Posted on 01/21/2006 10:17:13 AM PST by Jeremydmccann
“We must never forget . . . that as Muslims, we are obligated to desire, and when possible to participate in, the overthrow of any non-Islamic government—anywhere in the world – in order to replace it by an Islamic one,” the speaker concluded his remarks. The venue was a mosque, not in Rawalpindi or Jeddah but in San Francisco. When a recent convert noted that if Muslims are obligated to overthrow the U.S. government then accepting Islam was tantamount to an act of political treason, the lecturer responded matter-of-factly, “Yes, that’s true.”
He was right both technically and substantively. A breach of allegiance to the United States by naturalized Muslims is not a rarity, it is an integral part of the Muslim-American experience. It is an inherent dilemma for many; it leads the serious few to give aid and comfort to the enemy. The problem will be solved only if and when Islamic activism is treated as grounds for the loss of acquired U.S. citizenship and deportation. The citizenship of any naturalized American who actively supports or preaches jihad, inequality of “infidels,” the establishment of the Shari’a law, etc., should be revoked, and that person promptly deported to the country of origin.
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I think the bigger question is, does America need or want Muslim citizens?
Reminds me of a friend who owned a bar room. It was a neighborhood bar and just about everyone in it knew each other.
He was telling me how one of his regular customers came in and called him aside. The patron explained to my friend that his ensuing actions were not meant personally to my friend and they might affect his business, and he was sorry.
MY friend didn't quite grasp the situation. The guy walked down to a booth pulled out a gun and fired 4 shots into a customer and killed him.. As he was exiting the bar with gun in hand, he turned to my friend and said I'm sorry it had to happen here in your place. (He was later arrested)
Sometimes you have to pay attention to what is being said. The Muslims make their plans available to anyone who will read or listen.
To put it as blunt as possible - When the opportunity presents itself, the Muslims are going to kill you, because you don't believe that Allah is God. - tom
No.
Let me answer that, no and no.
I can remember a time when the same questions were asked of and about Catholics. I suppose the question has less to do with Islam and more to do with culture. For the most part the middle east does not have a history of nations or nationalism. The people there identify in the following order 1) family, 2) tribe, 3) sect, 4) Islam, 5) community, 6) nation.
Muslims? Loyal Americans? No way.
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"And we MUST start enforcing the laws against treason and sedition."
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Dittoes!
Well, and here may be a new thought: SUE media outlets that are considered treasonous in the peoples mind.
We CAN fight the MSM.
But first, we must WANT to.
An oxymoron- No?
Definitely not a redundancy.
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One of the most illuminating moments of the past year came Thanksgiving, when I was in my local deli, run by a Yemeni family.
The absolute rapture or America and Thanksgiving as he spoke of how 27 kinsfolk gathered for "four turkeys, man. Thanksgiving's great!"
The guy is also devout -- he closes for an hour for Friday prayers -- but he appears to be an equally devout American.
The trouble with the Muslim creed, I reckon, is that it sets the bar for devotion just so high that, with just a short stretch, the even-more-devout can embrace blowing themselves up. It's a petri dish for cultivating fanaticism. While my local store owner seems a decent, reasonable man (and he's honest to a T), it's his faith that has the fatal flaw.
Only about to the extent a Communist can be...
Please keep in mind that the hijackers lived in this country for years and no one they met daily suspected their true feelings. There are Muslims here now, among us- that some of us trust and consider 'regular' guys-who will be the next to pull off a terrorist attack. Those who considered them 'good Muslims' will be shocked.
I'm not saying the man you mentioned is a terrorist, just that-knowing his 'faith' can't be trusted- you should be less trusting and more vigilant.
It is our naivete and willingness to take people at face value that they use against us.
I absolutely agree. There are many good men and women who have been roped into islam whether by an accident of birth or because they were duped as converts.
The evil is hidden inside islam...under the clutter of the language of the Quran. I suggest there is a living spirit behind islam...and it certainly is NOT benign.
"I can remember a time when the same questions were asked of and about Catholics"
--- Yes, you can.
However, the Catholics were not advocating murder, rape and terrorism
Thank you!
That is a specious comparison. What Pope, or local Catholic priest, urges the faithful to butcher others,commit murder/suicide, or insist that no other religion but Catholicism should exist-much less that it should rule the world?
No other modern religion can be compared to Islam for barbaric savagery. You have to go back to the real dark ages.
If a Hardshell Baptists Minister called for the killing of people who did not follow the Baptists Creed, all hell would break loose!
If a Catholic Priest did the same, more hell...
I say when a religion goes past the spiritual, it is not a religion!
In the case of Radical Islam, it does not deserve protection... It deserves to be crushed!
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