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Power Play? Board boots Baptist pastor in flap over speaking in tongues
Journal Now.com ^ | Saturday, February 4, 2006 | By Greg Horton

Posted on 02/04/2006 2:44:05 AM PST by WKB

ENID, Okla.

A Southern Baptist pastor being removed from a national board governing worldwide evangelism says he doesn't speak in tongues himself but is defending missionaries who do to keep the denomination "broad in our cooperation."

The Rev. Wade Burleson, the senior pastor of Emmanuel Baptist Church in Enid, said that the board of trustees of the Southern Baptist Convention's International Mission Board wants him to be removed because of his criticism of a policy change enacted by the IMB in November 2005. It stated that any candidate speaking in tongues, even privately, "has eliminated himself or herself from being a representative of the IMB of the SBC."

In a statement, the International Mission Board says it wants him removed not because of the tongues issue, but because of "broken trust and resistance to accountability." Burleson's removal depends on a June vote of the entire Southern Baptist Convention, but the controversy is being watched beyond Baptist circles, largely because of the dispute over tongues, an issue that has rankled many religious groups.

Tongues is described in the Bible as a spiritual language used by early Christians, enabled by the Holy Spirit. The issue of whether it is still relevant, or appropriate, for modern times has divided many denominations.

Burleson says he is not most concerned about tongues, but a willingness to remove ministers who disagree with what he and others consider "nonessential doctrines." Since the changes in the mission board's policy were made official, Burleson has been writing open letters and explanations of his position on his blog, kerussocharis.blogspot.com.

He has repeatedly referred to those who wanted the policy changes as "crusading conservatives."

"Crusading conservatives seek to convince you that their interpretation of the Bible on nonessential doctrines must be accepted by all conservatives, and if someone chooses to not conform to their specific interpretation, then he/she is removed from service," Burleson said.

Burleson says he considers himself a "cooperating conservative," which he defines as a person who is in agreement on the major doctrines of the Bible but gives freedom in areas of interpretation regarding nonessential doctrines. The SBC has long considered the Reformation's rallying cries of faith alone, grace alone, Scripture alone and Christ alone as summing up the major doctrines of Scripture.

The use of the spiritual gift known as tongues or glossolalia would fall into the nonessential category. Southern Baptists have a policy that prohibits their ministers from using tongues in a public setting.

"I do not want people to lose sight of the real issue," Burleson said. "It is not about the new policies. It is the direction we seem to be moving as a convention that shuts out dissent and desires conformity in the interpretation of minor doctrines."

Burleson said he does not practice a "private prayer language," the phrase some use for speaking in tongues, nor does anyone he would consider a close friend or family member. The issue, he said, is one of principle and "is not personal."

Leon McBeth is a retired distinguished professor of church history at Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary in Fort Worth, Texas. He said that the SBC has a long-standing antipathy toward what some call the miraculous gifts of the Holy Spirit.

"In my day, our concern over the tongues issue was a biblical one," McBeth said. "In the Bible, tongues is always associated with conflict. And tongues isn't exclusive to Christianity. The practice goes at least as far back as the Oracle at Delphi.

"Sometime in the 1970s, as a way of ameliorating opposition to tongues, some Southern Baptists began to talk about private prayer language. They believed it was less offensive than calling it tongues."

Lyle Story, a professor of biblical languages and New Testament at Regent University School of Divinity in Virginia Beach, Va., said that the Southern Baptist resistance to tongues is tied to their belief that all the miraculous gifts (healing, prophecy, tongues, miracles) ceased with the death of the original 12 apostles and the completion of the Bible.

Burleson said he is resistant to the policy change because so many Christian men and women throughout history would have violated it.

"Some of our greatest missionaries of all time had a private prayer language, including Miss Bertha Smith of China, who led thousands of people to Christ and died an ambassador of the Southern Baptist Convention at the age of 100," he said.

Jerry Rankin, the president of the International Mission Board, has acknowledged that he has practiced a private prayer language for 30 years.

"We have become so intolerant that everyone must now march in lockstep with us or we kick them out," McBeth said. "I believe this (the policy change) was part of a power play to force Rankin into retirement."

The IMB made the policy change non-retroactive, so Rankin's position as president will not be threatened.

The trustees of the IMB deny that Burleson's criticism of the policy changes had a bearing on their decision to work to remove him. In an official statement released Jan. 11, board chairman Tom Hatley said: "In taking this action, trustees addressed issues involving broken trust and resistance to accountability, not Burleson's opposition to policies recently enacted by the board."

Burleson will remain on the board until the Southern Baptist Convention meets in Greensboro in June. The convention must vote to remove him, as the IMB has no power to do so. Burleson said he remains a strong supporter of the SBC and IMB.

"The International Mission Board of the Southern Baptist Convention is doing the greatest work in our 161-year-old history," Burleson said. "I and my church support the IMB. We will continue to support the IMB."


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To: WKB
I once did a small talk on speaking in tongues during a mini life in the spirit seminar. The following article really helped in getting some background historical information to help explain exactly what speaking in tongues is and its historical significance. Hope some of you enjoy - I did.

http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/pastoral/speaking-tongues1.htm
21 posted on 02/04/2006 3:39:54 AM PST by lnbchip
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To: WKB

BOTTOM LINE STAY ON MESSAGE!

The cross of Christ is the most revolutionary thing ever to appear among men. The cross of old Roman times knew no compromise; it never made concessions. It won all its arguments by killing its opponent and silencing him for good. It spared not Christ, but slew Him the same as the rest. He was alive when they hung Him on that cross and completely dead when they took Him down six hours later. That was the cross the first time it appeared in Christian history.

After Christ was risen from the dead the apostles went out to preach His message, and what they preached was the cross.
~ A.W. Tozer



GODSPEED!


22 posted on 02/04/2006 3:40:19 AM PST by alpha-8-25-02 ("SAVED BY GRACE AND GRACE ALONE")
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To: lnbchip

The requested document does not exist on this server. Okay


23 posted on 02/04/2006 3:41:40 AM PST by WKB (Jesus Saving the Baptist\ The Baptist saving the South, The South saving the Nation)
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To: bayourant
where unfort icontrol associated with a Heresy

And what tongue, exactly, are you speaking? :-)

24 posted on 02/04/2006 3:46:40 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: WKB; lnbchip

Try now.

http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/pastoral/speaking-tongues1.htm


25 posted on 02/04/2006 3:47:38 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Always Right; WKB
Tongues is described in the Bible as a spiritual language used by early Christians, enabled by the Holy Spirit. The issue of whether it is still relevant, or appropriate, for modern times has divided many denominations.

This statement in the article is wrong because it does not fully express the teaching of the bible.

A correct teaching would say: "Tongues in the Bible CAN SOMETIMES BE a spiritual language that was used by SOME early Christians..."

26 posted on 02/04/2006 3:52:12 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: Larry Lucido

Thanks for the help!


27 posted on 02/04/2006 3:53:06 AM PST by lnbchip
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To: xzins

Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.


Mar 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;


28 posted on 02/04/2006 4:02:19 AM PST by Always Right
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To: WKB
Speaking in tounges always sounds like spiritual Tourette's Syndrome.

When people on the street start doing this we call it mental illness. I guess there's a lot of prophets with signs that say "Will Work For Food."

29 posted on 02/04/2006 4:08:35 AM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (The Democratic Party-Jackass symbol, jackass leaders, jackass supporters.)
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To: WKB

I always wonder if he tried that on the hooker he got caught with and told her it was French.


30 posted on 02/04/2006 4:11:05 AM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (The Democratic Party-Jackass symbol, jackass leaders, jackass supporters.)
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To: WKB

I always wonder if he tried that on the hooker he got caught with and told her it was French.


31 posted on 02/04/2006 4:11:15 AM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (The Democratic Party-Jackass symbol, jackass leaders, jackass supporters.)
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To: Always Right; xzins

What about this part?


Mark 16:18 they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well.”


32 posted on 02/04/2006 4:15:20 AM PST by WKB (Jesus Saving the Baptist\ The Baptist saving the South, The South saving the Nation)
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To: Always Right

There is nothing in the passages you cited that says that tongues must be a "spiritual language."


33 posted on 02/04/2006 4:19:55 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: WKB

Well, that is all in there too.


34 posted on 02/04/2006 4:21:59 AM PST by Always Right
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To: WKB

ping for later


35 posted on 02/04/2006 4:23:32 AM PST by Diva
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To: WKB

Nothing there about any "spiritual language."

Also...nothing there about INTENTIONALLY picking up snakes or INTENTIONALLY drinking poison.

Finally, nothing there about those having hands laid on them ALWAYS getting well.

These are signs that will follow believers. The nature of a "sign" is that it a marvelous event designed to bring glory to GOD....and GOD will make them happen according to HIS determination.


36 posted on 02/04/2006 4:24:39 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: Always Right
Well, that is all in there too.



Done either lately.
Or did you choose the buffet?
37 posted on 02/04/2006 4:25:17 AM PST by WKB (Jesus Saving the Baptist\ The Baptist saving the South, The South saving the Nation)
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To: xzins

....and GOD will make them happen according to HIS determination.



AMEN


38 posted on 02/04/2006 4:25:59 AM PST by WKB (Jesus Saving the Baptist\ The Baptist saving the South, The South saving the Nation)
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To: Larry Lucido; All

"Thus saith the Lord of hosts: Hearken not to the words of the prophets that prophesy to you, and deceive you: they speak a vision of their own heart, and not out of the mouth of the Lord" (Jeremiah 23:16).

GOOD ARTICLE WITH STRONG HISTORICAL AND BIBLICAL REFERANCE!

THANKYOU!


39 posted on 02/04/2006 4:32:42 AM PST by alpha-8-25-02 ("SAVED BY GRACE AND GRACE ALONE")
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To: xzins
There is nothing in the passages you cited that says that tongues must be a "spiritual language."

I haven't claimed it is a spiritual language.

40 posted on 02/04/2006 4:51:54 AM PST by Always Right
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