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Jed Babbin: Rockefeller IS the source of the leak on the NSA wiretaps..will he take a polygraph?
John Batchelor program..WABC radio

Posted on 02/03/2006 8:47:20 PM PST by ken5050

Turned on the radio, happened to catch the last segment of the John Batchelor show. He was interviewing Jeb Babbin....who many of us know and respect, and read his columns. I was absolutely stunned by what Babbin just said...hadn't seen/heard it anywheres..and thought it merits reposting for your benefit....


TOPICS: US: West Virginia; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 109th; babbin; batchelor; jayrockefeller; jedbabbin; johnbatchelor; leaks; nsa; spying; talkradio; traitor
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To: ken5050

Maybe somebody on the Levin threads knows...............who listens and posts?


101 posted on 02/03/2006 9:37:40 PM PST by Howlin (Why don't you just report the news, instead of what might be the news? - Donald Rumsfeld 1/25/2006)
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To: SoCalPol; ken5050


SoCalPol listens to Mark every day.


102 posted on 02/03/2006 9:38:43 PM PST by onyx
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To: ken5050

I listed to Mark Levin from 3-5 everyday. Check out
the live thread and also the site MARKLEVINFAN has back
files of his programs


103 posted on 02/03/2006 9:39:31 PM PST by SoCalPol (Cowards Cut and Run, Marines Never Do)
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To: ken5050

It does not matter if the person is an elected official.

A crime is a crime. And a senator, who willfully discloses classified info, is subject to the same penalties as anyone else.

That is what our democracy is supposed to be about - both equal protection and equal prosecution and conviction.

So, I say, we should convict and hang the bast##ds!


104 posted on 02/03/2006 9:40:39 PM PST by Prost1 (Sandy Berger can steal, Clinton can cheat, but Bush can't listen!)
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To: Txsleuth

Yeah the picture that it congers up is revolting. This will be very interesting and that thread should be pretty informative. I will bet that "Mr Potato head" Tim Russert does not bring it up on his show, and I would be willing to bet that the other liberal biased Shows don't either.


105 posted on 02/03/2006 9:41:12 PM PST by samantha (cheer up, the adults are in charge! Soldier in Bucket Brigade Reporting for Duty.)
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To: TomGuy
Jay Rockerfeller was also the Senator who made a fast trip to Syria and the ME not long before the invasion of Iraq, too

and I heard him actually say, on TV, that when the Syrian leader expressed doubts that Bush would really attack, (neither he nor Saddam thought the US had the guts too - and Saddam had his buddies - Russia, France and Germany, all on the take with the oil/food program - who assured him they wouldn't let an attack okay thru' the UN - was strutting and posturing. But Rockefeller proudly said that he, himself, assured Syria that Bush WAS going to attack. This is when Saddam got busy and trucked/flew the WMD into Syria.

So - why isn't what Rockefeller did treason?

106 posted on 02/03/2006 9:43:33 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: ken5050; AliVeritas

Mark was talking about a letter that has been written and signed by a bunch of ex-Clintonistas, lawyers, ex-intell. and such, that will be admitted into evidence next week...

Of course, it is totally anti-Bush...even though their boss, Clinton did the same thing...and some of them even argued for Clinton's right to do it..

Mark gave a website to get the full text of the letter, but I didn't think to write it down, and I don't remember.

Probably the best person to ask about this would be AliVeritas...if she was listnening...because she keeps everthing for further use.


107 posted on 02/03/2006 9:44:56 PM PST by Txsleuth (l drink tea, not kool-aid.)
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To: SoCalPol

Will the real "Culture of Coruption" please stand up!


108 posted on 02/03/2006 9:46:24 PM PST by CAluvdubya (The ignorant defeatocrats have declared war on the War On Terror!)
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To: samantha

Hopefully, Chris Wallace will talk about it on Fox...but, if he doesn't, no one will.


109 posted on 02/03/2006 9:47:20 PM PST by Txsleuth (l drink tea, not kool-aid.)
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To: Txsleuth

she keeps "everything?"


110 posted on 02/03/2006 9:47:37 PM PST by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: TomGuy

"The administration is not sure how to proceed. Babbin doesn't think they have the guts to indict a US senator. He said it would cause a battle royal on the Hill, if not a constitutional crisis.

If they don't now, on this, they might as well forget about ever trying to any thing else.

They gave all the Clinton corruption a pass.

Jay Rockerfeller was also the Senator who made a fast trip to Syria and the ME not long before the invasion of Iraq, too."


I'm a firm believer in a test of: Reverse the facts and the party affiliations. If the Dems were sitting in the Republican's places, would they indict? If the answer is yes, then our answer sure as hell should also be YES! The main reason that the Pubbies lose many times is that we always feel like we must play "by the rules." The Dims have no such compunctions!


111 posted on 02/03/2006 9:47:56 PM PST by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: Howlin
"Certain "validating" questions may be asked without prior disclosure to establish a baseline from which the examiners can judge the validity of the answers to the relevant questions."

Seems to me that if even the non-relevant (neutral) questions are not disclosed, the subject would show more stress than would normally be shown if the the neutral question(s) were known beforehand.

I think non-disclosure would be responsible for establishing a false baseline and could possibly cloak 'control' question stress -- assuming that they would use control questions. Some do and some don't.

Any truth examiners out there agree with that?

112 posted on 02/03/2006 9:48:19 PM PST by Eastbound
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To: Philistone
"Who will not rid me of this turbulent priest!" Sorry,my favorite CYA line of all time.

The line is, "Who will rid me of this meddlesome priest?"

113 posted on 02/03/2006 9:48:55 PM PST by M. Thatcher ( I truly hope for two things before I die. The death of the Democrat Party, and the death of Islam.)
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To: el_texicano

yeah, or maybe batman.


114 posted on 02/03/2006 9:49:00 PM PST by Treader (Hillary's dark smile is reminiscent of Stalin's inhuman grin...)
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To: ken5050

This is from Mark Levin Fan's site, he is a grreat source.
He has the sound bits also along with the back programs




The forces of good vs. the forces of appeasement
Thursday, Mark discussed a confrontation in the Senate Intelligence Committee today.

Tim Sumner provided the following summary:

Journalists undermining our country unprecedented

Last night, Mark Levin pointedly took an AP reporter to task for obvious interjecting a slant and prefacing a report with, “Eavesdropping without warrants program,” in her lead paragraph. She was ”reporting” on administration officials testifying before Congress and the NSA Surveillance Program. ”Let’s stop right there,” Mark said and then added:

“Katherine Shrader, you’re the reporter for the Associated Press. ‘Eavesdropping without warrants program’ is not what it is. Its ‘intercepting enemy communications program’ and maybe if you had lost someone on 9/11, maybe if your family or friends were affected by that, maybe you wouldn’t write such left-wing propaganda that puts a very honorable and legitimate program in such a bad light.”

Mark went on to do what Ms. Shrader and others often do not: report what happened. He finished reading her “report” of administration official’s testimony, representation of the give and take, and post-hearings reactions from various members of Congress.

Then Mark did what pundits and editorial boards are free people to do, he weighed in:


They put politics before preventing another 9/11!

by MarkLevinFan @ 10:31 pm.
Filed under Mark Levin Audio
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115 posted on 02/03/2006 9:50:25 PM PST by SoCalPol (Cowards Cut and Run, Marines Never Do)
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To: ken5050

She posts links to the most articles of anyone that I have seen on FR...and they are all really good.

However, if she didn't, then MarkLevinFan should have a recording of Mark's show to get the information off of.


116 posted on 02/03/2006 9:50:34 PM PST by Txsleuth (l drink tea, not kool-aid.)
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To: Txsleuth

Im turning in....see ya manana..if you see/find anything on the Levin reference..please ping me..

g'night


117 posted on 02/03/2006 9:50:45 PM PST by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: sinkspur
Not to be a skunk at the party, but lie detector results are not admissable in court, which means there is reasonable doubt as to their efficacy.

But if you pass a lie detector pass, you have less a chance of being prosecuted, unless they have other much more damning evidence.

Which is why we will see the DNC offering classes for their members on "How to properly take a lie detector test...And Pass!"

For the swimmer there will be a Cliff Notes version.

118 posted on 02/03/2006 9:52:52 PM PST by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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To: ken5050

Yeah...I gotta go to bed also...I will let you know, what, if anything I find this weekend.


119 posted on 02/03/2006 9:52:52 PM PST by Txsleuth (l drink tea, not kool-aid.)
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To: samantha
Leahy has the same problem, he always looks guilty,but he probably did pee on the Carpet.

didn't I hear that Leahy was, in the 90's, on the security council, but was kicked off for leaking classified info?

(should've gone to jail, IMO, - but the libs are never held accountable. And the pubs are crucified and destroyed over false accusations.

120 posted on 02/03/2006 9:56:16 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: ken5050

bttt


121 posted on 02/03/2006 10:08:15 PM PST by ADemocratNoMore (Jeepers, Freepers, where'd 'ya get those sleepers?. Pj people, exposing old media's lies.)
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To: Bookmaestro

ping -> breaking


122 posted on 02/03/2006 10:10:16 PM PST by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: Howlin
Isn't there one called CODE?

Close; "CODEWORD", but keep it unde your hat.

123 posted on 02/03/2006 10:23:13 PM PST by ForGod'sSake
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To: Graymatter
Has there ever been a sitting Senator indicted for anything? The way to get this turkey is non stop pressure from the NEW MEDIA. Every day, all day. It would be better then a trial. Let Rocky and the Rats defend, we need to attack, and attack some more. This is not the place for GWB. Let him express concern ,but let us keep the pressure on the Rats.
124 posted on 02/03/2006 10:25:33 PM PST by bybybill (If the Rats win, we are doomed)
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To: samantha
"Did you ever notice that Rockefeller always looks guilty or like he is hiding something? I am serious, his demeanor and body language make him look like a Dog that peed on the carpet. "

I think that he may have "screwed the pooch" this time.

125 posted on 02/03/2006 10:43:47 PM PST by de Buillion (Democrats and their death doctors murdered 3,534 babies DAILY in the US, 2002.)
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To: Graymatter
This administration couldn't even punish Sandy Burger, they're not going to take on a senator.

Agreed. W always wants to be nice.

126 posted on 02/03/2006 10:44:25 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: ken5050

I hope it does cause a firestorm .. it's time for the dems and their "get Bush" tactics to be accounted for.

This is treason in my book - and any senator who commits such an act SHOULD NO LONGER BE ALLOWED IN THE SENATE OR ANYWHERE IN THE GOVERNMENT.

I hope to hell this admin is not A FRAIDY CAT about this just because of what the WP or the NYT may say. And .. for that matter - both of those outlets are next in line to be indicted!!

While the dems are whining about a "culture of corruption" - they forgot to look behind their own doors.


127 posted on 02/03/2006 10:44:59 PM PST by CyberAnt ( I believe Congressman Curt Weldon re Able Danger)
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To: oceanview

I don't agree .. Rockerfeller did admit it was he that wrote the intel memo which Miranda found on the computer and exposed. So .. if Rocky wrote that memo .. he is more than capable of leaking the classified info.


128 posted on 02/03/2006 10:47:11 PM PST by CyberAnt ( I believe Congressman Curt Weldon re Able Danger)
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To: Mo1
Because at the hearing yesterday .. After a few stern words to the Dems with regard to their questions ... Pat Roberts mention the FBI asking members (I think last year) to take one and that Roberts thought it was an insult

I thought it was odd that he brought it up too. I'm trying to remember various exchanges from that hearing given this news and what I keep coming back to is Rockefeller's last statement, which followed Roberts odd comment. I don't listen to him enough but he sounded very emotional in talking about his belief in the law. Negroponte followed that with a last sentence saying that all of the panel members take an oath and they take it seriously.

If it's common knowledge among them that Rockefeller is the guy, that makes that last exchange pretty dramatic. Didn't Rockefeller also ask if the program was covert?

129 posted on 02/03/2006 10:47:34 PM PST by Dolphy
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To: onyx

Yeah! Memogate! He wrote the senate intel memo that Miranda discovered on their computers.


130 posted on 02/03/2006 10:48:42 PM PST by CyberAnt ( I believe Congressman Curt Weldon re Able Danger)
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To: CyberAnt



Riiiiiiiight. Thank you!


131 posted on 02/03/2006 10:49:47 PM PST by onyx
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To: sinkspur

As I understand, having a security clearance means that you have to submit to a polygraph at any time. If he refuses to take the polygraph, no big deal, it just means that he can't be ranking member on the committee. Look for him to step down from that role in the committee.


132 posted on 02/03/2006 10:50:55 PM PST by AmishDude
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To: Txsleuth

I agree with you .. and Jay needs to be make an example of what happens when you leak NSA secrets to the media or anyone else.

I hope they go after him. He is NOT ABOVE THE LAW. He knew exactly what he was doing and he did it because he HATES BUSH - which is the most juvenile and stupid reason to do anything.


133 posted on 02/03/2006 10:52:04 PM PST by CyberAnt ( I believe Congressman Curt Weldon re Able Danger)
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To: ken5050

I wonder who told Babbin it was Rockerfeller ..??


134 posted on 02/03/2006 10:52:42 PM PST by CyberAnt ( I believe Congressman Curt Weldon re Able Danger)
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To: ken5050
He said flat out that they know that Rockefeller is the source of the leak to the NY Times.

Well, surprise, surprise. (A fairly large contingent of us on FR knew it too.)

135 posted on 02/03/2006 10:52:48 PM PST by texasbluebell
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To: pepperdog
If he actually did it he should fall on his sword literally, and right away, as that would be the best thing for the Congress and the country. However, knowing the arrogance of most Congressmen I doubt that "doing the right thing" is in their vocabulary.

Being a Rockefeller means never having to say you're sorry.

136 posted on 02/03/2006 10:53:50 PM PST by texasbluebell
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To: GOPJ

Burger didn't, the Clintons haven't.


137 posted on 02/03/2006 10:54:38 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: M. Thatcher
"( I truly hope for two things before I die. The death of the Democrat Party, and the death of Islam.) "

I am quickly coming to the conclusion that these two things are really one thing. They are both enemies of the free world, and the American culture.

138 posted on 02/03/2006 11:01:06 PM PST by de Buillion (Democrats and their death doctors murdered 3,534 babies DAILY in the US, 2002.)
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To: Zacs Mom
He's got a track record of shooting off his mouth while trying to sink the USA

It must be so "interesting" to be an international man like JR, and to hold no allegiance to the country that gave one's family such a position. He must consider himself an untouchable.

139 posted on 02/03/2006 11:01:09 PM PST by texasbluebell
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To: yooling

Your tagline:

(I don't have anything nice to say...)

reminds me of a favorite quote from Alice Roosevelt, TR's daughter. She was a great gossip, and was fond of saying this at dinner parties and social gatherings in Washington all through her long life: "If you have nothing good to say about anyone -- come sit beside me."


140 posted on 02/03/2006 11:06:21 PM PST by texasbluebell
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To: garyhope
The left never quits.

Truer words were never spoken.

141 posted on 02/03/2006 11:08:37 PM PST by texasbluebell
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To: maine-iac7
didn't I hear that Leahy was, in the 90's, on the security council, but was kicked off for leaking classified info?

That's why his nickname is Leaky Leahy.

142 posted on 02/03/2006 11:13:02 PM PST by texasbluebell
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To: abner

Rockefeller was on FOX NEWS Sunday (I think before Christmas) and happened to mention that he had travelled to Syria before we invaded Iraq to warn the Syrians that we were going to attack. This received some comment on FR but not the national uproar it should have.

That's when many began believing that, as a member of and at the time of the Iraq invasion I believe chairman of the Intelligence committee, he was the source of these leaks.


143 posted on 02/03/2006 11:30:31 PM PST by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: de Buillion
I forgot something important. "I am quickly coming to the conclusion that these two things are really one thing. They are both enemies of the free world, and the American culture. "

They are both enemies of the free world, the American Culture, and the Christian Religions.

144 posted on 02/03/2006 11:36:47 PM PST by de Buillion (Democrats and their death doctors murdered 3,534 babies DAILY in the US, 2002.)
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To: Let's Roll

Here is a link concerning my previous comment - #143. I think Rockefeller is the most dangerous man in America.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/006/367wlqji.asp


145 posted on 02/03/2006 11:37:34 PM PST by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: Let's Roll

Here is a better link to the FR thread re the same.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1521893/posts


146 posted on 02/03/2006 11:40:45 PM PST by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: Let's Roll

Is there even the remotest chance he will be held accountable in the slightest way for any of this?


147 posted on 02/03/2006 11:46:11 PM PST by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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To: ken5050

Leahy was forced to resign for leaking intelligency info to the press, looks like we have another guilty dem on the line.


148 posted on 02/03/2006 11:51:17 PM PST by ShuShu
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To: nickcarraway

If not actual jail time - at least kicked off the intelligence committee and THOROUGHLY disgraced.

We have to keep this going, not just for justice but because it's too dangerous to have him in that position.


149 posted on 02/03/2006 11:55:16 PM PST by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: Howlin; Mo1
I'm SHOCKED to hear that such an upstanding Senator like Jay Rockefeller would leak classified national security information to the New York Times. I mean, it's not like there was a pattern of closed-door Senate Intelligence Committee briefings and New York Times articles on intelligence matters all throughout the 2004 campaign or something.

/sarcasm
150 posted on 02/04/2006 12:56:41 AM PST by conservative in nyc
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