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Students say church arsons meant as ‘a joke’
NBC News ^ | March 8, 2006

Posted on 03/08/2006 11:03:17 AM PST by presidio9

Two college students arrested Wednesday in a string of nine rural Alabama church arsons told authorities that the first fires were set as “a joke” and later blazes were intended as a diversion, federal agents said.

A third college student was arrested later Wednesday in the serial arsons, according to WVTM-TV of Birmingham.

Benjamin Nathan Moseley and Russell Lee Debusk Jr., both students at Birmingham-Southern College, appeared in federal court Wednesday and were ordered held on church arson charges pending a hearing Friday.

Matthew Lee Cloyd, reportedly a student at the University of Alabama in Birmingham, was arrested midday, the WVTM reported.

An ATF affidavit said Moseley told agents on Wednesday that he, Cloyd and Debusk went to Bibb County in Cloyd’s Toyota sport utility vehicle on Feb. 2 and set fire to five churches. A witness quoted Cloyd as saying Moseley did it “as a joke and it got out of hand,” according to the affidavit.

Moseley also told agents the four church fires in west Alabama were set “as a diversion to throw investigators off,” an attempt that “obviously did not work,” the affidavit said.

Arson investigators scheduled an afternoon news conference at the Tuscaloosa airport to discuss the arrests.

The first two suspects were arrested Tuesday night, NBC’s Pete Williams reported.

WVTM-TV, citing the state fire marshal’s office, said the two are students at Birmingham Southern College and were arrested at a college dorm.

The federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives made the Alabama church arson case a top priority as scores of agents joined state and local law officers in the probe.

Authorities analyzed tire tracks and traced the purchase of the tires to

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A federal source said the apparent motive was that the three students just liked to set and watch fires.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
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To: LIConFem

I would say both.


101 posted on 03/08/2006 1:03:44 PM PST by sport
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To: presidio9
Former JAY BENNISH students no doubt!!

Human geography and fire graduates.

102 posted on 03/08/2006 1:04:04 PM PST by PISANO (We will not tire......We will not falter.......We will NOT FAIL!!! .........GW Bush [Oct 2001])
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To: presidio9

Aw....man...I must've missed the "dead" part. Someone shoulda told me....


103 posted on 03/08/2006 1:06:39 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: presidio9

Hrmpt,
You know me silly,

I would bury the poor dead kitty, not swing it!


104 posted on 03/08/2006 1:07:51 PM PST by najida (Somedays you're the mud, other days the pig. Either way, you can sit in the sunshine and dry out ;))
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To: presidio9

Nope, thought about it, and think I'm right. Liberals hate the catholic church, but gay men do not. Heck, they've infested the place.

Just like the boy scouts. Liberals hate them, but gay males are silent. They want in.


105 posted on 03/08/2006 1:08:46 PM PST by MonroeDNA (Look for the union label--on the bat crashing through your windshield!)
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To: presidio9

"A witness quoted Cloyd as saying Moseley did it “as a joke and it got out of hand,” according to the affidavit.

"Moseley also told agents the four church fires in west Alabama were set “as a diversion to throw investigators off,” an attempt that “obviously did not work,” the affidavit said."

Obviously these guys are majoring in logic and processes.


106 posted on 03/08/2006 1:11:27 PM PST by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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To: Albion Wilde
Their parents must be so proud...

Mortified would be my guess. One could assume the parents are successful business types as Birmingham Southern is quite expensive. We're looking at $30K per year for tuition, room and board.

107 posted on 03/08/2006 1:12:33 PM PST by Quilla
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To: MonroeDNA
Heck, they've infested the place.

Fallacious stereotype. Gays openly and vocally hate the Catholic Church. I can think of any number of gay protests at St. Patrick's in NYC as examples. Priests are men, but Catholic theology is particularly intolerant of homosexuality. You should check the facts once in a while before spouting your ignorance.

108 posted on 03/08/2006 1:12:50 PM PST by presidio9 ("Bird Flu" is the new Y2K Virus -Only without the inconvenient deadline.)
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To: presidio9

Here's your vaseline boys, laugh it up.


109 posted on 03/08/2006 1:14:10 PM PST by katana
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To: presidio9

Not sure, but I think several of the churches Bill Clinton attended as a child were torched.

As were the churches of his teachers, (black( friends, etc.


110 posted on 03/08/2006 1:16:40 PM PST by Sometimes A River (allow Common Sense and Faith to trump Logic and Reason)
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To: Quilla

Moseley's father is a Constable in Jefferson County, AL. I imagine he's not amused at his son's "joke."


111 posted on 03/08/2006 1:17:02 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: oyez

Jail and Prison are a lot different from each other.


112 posted on 03/08/2006 1:18:44 PM PST by Sometimes A River (allow Common Sense and Faith to trump Logic and Reason)
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To: All

CONSTABLE DISTRICT NO. 44
with 16 of 16 Precincts counted (100.00%)
Votes Percent
STEPHEN A. MOSELEY (REP) 15,788 76.13%
WRITE-IN 175 0.84%
OVER VOTES 0 0.00%
UNDER VOTES 4,774 23.02%


Stephen Moseley is the father of Ben Moseley. It's gonna get ugly.


113 posted on 03/08/2006 1:19:10 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: presidio9
"Two college students arrested Wednesday in a string of nine rural Alabama church arsons told authorities that the first fires were set as “a joke” and later blazes were intended as a diversion, federal agents said."

Really funny.

I hope they spend the next several years of their lives in a prison with somebody named Big DeShawn as a cell mate. That would be really hysterical.
114 posted on 03/08/2006 1:21:23 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: MineralMan

Constables must pull in the big bucks. I've got two kids in college right now and am hyperventilating at Birmingham Southern's fees.


115 posted on 03/08/2006 1:21:33 PM PST by Quilla
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To: Quilla

"Constables must pull in the big bucks."

Actually, according to the newscast I saw, Moseley got a full-ride scholarship from the drama department, so big bucks weren't needed, apparently.

I have no idea what an Alabama Constable does, to tell you the truth.


116 posted on 03/08/2006 1:31:58 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: All
What a shocker! One of the DUers knows one of the arsonists. A theater kid, played guitar and partied.

Phelan (187 posts) Wed Mar-08-06 07:07 PM
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…I graduated from BSC and actually know one of the people that is involved, I'm shocked that he would do such a thing. he ruined his life... He was was probably one of the most popular kids on campus from what I recall, a theater kid with loads for friends, played guitar in public places a lot, was at every party on campus etc. FBI got their profile very wrong...but they are all over campus from what I hear...

117 posted on 03/08/2006 1:34:57 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: presidio9

They are drama students. Are they gay? Gays hate Fundamentalist churches.


118 posted on 03/08/2006 1:36:39 PM PST by Palladin ("Governor Lynn Swann."...it has a nice ring to it!)
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To: PISANO
Human geography

Is that something like Ethno-biology?

119 posted on 03/08/2006 1:37:19 PM PST by oyez (Appeasement is insanity)
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To: newzjunkey

I think a great punch line for this "joke" will be the veeeerrrrrry long prison sentence they each get.


120 posted on 03/08/2006 1:41:24 PM PST by generally (Ask me about FReepers Folding@Home)
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