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Putin accused of plagiarising his PhD thesis
timesonline ^ | March 26, 2006 | Tony Allen-Mills

Posted on 03/25/2006 10:19:43 PM PST by ncountylee

THE career of President Vladimir Putin of Russia was built at least in part on a lie, according to US researchers. A new study of an economics thesis written by Putin in the mid-1990s has revealed that large chunks of it were copied from an American text.

Putin was labelled a plagiarist yesterday after a pair of researchers at the Brookings Institution, a Washington DC think tank, established that the Russian president’s academic credentials were based on a dissertation he had lifted in part verbatim from the Russian translation of a management study written by two professors at the University of Pittsburgh in 1978.

According to the Kremlin’s official biography, Putin, 53, obtained a PhD in economics from the St Petersburg Mining Institute in 1997. But the US researchers also established that his thesis was for a lesser degree that would not have entitled him to a full doctorate.

The embarrassing revelation that Putin, a former KGB agent, may have cheated and lied about his qualifications follows a long search by US scholars for evidence of the president’s academic prowess. A copy of the thesis was eventually located in the electronic files of a Moscow technical library.

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1 posted on 03/25/2006 10:19:44 PM PST by ncountylee
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To: ncountylee
"Senator Joe Biden has never recovered from allegations that he stole sections of a 1988 speech by Neil Kinnock, the former Labour leader "

Run Joe, run.

2 posted on 03/25/2006 10:21:28 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: ncountylee
"The embarrassing revelation that Putin, a former KGB agent, may have cheated and lied about his qualifications follows a long search by US scholars for evidence of the president’s academic prowess."

His whole life is based on cheating and lies. What's a little doctoring on a ph.d thesis?

3 posted on 03/25/2006 10:25:16 PM PST by jdm
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To: jdm
His whole life is based on cheating and lies.


"Are you talking about me?"

4 posted on 03/25/2006 11:56:38 PM PST by Polybius
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To: Stellar Dendrite

bump


5 posted on 03/26/2006 8:15:35 AM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: ncountylee

Ripping off American research is a timeless Russian tradition... after all isn't the greatest Russian inventor Regus Patoff?


6 posted on 03/26/2006 8:17:34 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: ncountylee; Grampa Dave

"the issue is not taken especially seriously in Russia, which is second only to China as a producer of pirated copyright goods..."


7 posted on 03/26/2006 8:58:29 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: jdm

You're right.. in addition...I worked in research laboratory.. we made program, technology of extraction Scandium..21-st element of periodic table..all work had been done by Mikhail Klushnikov..Soviet government gave to him "State premium".. but when I looked at newspaper informantion about it...ten persons from Ministry, main institute etc were listed as competitor... Mikhail Klushnikom was last in the end of list
What you want from Putin?
He was communist..it means he was complete scoundrel (bastad) and no more...


8 posted on 03/26/2006 10:15:46 AM PST by nativeRussian
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To: jdm

You're right.. in addition...I worked in research laboratory.. we made program, technology of extraction Scandium..21-st element of periodic table..all work had been done by Mikhail Klushnikov..Soviet government gave to him "State premium".. but when I looked at newspaper informantion about it...ten persons from Ministry, main institute etc were listed as competitor... Mikhail Klushnikom was last in the end of list
What you want from Putin?
He was communist..it means he was complete scoundrel (bastad) and no more...


9 posted on 03/26/2006 10:15:53 AM PST by nativeRussian
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To: nativeRussian

It's a trend that continues today - the quickest way to get the coveted "red diploma" (with honors) is to ensure your board gets cake, vodka, or other "tributes" when you're defending your thesis. Plus, you can buy an advanced degree from just about any well-known university down in the perekhod at the end of Staryj Arbat.

That Putin, or anyone else graduating from a Soviet or Post-Soviet university may have cheated is not in the least surprising. It'd happen more here in the US if it was easier to get away with.


10 posted on 03/26/2006 11:30:33 AM PST by Romanov
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To: ncountylee
"Senator Joe Biden has never recovered from allegations that he stole sections of a 1988 speech by Neil Kinnock, the former Labour leader "

Run Joe, run.

---
For President of the Russian Federation.
11 posted on 03/26/2006 1:10:52 PM PST by Cheburashka (World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
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To: lizol; Lukasz; strategofr; GSlob; spanalot; Thunder90; Tailgunner Joe; propertius; REactor; ...

ping


12 posted on 03/26/2006 2:40:41 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite (UAE-- Funds HAMAS and CAIR, check my homepage [UPDATED FREQUENTLY])
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To: nativeRussian
Reading Vasili Mitrokhin and Christopher Andrew's archives of Soviet documents gives you the impression that the USSR's effectiveness and efficiency at espionage wasn't matched by a commensurate desire on the part of the Soviet leadership to foster the sort of values that spur scientific and technological achievement.

Even after the West began to loosen restrictions on research, and Gorbachev initiated a so-called policy of "glasnost" the gap between the Soviet Union and the West accelerated, because the base of any scientific, intellectual progress had been effectively destroyed by five+ decades of Stalinism.

13 posted on 03/26/2006 2:46:38 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: Stellar Dendrite

About AD 1400 Duke Louis of Orleans was complaining about the infestation of "people of low degrees and doubtful birth". Not much has changed since.


14 posted on 03/26/2006 2:52:09 PM PST by GSlob
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To: ncountylee

"THE career of President Vladimir Putin of Russia was built at least in part on a lie, according to US researchers. A new study of an economics
thesis written by Putin in the mid-1990s has revealed that large chunks of it were copied from an American text.

Putin was labelled a plagiarist yesterday after a pair of researchers at the Brookings Institution, a Washington DC think tank, established that the Russian president’s academic credentials were based on a dissertation he had lifted in part verbatim from the Russian translation of a management study written by two professors at the University of Pittsburgh in 1978."

Actually, in the KGB, a performance like this is considered a plus.


15 posted on 03/26/2006 6:22:48 PM PST by strategofr (Hillary stole 1000+ secret FBI files on DC movers & shakers, Hillary's Secret War, Poe, p. xiv)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

"Reading Vasili Mitrokhin and Christopher Andrew's archives of Soviet documents gives you the impression that the USSR's effectiveness and efficiency at espionage wasn't matched by a commensurate desire on the part of the Soviet leadership to foster the sort of values that spur scientific and technological achievement.

Even after the West began to loosen restrictions on research, and Gorbachev initiated a so-called policy of "glasnost" the gap between the Soviet Union and the West accelerated, because the base of any scientific, intellectual progress had been effectively destroyed by five+ decades of Stalinism."

I don't know who Christopher Andrews is, but I never liked Mitrokhen much as a source. Not enough to meat there for a man who was supposedly involved with administering the KGB archives. Nor is his story credible. Trucking around copies of KGB files and storing them in his farm for a decade or wherever it was.


16 posted on 03/26/2006 6:26:35 PM PST by strategofr (Hillary stole 1000+ secret FBI files on DC movers & shakers, Hillary's Secret War, Poe, p. xiv)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

"Even after the West began to loosen restrictions on research, and Gorbachev initiated a so-called policy of "glasnost" the gap between the Soviet Union and the West accelerated, because the base of any scientific, intellectual progress had been effectively destroyed by five+ decades of Stalinism."

Actually, it seems to me that the US has been surprised by the effectiveness of some Soviet weapons that have appeared in recent years. They seem to be copying some of the stuff that stolen pretty well---and even adding some clever twists sometimes. I don't know weaponry well so I'll admit I can't come up with any specific examples. Perhaps I can be commented on by others.


17 posted on 03/26/2006 6:28:14 PM PST by strategofr (Hillary stole 1000+ secret FBI files on DC movers & shakers, Hillary's Secret War, Poe, p. xiv)
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To: strategofr

http://www.aim.org/publications/media_monitor/2004/03/03.html


18 posted on 03/26/2006 6:32:00 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

"Even after the West began to loosen restrictions on research, and Gorbachev initiated a so-called policy of "glasnost" the gap between the Soviet Union and the West accelerated, because the base of any scientific, intellectual progress had been effectively destroyed by five+ decades of Stalinism."

In addition, as Golitsyn (high-ranking KGB defector, 1961) has explained in great detail, Stalinism was completely dead by 1957---in no way did it last 50 years. Having completely terminated Stalinism, however, the international Communist movement (in a series of meetings in Moscow in in 1957 through 1960) decided to fake its continuation---for the benefit of the West.

One key aspect of Stalinism was Stalin's idea that Russia had to completely dominate all the Communist parties of the world. This is led to the break with China. This break, however, was completely patched up in the 1957 to 1960 meetings. However, the two countries decided to continue their dispute on a fake level to suck in the U. S.---which worked, according to Golitsyn---when Nixon went to China around 1970 or so.

By opposing Nixon's move, Golitsyn undermined his own credibility in the US government and became effectively exiled from the US intelligence community.


19 posted on 03/26/2006 6:32:44 PM PST by strategofr (Hillary stole 1000+ secret FBI files on DC movers & shakers, Hillary's Secret War, Poe, p. xiv)
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To: strategofr
Okay, let me rephrase that.

The byproducts of Stalinism.

The purges and witch-hunts conducted by Andropov as head of the KGB, and the endless expansionism embodied by the Brezhnev Doctrine, were expressions of Stalinism, even if it went by a different name.

The refusal to abide by the protocols of the Helsinki Accords, persecuting political dissidents and/or refuseniks like Natan Sharansky and Andrei Sakharov, artistic/literary giants like Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, Nureyev, Mikhail Baryshnikov, etc., these were all manifestations of a condition known as Leninsim/Stalinism, which the Soviet Union never completely abandoned.

20 posted on 03/26/2006 6:43:12 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: Romanov

"That Putin, or anyone else graduating from a Soviet or Post-Soviet university may have cheated is not in the least surprising. It'd happen more here in the US if it was easier to get away with."

I am sick and tired of you and your ilk claiming that there is no difference between the US and Russia - I think you are a Kremlin troll and I don't believe you are retiring this month from the Army and Air Force.


21 posted on 03/26/2006 7:37:57 PM PST by spanalot
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

That's what happens to a society when they've stolen technology and reversed engineered it. They don't have a basis upon which to rely on and troubleshooting problems becomes a huge issue.


22 posted on 03/26/2006 8:03:32 PM PST by Romanov
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To: spanalot

I suggest you invest in some reading comprehension training. You've once again misrepresented what I said.

BTW, is it your position that cheating does not occur on university campuses? Or are all those cheating scandals fabrications?

If you think an American wouldn't cheat to get a degree you are sadly and unfortunately mistaken. There is plenty of press, data, and studies available that prove this point. Might I also remind you that there are tons of liberals attending liberal colleges and doing things that liberals are wont to do - cheating, drug taking, etc. Merely pointing this fact out does not in any way, shape, or form, infer that the U.S. is the same as Russia.

Furthermore, the ability to recognize our (American) problems does not equate to shilling for the Russians. That's what makes America great. The right to discuss our plusses and minuses openly. And the ability to solve these problem areas.

When you equate criticism of bad things that happen in the US with treason you end up using Stalinist tactics - after all, according to the Soviets there was NOTHING bad in the Soviet Union and those who claimed bad things were happening were labeled traitors.


23 posted on 03/26/2006 8:19:14 PM PST by Romanov
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To: Romanov
I wish I had the lifetime pension spanalot says you're not going to receive. :)
24 posted on 03/26/2006 9:24:22 PM PST by GarySpFc (de oppresso liber)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

"Ripping off American research is a timeless Russian tradition.."

I know.

Every single time I see a photo of the Buran, it just pisses me off BIG TIME.

But, I feel a sigh of relief when I realize that these liars, cheaters and thieves clearly did NOT win.

If Putin plagiarized, then it is merely a matter of time before he loses all credibility as a leader.

Countless Russian military atrocities in Grozny, the Beslan school massacre, nuclear sales with Iran and his Stalinesque fist toward the media are already nails in his coffin.

Hopefully this will turn out to be one more.


25 posted on 03/26/2006 10:57:33 PM PST by Emmet Fitzhume ("Never do what your enemy expects you to do.")
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To: ncountylee

IMO 5 pages of 218-page thesis do not make all the thesis plagiarism.

Every thesis must have science sources and basis. It's impossible to make a dissertation from zero.


26 posted on 03/26/2006 11:51:02 PM PST by vertolet
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

"The refusal to abide by the protocols of the Helsinki Accords, persecuting political dissidents and/or refuseniks like Natan Sharansky and Andrei Sakharov, artistic/literary giants like Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, Nureyev, Mikhail Baryshnikov, etc., these were all manifestations of a condition known as Leninsim/Stalinism, which the Soviet Union never completely abandoned."

I agree and please excuse me for speaking in a narrow context. Your usage of the term is more correct than mine in terms of "general usage", which is the correct criteria for language. I should've made my point in another way.


27 posted on 03/27/2006 5:18:02 AM PST by strategofr (Hillary stole 1000+ secret FBI files on DC movers & shakers, Hillary's Secret War, Poe, p. xiv)
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To: Emmet Fitzhume
Every single time I see a photo of the Buran, it just pisses me off BIG TIME.

You'll love the TU-4 "Bull" then.


28 posted on 03/27/2006 5:19:12 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham
=the gap between the Soviet Union and the West accelerated, because the base of any scientific, intellectual progress had been effectively destroyed by five+ decades of Stalinism.=
Lenin exiled to Europa many Russian scientist's, philosophers and intellectual people (the story about two passenger-ships full with intellectual people in 1922).
New learned society was created in devastated Russia where 80% population were illiterate absolutely.
1924-1953 were years of Stalin's reign (by the way +3 decades only). It was terrible time undoubtedly, but it was time of renovation of the state include creation of "socialistic science".
All Stalin's successors only wasted up to breakdown of the state. We all hate ruthless time of Stalin's reign but let us face it and be equitable with history.
29 posted on 03/27/2006 6:24:01 AM PST by nativeRussian
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To: Emmet Fitzhume
=Every single time I see a photo of the Buran, it just pisses me off BIG TIME. =
Please, read old discussion on
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1529935/posts
and you'll see something new for yourself
30 posted on 03/27/2006 6:34:09 AM PST by nativeRussian
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To: nativeRussian

"=Every single time I see a photo of the Buran, it just pisses me off BIG TIME. =
Please, read old discussion on
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1529935/posts
and you'll see something new for yourself."

Wow - that is alot of blown up roof due to maintenence problems! It looks like the Russskies could not read the instructions that they stole.


31 posted on 03/27/2006 8:23:00 AM PST by spanalot
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Wait till you see Tu-160 a complete copy of B1-B made possible by Putin's colleagues :)


32 posted on 03/27/2006 8:28:23 AM PST by b2stealth
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To: spanalot
Yes, sir!! Only Russia has such stupid government composed of former communist & comsomolets who are always ready to sell out even own state completely or to throw out results of labor thousands people like with "Buran" case.
33 posted on 03/27/2006 9:31:42 AM PST by nativeRussian
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To: b2stealth
=Wait till you see Tu-160 a complete copy of B1-B made possible by Putin's colleagues =
Most likely it is impossible, because both aircrafts are under military secret. Let's compare Russian steam locomotives which certainly were duplicated from American.. it will flatter yours American vanity much more.
34 posted on 03/27/2006 9:41:47 AM PST by nativeRussian
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To: nativeRussian
Magic of the Internet -

Tu-160

B1-B

Hm..

35 posted on 03/27/2006 11:08:11 AM PST by b2stealth
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To: nativeRussian

Ahh - another Putie troll.


36 posted on 03/27/2006 4:01:16 PM PST by spanalot
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To: b2stealth; spanalot

=Magic of the Internet =
Yes, we can find out ALL in the Internet, for example:
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/2006-03-23-strategic-missile-threat_x.htm


37 posted on 03/27/2006 7:15:56 PM PST by nativeRussian
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To: nativeRussian

Why do you post random articles???


38 posted on 03/29/2006 6:07:50 AM PST by b2stealth
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To: b2stealth

Its called a "Straw Dog"


39 posted on 04/01/2006 9:40:21 AM PST by spanalot
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To: b2stealth

"Wait till you see Tu-160 a complete copy of B1-B made possible by Putin's colleagues :) "

The Tu-160 definitely has a lot of resemblance to the B1-B, but there are also substantial differences. Basically, the Russians made the Tu-160 bigger and faster than the B-1B. Some points of comparison:

Engine thrust per engine: 30,000lbs (B1B) vs 55,000lbs (Tu160)

Gross takeoff weight, max: 477,000lbs (B1B) vs 600,000lbs (Tu160)

Wingspan (extended): 137ft (B1B) vs 182ft (Tu160)

Length: 146ft (B1B) vs 178ft (Tu160)

Speed: 900mph (B1B**) vs 1400mph (Tu160)

Unrefueled ranges and internal bomb loads end up being similar, though.

**The B1A had a top speed of ~1450mph at 50,000ft. This feature was removed in the B1B production model.

The Tu160 and the B1B are rather like the Buran and US shuttle: strikingly similar on the surface, but with significant differences under the hood. The Tu160 definitely isn't a rivet-for-rivet copy of American hardware like the Tu4 Bull.


40 posted on 04/26/2006 1:00:02 PM PDT by cray74
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To: cray74

Both Buran (Shuttle) and Tu-160 (B1-B) were stolen from the US, it is open information now. Russians usually made some changes to everything stolen to make it bigger (only exception was Joe-1).


41 posted on 04/26/2006 1:47:57 PM PDT by b2stealth
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