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McCain hails immigration march
New York DailyNews ^ | April 1, 2006 | Leslie Casimir and Leo Standora

Posted on 04/02/2006 8:01:12 AM PDT by rcocean

Sen. John McCain gave a big thumbs up last night to demonstrators planning to march across the Brooklyn Bridge today in support of comprehensive immigration reform. "If such demonstrations continue, I think we will have a bill for the President to sign soon," the Arizona Republican declared at an Irish and American flag-studded town hall meeting in the Bronx sponsored by the Irish Lobby for Immigration Reform.

"The more debate, the more demonstrations, the more likely we will prevail," he told more than 3,000 cheering supporters - many clad in green-and-white shirts - who packed the St. Barnabas High School auditorium in Wakefield

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; borderlist; illegalimmigration; immigration; johnmccain; mccain; reconquista
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To: rcocean

I just wonder what Guilianni's stand on this issue is. I don't agree with him on some issues but I am guessing he may be tough on this one.


21 posted on 04/02/2006 8:21:26 AM PDT by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: rcocean
The last time guys with special interests wanted to split our USA like the map below we fought a Civil War to stop the division.

Maybe, it's time for patriots to again arm and fight. We also need a federal government lead by a modern day Lincoln who will not flinch and will stay the course to victory. The 2008 election has more importance than ever if we conservatives want the USA to survive.


22 posted on 04/02/2006 8:23:11 AM PDT by RicocheT
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To: Adiemus
"we at least know where they stand."

I infuriate my husband every time I remind him that at least you know where the Democrats are going to take the country. Yes, they lie because most people would not vote for them if they told us where they want to go, but we already know. The Republicans are no different. Most of them don't tell voters they want to go to the same place as the Democrats do, just a little slower getting to that Communist open borders Utopia.

As for a "death wish," I think it's for us, not them.

23 posted on 04/02/2006 8:24:55 AM PDT by penowa
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To: rcocean
“I 'doan need no 'steeenkink McCain!”
24 posted on 04/02/2006 8:25:46 AM PDT by johnny7 (“Nah, I ain’t Jewish, I just don’t dig on swine, that’s all.”)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland
I could not vote for him either, not in a Chinese minute.
25 posted on 04/02/2006 8:26:01 AM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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To: VMSguy

I think you have to accept as fact that McCain is mentally disordered and should probably be locked in a rubber room somewhere.


26 posted on 04/02/2006 8:26:13 AM PDT by kimosabe31
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To: VMSguy
Why would McCain, who paid a tough price serving his country, be so anti-American.

Could be senile, but then again there are conspiracy theories stating that select Vietnam POW's were taken to Russia for professional programming. Just throwing out a wacky theory here that unfortunately seems to fit his behavior pattern. The theories come from defected Russian agents so take them with a grain of salt.

27 posted on 04/02/2006 8:27:38 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: rlmorel
I agree with you whole heartedly.

I am a legal immigrant and I did things by the book.

It is a slap in the face for people like me ,to see that illegals get preferential treatment in this bill.

Legal immigrants pay taxes,SS and obey the law,while illegals do nothing to support any of this.

It makes me angry,since I had to pay fees and endure background checks,before being able to come to the US.

And now that I want to get my citizenship, I have to pay more fees for the Application and endure more background checks,while the Democrats want amnesty for the illegals.

I have been in the USA for almost 20 Years and I think that is enough time for a legal immigrant to get his citizenship without having to pay for it,especially if they have been law abiding.JMO.

I am willing to pay to be a citizen of this great nation and just wanted to point out this injustice.
28 posted on 04/02/2006 8:29:20 AM PDT by Mrs.Nooseman (Proud supporter of our Troops and President GW!!!)
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To: rcocean

What is wrong with them? They are pandering for votes, I think. If he thinks he can be voted in, he has a big surprise coming.


29 posted on 04/02/2006 8:29:27 AM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: VMSguy
I have asked myself these questions and I finally understand as to why they are going to sell out the American people,they are looking at the fastest growing block of voters and they want their votes! Both parties see the power in the hispanic vote. But neither party is thinking of the votes they may be losing. Power has always been preferred over loyalty or the law. But if I were from another country and didn't want to wait to come into this country I would consider filing a discrimination suit just to see what would happen. I would want to challenge the US government why are the Mexicans preferred over those from say Germany or what ever.
30 posted on 04/02/2006 8:29:47 AM PDT by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: All

Calm Down.

The number 1 item in the President's proposal is Border Security. Almost all of the rest of BOTH the House and Senate bills can be tossed out because Border Security will take care of EVEN THOSE ALREADY HERE.

You see, many of those will self deport. They will have a parent die and attend the funeral. They will long to visit family and will go do so. Once they do, they can't get back in.

Frankly, the President's plan would be fine. It's all a matter of emphasis. Border Security is listed 1st, but it should also be talked about more than anything else. A strict guest worker plan will not encourage more influx if border security is good. I think most would accept some sort of guest worker plan, but let's arrange it to be on a schedule and that schedule would be . . . perhaps starting 3-4 years after Border Security has reduced the influx by 90% or some statistic like that.

Note that if the influx stops, the guest worker plan will have fewer and fewer participants as they endure their strict criminal punishment, pay their debt to society as former lawbreakers and become citizens.


31 posted on 04/02/2006 8:31:47 AM PDT by Owen
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To: rcocean

I will work tirelessly to see Senator McLame defeated in the presidential primaries.


32 posted on 04/02/2006 8:32:13 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: Altair333

Post 12, "I'm really starting [to think] McCain is planning to run as a third party candidate" may have unmasked the secret plan.

Another Ross Perot like third party candidate in 2008 will guarantee the Democrats win, even if they run a lighting rod like Hillary. McPain is just enough of a nut job to do the third party stab in the back. If he is promised TV time and money by Hillary, he just may do it.

Then, we are in trouble big time.


33 posted on 04/02/2006 8:32:24 AM PDT by RicocheT
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To: rcocean

All this concern about non citizens. Is the Mccainiac running for secretary general of the UN or something?


34 posted on 04/02/2006 8:33:10 AM PDT by metalurgist (Believe in my God or I will kill you! The cry of all religious extremists.)
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To: rcocean

I'd be fascinated to ask McCain to describe who he thinks his core supporter is.


35 posted on 04/02/2006 8:33:33 AM PDT by DManA
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To: rcocean

I said on another thread that I was going to vote for McCain in 2008 because I liked his stands on the war on terror and the deficit, and I thought he could beat whoever the Democrats put up.

After reading this thread, I just changed my mind.


36 posted on 04/02/2006 8:35:33 AM PDT by Our man in washington
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To: RicocheT
Then, we are in trouble big time

Need to have him recalled. The action alone will tarnish him.

37 posted on 04/02/2006 8:37:11 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: rcocean
"The more debate, the more demonstrations, the more likely we will prevail,"

McCain has revealed himself by this statement -- he no longer, or perhaps he never did, believe in democratic rule where the majority of Americans (legal Americans) get to have their way on these issues. He, and fellow members of the wealthy, oligarchic ruling elite, have done away with the need for amassing public opinion on his side to get his preferred globalist policies enacted and has substituted rule by the intimidation of his mob. McCain along with George Bush and every President and Congressperson for the past 30 years has sold us out on the most fundamental American political principle that exists -- the right of the people to govern themselves.

The desire of the overwhelming majority of American citizens to have our borders controlled and to prevent businesses from hiring illegal aliens has been autocratically overruled by our elected officials and the media and business elites for decades despite the fact that Congress has passed laws that make these activities illegal. They (Congress) have played a game with every President in which they passed laws against illegal immigration (to give themselves cover with the electorate) but then they don't demand that the President enforce them.

Since both parties are agreed on not giving the American people what they so desperately want on this issue, no elected official has had to pay a price for this and even if "the people" were to kick one out of office, his replacement would be equally pro-illegal. They really do not care what "we the people" want on this issue and they do not care that they are driving a stake into the central accomplishment of the American revolution -- self-government. They, and their internationally minded financial masters, have succeeded in effecting a coup from above to overturn the results of American revolution and impose arbitrary rule by an oligarchic elite.

The question is whether "we the people" will let this stand or whether we will take up Benjamin Franklin's challenge to us to preserve our republic and our right to self-government. George Bush took an oath of office to faithfully execute the laws of the land. He is the chief EXECUTIVE. It is his constitutional duty to enforce the laws and he has no right to pick and choose those laws he wants to enforce and to ignore those he doesn't personally like. This is what our self-governing system is all about. It is the people's will as expressed through our representatives in legislation that is supposed to decide these matters.

By his ongoing failure to enforce the democratically enacted laws against illegal immigration and his constant attempt to force amnesty programs on an unwilling citizenry President Bush has shown his contempt both for democratic self-governance and the American people. His arrogant refusal to perform his constitutional duty should be met with the one remedy provided by the Constitution to protect the people against the usurpation of their legislative authority -- impeachment. It is now well past time for "we the people" to demand that Congress reassert our rights of to self-government guaranteed to us by Article IV of the constitution.

38 posted on 04/02/2006 8:39:26 AM PDT by politeia
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To: kimosabe31

In March 1999, McCain tried to pass a resolution thru congress directing clintoon to send US ground troops into Kosovo to fight for the muslims. Of course he was on the albanian payroll at the time and probably still is.


39 posted on 04/02/2006 8:44:33 AM PDT by kimosabe31
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To: Owen
"The number 1 item in the President's proposal is Border Security. Almost all of the rest of BOTH the House and Senate bills can be tossed out because Border Security will take care of EVEN THOSE ALREADY HERE."

Sorry, but I ain't buyin' it. Bush's proposal and the Senate bill both allow legalization of those already here, which is just plain NOT ACCEPTABLE. If any legislation offers "a path to citizenship" OTHER than "go home and get in the LEGAL immigration process line", it is bogus.

40 posted on 04/02/2006 8:48:11 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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