01/06/2006 1:21:56 PM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: The Ox

I bought me one of these this past summer:

http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire_rifles/model_700/model_700_XCR.asp

In .338 Rem. Ultra Mag, oh yeah.


20 posted on 01/06/2006 1:22:47 PM PST by kx9088
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To: Junior_G

Well now, if its elk you're hunting, you may need a .06

Now your gonna spend money.


21 posted on 01/06/2006 1:23:09 PM PST by Al Gator (Remember to pillage BEFORE you burn!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
You can get a surplus Swiss K-31 (caliber roughly the same power as a 308 Winchester) fpr less than $100.

The accuracy in the K-31s is great for the price. It's like you're getting a gun worth five times that amount. But the ammo ain't cheap. If one wants to also practice with the rifle, it can get a bit expensive. Plus, the bolt is a bit different. (and a b***h to take apart)
22 posted on 01/06/2006 1:23:11 PM PST by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: RightWhale

Hey RightW... I was told 120grains and a .50 cal will drop anything :)


23 posted on 01/06/2006 1:23:13 PM PST by Zavien Doombringer (13th AF, 3rd TFW, 3rd AGS, 3rd AMU - ESC The Blue Screw will get you too! 86-89)
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To: Junior_G

You huntin' heffalumps, or woozles?


24 posted on 01/06/2006 1:23:18 PM PST by spunkets
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To: Junior_G

Not what you're looking for... but fun to look at...


25 posted on 01/06/2006 1:23:32 PM PST by pgyanke (The Son of God became a man to enable men to become sons of God.)
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To: Al Gator
My neighbor has one with a factory installed scope and synthetic stock in 30.06. $550.

I'm not big on buying "first" stuff. Just buy what you want and only buy it once.

26 posted on 01/06/2006 1:23:49 PM PST by kerryusama04 (The Bill of Rights is not occupation specific.)
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To: Junior_G

Lots of things can affect the price. The brand name for one, the type of rifle, the caliber, the quality, the accuracy expectation.


27 posted on 01/06/2006 1:23:59 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Petronski
I recommend a metal rifle.

Not sure if that's in my price range. Maybe alabaster?

28 posted on 01/06/2006 1:24:11 PM PST by Junior_G
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To: Al Gator

should read: "can't use"

Its late.

I'm sure you'll get lots of advice.


29 posted on 01/06/2006 1:24:31 PM PST by Al Gator (Remember to pillage BEFORE you burn!)
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To: pgyanke

OOOooo, love that Barret...


30 posted on 01/06/2006 1:24:43 PM PST by Zavien Doombringer (13th AF, 3rd TFW, 3rd AGS, 3rd AMU - ESC The Blue Screw will get you too! 86-89)
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To: Al Gator

Personally, like I said, you can get the Rem 7600 pump in a 30.06 caliber is an all around versatile gun. I would'nt go hunting grizzlies with it but it will do the trick on elk and definitely deer.


31 posted on 01/06/2006 1:25:14 PM PST by kx9088
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To: Junior_G

have a bamboo one... used once.


32 posted on 01/06/2006 1:25:20 PM PST by Zavien Doombringer (13th AF, 3rd TFW, 3rd AGS, 3rd AMU - ESC The Blue Screw will get you too! 86-89)
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To: Junior_G

Where are you hunting? You might be restricted in what you can carry. Back east, there are areas where you can only use slugs. Even if you can carry a rifle, there is nothing wrong with slugs if you are hunting in timber or if you will be shooting less than 100 yards.

A decent bolt action in 30-06 is good medicine for about any medium/large game in the states. Remington 700 has a good reputation.

I get most of my deer with a bumper attached to detroit steel.


33 posted on 01/06/2006 1:25:33 PM PST by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: July 4th

He says he wants to hunt elk. He needs a bigger gun.


34 posted on 01/06/2006 1:25:36 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Junior_G

I'd get a .308 if you want to spend hours on the range. You can get cheap, military surplus rounds for playing around, and get a box or two of high quality rounds for deer hunting. Just my 2 cents worth anyway.


35 posted on 01/06/2006 1:25:51 PM PST by 300magnum (We know that if evil is not confronted, it gains in strength and audacity, and returns to strike us)
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To: Last Dakotan

With a slug barrel. Good idea.


36 posted on 01/06/2006 1:26:02 PM PST by Redleg Duke (Kennedy and Kerry, the two Commissars of the Peoples' Republic of Massachusetts!)
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To: Junior_G

What is your quarry? Squirrels or rhinos?


37 posted on 01/06/2006 1:26:06 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: Zavien Doombringer

The object is to get something for dinner, not to decorate the woodlands.


38 posted on 01/06/2006 1:26:09 PM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: RightWhale
Rule #1: the firearm should be sized for the expected game. What is good for a 300 pound deer would be inadequate for a 1000 pound elk or moose. All firearms are accurate enough if you are within the range. Long shots are frowned upon, as are shots in heavy brush.

I have a feeling I am going to learn a lot more from this thread than I expected. Thanks.

39 posted on 01/06/2006 1:26:53 PM PST by Junior_G
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To: Junior_G
I would recommend the 243 Remington 700. I've had mine for 40 years and have killed wild pigs, goats, deer etc. If you want to hunt bigger game like Elk and moose and bear, then I would suggest a bigger rifle like the magnums. The 243 has a light kick and is good for target shooting and varmint also.
40 posted on 01/06/2006 1:27:11 PM PST by fish hawk (creatio ex nihilo)
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Pick-up a Swedish rifle in 6.5x55mm. You can get a MOJO aperture rear sight and you will have a fine deer rifle.

The 6.5x55 has a mild recoil and is a flat shooting round with real good penetration power.

41 posted on 01/06/2006 1:28:30 PM PST by Redleg Duke (Kennedy and Kerry, the two Commissars of the Peoples' Republic of Massachusetts!)
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To: Junior_G

Sounds like you need an 30 .06 Partial to remington myself but you may need to by a used rifle with that budget. Save up for a little while so you don't buy one with a barrel thats shot out.


42 posted on 01/06/2006 1:28:52 PM PST by Pafreedom
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To: 300magnum; Junior_G
I'd get a .308 if you want to spend hours on the range. You can get cheap, military surplus rounds for playing around, and get a box or two of high quality rounds for deer hunting. Just my 2 cents worth anyway.

Solid advice and look for a used one at a good gun store.

43 posted on 01/06/2006 1:28:58 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Junior_G

Invest in a Rem 700 in 30-06 then...I use a 30-30 Mod 64 Winchester for deer and a BAR 300 Win Mag for Elk,but the 30-06 makes for a good all around gun especially for the first time shopper.


44 posted on 01/06/2006 1:29:11 PM PST by Minnesoootan
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To: Al Gator

I like the 308 round better than the 30-30. However, a 30-06 is a pretty universal round for big game in the continental US. Everything from antelope to moose or bear.


45 posted on 01/06/2006 1:29:39 PM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: kerryusama04; Junior_G
I hear good things about the remington 700 series.

That would be my recommendation...
bolt action, .308 with a decent 3~9X scope

46 posted on 01/06/2006 1:30:00 PM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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Well now, if its elk you're hunting, you may need a .06

Now your gonna spend money.

I'm not so sure...he can still get the Remington 700BDL or a Savage 110 series in .30-06 from Wal-Mart or K-Mart that shoots very nicely.

I've taken 2 elk in 3 hunts, one with my .270 custom and one with my .30-06 Remington 700. Both rifles (scopes, slings, etc.) came in under $500.

The real answer, though, is to shoot a couple of rifles to see what fits you best and doesn't beat you up when shooting. That allows you to concentrate on shot placement, not recoil management!

47 posted on 01/06/2006 1:30:27 PM PST by HiJinx (~ www.proudpatriots.org ~ Operation Valentine's Day ~ Support our Heroes ~)
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To: RightWhale
The object is to get something for dinner, not to decorate the woodlands.

Damn - I knew I was doing something wrong!

48 posted on 01/06/2006 1:30:41 PM PST by CFC__VRWC ("Anytime a liberal squeals in outrage, an angel gets its wings!" - gidget7)
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To: Al Gator

Hunted elk in CO as a kid back in the 60s. Had a Savage 06 with 3x9 scope. Worked very well. Savage makes a good functioning weapon at a competitive price.


49 posted on 01/06/2006 1:31:16 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: kerryusama04
I'm not big on buying "first" stuff. Just buy what you want and only buy it once.

I agree. I want to get it right the first time and have a friend for life if you know what I mean. I probably sound like a 15-year-old with these questions, but better late than never I guess.

50 posted on 01/06/2006 1:31:24 PM PST by Junior_G
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