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Assault underscores tension as Congress weighs immigration reform (Counter protestor beaten in ME)
boston.com news via drudge ^ | april 10, 2006 | boston.com news

Posted on 04/10/2006 2:41:54 PM PDT by blogblogginaway

PORTLAND, Maine --Dozens of people pressing for rights for illegal immigrants gathered for a peaceful demonstration on Monday just minutes after a counter-protestor was bloodied by a teenager who hid his face with a bandanna.

The attacker, described as a Hispanic teenager, went after one of three white people carrying signs arguing that illegals have no rights, police said.

As the teen fled, the victim dropped to the pavement after being hit with something heavy that the teen had carried, possibly in a sock or a bandanna, said Portland Police Sgt. Robin Gauvin. There were no arrests as of late afternoon.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Maine
KEYWORDS: aliens; assault; borderlist; borderops; illegalalienassaults; illegals; immigration; portland; travisbanned
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1 posted on 04/10/2006 2:41:56 PM PDT by blogblogginaway
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To: blogblogginaway

I remember first hearing the expression "welfare rights" a few decades ago. I thought ...what rights as the recipient of other people's money??? I guess we are now seeing the new "rights" for the 21st century. Most politicians are despicable and getting worse.


2 posted on 04/10/2006 2:45:20 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: blogblogginaway
"When you promote violence, you get violence," said the Rev. Virginia Maria Rincon, one of the organizers. "Our rally is about promoting a peaceful dialogue."

Hm. When conservatives say things like that, they're pilloried for blaming the victim.

3 posted on 04/10/2006 2:46:28 PM PDT by Grut
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To: blogblogginaway
"When you promote violence, you get violence," said the Rev. Virginia Maria Rincon, one of the organizers. "Our rally is about promoting a peaceful dialogue."

"Violence" is now defined as "opposing illegal immigration". Rincon is off her rocker.

4 posted on 04/10/2006 2:48:48 PM PDT by KStorm (The only thing that is truly progressive is the universe's inexorable march from falsehood to truth.)
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To: blogblogginaway; Dane

"The attacker, described as a Hispanic teenager, went after one of three white people."


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5 posted on 04/10/2006 2:50:29 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: taxed2death
"The attacker, described as a Hispanic teenager, went after one of three white people."

And I'm supposed to be surprised that sh!t like this doesn't happen during leftist directed protests how?

6 posted on 04/10/2006 2:53:09 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: blogblogginaway
I'll tell you what, let's have a compromise. The US of A will take the same laws as our pathetic, corrupt neighbor's to the south have as it goes for immigrants. That way all the good little one worlders will be happy, right? I would like to know what Mexico would do, if the illegals in their country marched and demanded better rights than their own citizens?
7 posted on 04/10/2006 2:55:46 PM PDT by bronxboy
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To: blogblogginaway
We don't have an Immigration problem!
We have a law enforcement problem that does little or nothing to curb CRIMINALS and INVADERS.
8 posted on 04/10/2006 3:01:43 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO")
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To: bronxboy

I find it ironic that they show pride in the country that they risked their lives to leave - and then demand greater rights than natives.


9 posted on 04/10/2006 3:02:30 PM PDT by HumanitysEdge (http://calc.homeip.net/humanedge.html)
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To: All

Move along, move along, nothing to see here, just keep moving, nothing happening, move along, move along,


10 posted on 04/10/2006 3:02:55 PM PDT by Jonah Johansen ("Coming soon to a neighborhood near you")
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To: All

Move along, move along, nothing to see here, just keep moving, nothing happening, move along, move along,


11 posted on 04/10/2006 3:02:58 PM PDT by Jonah Johansen ("Coming soon to a neighborhood near you")
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To: blogblogginaway
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12 posted on 04/10/2006 3:05:29 PM PDT by MammalModerate
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To: blogblogginaway

I am saying this on all the threads.

Our lawmakers need to begin investigating the organizers of these marches for being AGENTS OF A FOREIGN COUNTRY WITHOUT HAVING REGISTERED.

That means A<N<S<W<E<R< and Lulac, etc. My bet is they are all getting money from Cuba, Mexico, etc. And North Korea.

An investigation would make people see what is happening with the rallies.


13 posted on 04/10/2006 3:12:21 PM PDT by squarebarb
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To: blogblogginaway

Added keyword, "ILLEGALALIENASSAULTS."


14 posted on 04/10/2006 3:18:40 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: blogblogginaway

I noticed the involvement of a union, the SEIU (Service Employees International Union.) Government employee unions now dominate the AFL-CIO and I'm afraid legalizing the illegals is a union issue with unions backing the illegals.

Strange considering the issue involves "taking jobs away from Americans" including union members in the minds of many people.


15 posted on 04/10/2006 4:04:09 PM PDT by Nextrush (Communism died in the Soviet Union, but Cynthia McKinney is alive and well in Congress)
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To: afnamvet; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; antisocial; archy; backhoe; Badray; Bernard Marx; B4Ranch; t_skoz; ...
This is going to end in a bloody civil war.

I hope the illegal alien slave-traitors choke on their profits.

The cost of this unchecked invasion will be paid in our blood.


16 posted on 04/10/2006 5:24:15 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee
Our schools really do need to start teaching the true history of Communist revolutions and Che's story in particular.

These fools carry Che's picture around and have no idea how many of their kindred he killed while riding his motorcycle through South America.
17 posted on 04/10/2006 5:34:44 PM PDT by Pontiac (Ignorance of the law is no excuse, ignorance of your rights can be fatal.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
We don't have an Immigration problem! We have a law enforcement President problem that does little or nothing to curb CRIMINALS and INVADERS, DRUG DEALERS and TERRORISTS...

There, I fixed that for you...

18 posted on 04/10/2006 5:36:32 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Pontiac

He killed people in Cuba after his m/c trip.


19 posted on 04/10/2006 5:44:21 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee

People keep saying that we "cannot" find and deport 20 million illegals.

I have refrained to say this on FR but Hitler rounded up 6 or 7 million Jews and murdered them. So why can't America peacefully and safely deport 20 million illegals?

Further, Hitler was a lightweight by comparison to some of his buddies.



The Fruits of Gun Control The Totalitarian Body Count

The syndicated columnist, Walter Williams, who happens to be a college professor, has recently finished a study of governmental murder and has concluded that in the twentieth century far more people were killed by their own governments than died in war. Statistics are always questionable, but Williams' come out as follows:

Killed in Warfare: 39 million

Killed by Lenin and Stalin: 62 million

Killed by Mao Tse-tung: 35 million

Killed by Hitler: 21 million


20 posted on 04/10/2006 5:45:50 PM PDT by Eaker (My Wife Rocks! - There's no problem on the inside of a person that the outside of a dog can't cure.)
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To: blogblogginaway
There were no arrests as of late afternoon.

Why am I not surprised?!

21 posted on 04/10/2006 5:47:58 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Cementjungle
If I bashed in this illegal punks head after he threw the first punch, I'd be screwed for life. If they do it, the police don't even bother, knowing he'd just be let go.
--America needs a political revolution now, or we will forever be on the road toward becoming just like France.
22 posted on 04/10/2006 5:54:32 PM PDT by Shqipo (2006 is Bush Country!)
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To: Travis McGee
"The cost of this unchecked invasion will be paid in our blood."

Well, Travis, our job is to make sure there is more of their blood than ours.

A lot more.

23 posted on 04/10/2006 5:54:58 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: GeneralStorm; Grut

I was unable to google her. Anyone have an update as to who Rev. Virginia Maria Rincon is?


24 posted on 04/10/2006 5:59:33 PM PDT by Drango (A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: Eaker
I have refrained to say this on FR but Hitler rounded up 6 or 7 million Jews and murdered them. So why can't America peacefully and safely deport 20 million illegals?

The Jews were in Germany legally and were documented. Most had been in Germany for generations.

The Jews’ neighbors and town officials knew who the Jews were and were they lived.

Hitler did not have any problem with identifying who the Jews were or where they were.

25 posted on 04/10/2006 5:59:36 PM PDT by Pontiac (Ignorance of the law is no excuse, ignorance of your rights can be fatal.)
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To: Eaker

Jail 100 illegal alien slave-traitors under the present laws, and the criminal invaders will not be making any money.

Then cut them off from the great American Mammary Gland (free schools, medical, welfare, food stamps etc) and they will deport themselves.


26 posted on 04/10/2006 5:59:36 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Czar
A bloody civil war will be terrible for all Americans, but at this point, I think the only alternative is surrender.


27 posted on 04/10/2006 6:01:22 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Pontiac

Plus, the German Nazis didn't mess around when it came to registering everybody down to the last detail. They knew where everybody in every category lived. But it's a terrible example to use. See my last post about incentivizing self-deportation.


28 posted on 04/10/2006 6:03:15 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee

You are one of the few who grasp this ever higher probability. First they will get the right to vote. Second, by sheer numbers they will take over the governments of several states. Third, they will demand greater financial benefits-and there will ever increasing numbers of them flooding in. Fourth, their Mexican compatriots in the legislatures will vote ever increasing transfer payments( from us to them).Fifth, the wealth transfer shall not be fast enough and out right seizure shall begin.(The Mexicanized courts will of course be helping the wealth transfer through their 'judgements.") The few Anglos left in the Mexican dominated states will have some that resist confiscation. Off we go!


29 posted on 04/10/2006 6:04:42 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Iscool
We have a President problem

I believe the new correct term is Presidente.

30 posted on 04/10/2006 6:05:15 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Pontiac
Hitler did not have any problem with identifying who the Jews were or where they were.

We are being invaded by Mestizio(sp - I don't care) Indian Mexicans. I have very little problem picking the Mexicans invading America out of a crowd of Whites, Blacks or Asians. If Bush needs my advice I'll give him my cell number or he can stand on his southern fence in Crawford and see who is crossing everybody’s ranch but his.

Explain Hitler's buddies.

My main point is that is CAN be done.

31 posted on 04/10/2006 6:11:50 PM PDT by Eaker (My Wife Rocks! - There's no problem on the inside of a person that the outside of a dog can't cure.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

You should read my new book, you have already synthesized the plot. That red "torn USA" from above is the cover graphic.


32 posted on 04/10/2006 6:18:03 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee

It is not a terrible example.

It proves that is can be done.

I am not suggesting that it be done Hitler's way, but it can be done.

My employer has NO problem determining illegals from legals and neither does any other.

Go to Home Depot and tell me that you cannot figure out which are probably illegal. You won't catch them all, but the one's that walked there, are drinking beer on Sunday morning and pissing on the parking lot next to an exit might be a good place to start.


33 posted on 04/10/2006 6:19:19 PM PDT by Eaker (My Wife Rocks! - There's no problem on the inside of a person that the outside of a dog can't cure.)
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To: Eaker; Travis McGee; wardaddy

Fine employers found to be aiding or employing illegals as they coyote's they are 5K$ a day... 2/3'd of the illegals will walk back home. The rest we imprison for forgery of SSAN cards and Birth Certificates or shoot on the street in self defense as they turn to more crime to extend their time.

Clean out the trash from ones home and the cockroaches will leave of their own free will approach per se......

Every LEO in America should be empowered to enforce such a law, and every neighborhood or border watch volunteer should make a difference before we even get to the first fence post needed......

But by all means, build the fence with a monitored two way egress.....aka shit filter.

Simple and doable this afternoon as far as removing the food source for the insects. If each community cleans it's own house it's a start.

If a community is found to be hispandering to criminal invaders then cut off that communities, local, county, state and federal funding and make it a crime for anyone trying to provide them fiscal support.

And as stated before build one big massive joooooo style border fence that can't be defeated. Use the moneys allocated for illegals workmans comp, medical and welfare aid etc etc ..... Once it is built, that money goes back into a community for those that want to be Americans via the established protocol and those that already are Americans vs some hyphenated fence sitting virus we can't ever cure in the current form with out cutting it out with prejudice.


34 posted on 04/10/2006 6:20:36 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. )
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To: Travis McGee
"A bloody civil war will be terrible for all Americans,..."

It will. But our founders didn't shrink from it. Neither should we.

35 posted on 04/10/2006 6:22:13 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Squantos

This is the proposed 700 mile fence. This new fence is extremely tough, and resists cutting. Attacking the fence would have to be done right out in the open, in full view of cameras. This type of fence, on the U.S. side of the government road, will give the USBP a barrier to patrol, instead of forcing them to chase illegals around 100,000 square miles of wide-open frontier land, which is a fool's errand. Everywhere this modern multiple fence system has been built, crossings by illegals drop to almost nil.

This ain't rocket science, folks. We're not talking about something like the Hoover Dam project, (which we managed to build 70 years ago). The world's last superpower, which put a man on the moon 35 years ago, can build a couple thousand miles of simple and effective fencing.

This is how it's being built in San Diego county, along the last 14 miles out to the ocean. The total cost of the entire fence from the Gulf of Mexico to the Pacific would be about 5 billion dollars, or what we spend medicating, hospitalizing, educating, and incarcerating illegal aliens just about every month. In other words, the fence would pay for itself immediately.

36 posted on 04/10/2006 6:23:03 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Czar

We'll have no choice. Fight, or surrender.


37 posted on 04/10/2006 6:23:41 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Jack Black

I stand corrected...


38 posted on 04/10/2006 6:28:55 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Travis McGee
"We'll have no choice. Fight, or surrender."

Since there can be no surrender, the choice is thus made.

39 posted on 04/10/2006 6:29:14 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Travis McGee

The really hard part is the realization that only 2%-5% of Americans will actually fight. 95% - 98% will stand around waiting to see how it will come out then join up with the side that wins. God help us.


40 posted on 04/10/2006 6:29:27 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Travis McGee

Cool, I would love to see an automated system such as we saw in the construction of the Chunnel between France & the UK....Build it at 3 miles an hour at 20 different start points along the southern border, make sure it works and then wait for the environmental midgets to whine about it interrupting the migration of the pink footed slobersnook ferret er some crap like that.....

I have great hopes for the future for this nation and wish nothing but the best for those wanting to become Americans. And will till my death defend the nation and the process against all enemies , foreign and domestic.....

Doom on these anarchist handlers playing such games with their lives and ours !!


41 posted on 04/10/2006 6:31:57 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. )
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To: Travis McGee

I would suggest covering the ground between the fences with razor wire.

Do that and I think crossing the boarder over the fences would be a fools errand.


42 posted on 04/10/2006 6:43:38 PM PDT by Pontiac (Ignorance of the law is no excuse, ignorance of your rights can be fatal.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS; Czar

It was always thus. And if we lose, we'll be called criminals and hung.


43 posted on 04/10/2006 7:15:55 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Squantos

Start it at 20 points, and it'd be done in a few months.

Pitiful that the nation that built Hoover dam generations ago now thinks it can't be done.


44 posted on 04/10/2006 7:17:33 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; ...


Build the Fence Ping!

45 posted on 04/10/2006 7:43:24 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ www.proudpatriots.org ~ Serving Those Who Serve Us ~ Operation Easter/Passover ~)
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To: blogblogginaway

This event is only a taste of what is to come. Violence will occur. Eventually there will be troops and martial law. Only then there will be momentum to make the illegals leave.


46 posted on 04/10/2006 8:04:47 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Travis McGee
...if we lose, we'll be called criminals and hung

Aim small, miss small.

47 posted on 04/10/2006 8:15:12 PM PDT by Charles Martel
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To: Shqipo
America needs a political revolution now, or we will forever be on the road toward becoming just like France.

I agree. I feel somewhat betrayed by the GOP this time around, but a third party is too much of a longshot, so we MUST somehow hold them accountable.

48 posted on 04/10/2006 9:13:07 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Nachum; Travis McGee; B4Ranch; backhoe
This event is only a taste of what is to come. Violence will occur.

We have this story and a few more today of counter protesters being attacked and escorted out of harms way by police.

I believe the only reason we haven't seen more violence or all out riots is because the counter protesters have been few and far between, not because the protesters are peaceful. There just hasn't been a lot of opposition to them in the streets. Not yet.

They have already shown their propensity for violence at some of the Minuteman meetings. I while back on FR there was some video of them busting up the place where the Minutemen had gathered, turning over tables, pushing people around, throwing them on the ground, and getting very in your face with some nasty remarks.

Right now with the Senate caving in and trying to completely gut the House bill, they still have hope of winning this thing through the political process.

But failing that, I have little doubt that these protests will turn violent. Cities will burn, and people will die.

We might get lucky and avoid that, but I can't be sure if it isn't already too late. Nonetheless, surrender to the demands of foreign invaders is not an option. So, we must...

1. Secure the border. A fence, more Border Patrol, whatever it takes. Do it. No more fresh troops for this army of invaders.

2. Enforce the laws against the hiring of people who are in the country illegally. Right now that enforcement is nearly zero. That isn't going to cut it.

3. End catch and release. Catch and deport. Period. This is already proposed to begin in October, though I highly suspect that this is another ruse from the empty suits in DC. Which brings us to number...

4. This November, vote the RINO traitors OUT!

49 posted on 04/10/2006 9:50:52 PM PDT by planekT ([---www.wadejacoby.com/pedro---})
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To: bronxboy
I would like to know what Mexico would do, if the illegals in their country marched and demanded better rights than their own citizens?

Mexican officials work hard to make us take their overflow because they know these people would be demanding more rights there. Imagine what would happen if we did secure the borders and ship millions of illegals back home. The illegals marching in our streets today would be marching in the streets of Mexico tomorrow. They've had a taste of a better life and would demand a change in their homeland.

50 posted on 04/10/2006 10:02:55 PM PDT by Razz Barry
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