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Hamad Mir - "Terrorists will Use Nukes in America if U.S. Bombs Iran!"
Terrorism Press COnference ^ | 4-28-06 | Bob J

Posted on 04/28/2006 9:03:39 AM PDT by Bob J

In a just concluded debate and press conference, author and FBI Consultant Paul Williams and Jeff Epstein of "America's Truth Forum" reveal they have been advised by Pakistani journalist and Bin Laden biographer Hamid Amir that Al-Qaeda will use smuggled nukes against the US if the US takes military action against Iran.

Amir established his credentials by correctly predicting that Egypt would be hit by terrorist action a full two weeks prior to the events of last week. Amir, a Pakistani journalist, has been in contact with high ranking Al-Qaeda officials for several years.

The debate (between Richard Miniter and Paul Williams) and press conference were webcast LIVE by Rightalk.com. Audio files of both events will be available for downloading by this afternoon.


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: 4kooks; alqaedanukes; artbellstuff; globaljihad; hamadmir; iran; irannukes; iranstrikes; jihadinamerica; nukes; rightalk; terrorists; tinfoilhat
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To: Leatherneck_MT
It would seem well to reply that knowing your enemies is something the muzzies should remember as well, we did, after all, create the bomb to defeat Germany and Japan. What would we come up with if the terrorists use a nuke against our cities. It might be considerably worse.
401 posted on 04/28/2006 1:21:41 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy (It's a fight to the death with Democrats.)
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To: Star Traveler
"Well..., it goes like this. (1) Bomb exists, (2) Terrorist have desire to get bomb, (3) Terrorists have money to get bomb, (4) at some point, terrorists get bomb, (5) bomb goes "boom", (6) you're dead..."

Nope. If the Berrylium trigger is more than 53 days old, or the PO-210 trigger is more than 140 days old, then the bomb doesn't go boom.

Though you might get a fizzle.

402 posted on 04/28/2006 1:22:12 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: NAVY84

You said -- "We couldn't do that here anyway, profiling an all."

There's a lot that we're not supposed to be doing -- which is absolutely ridiculous. At some point (maybe when there's martial law) we'll dispense with the so-called "rules" and actuall defend ourselves and "win".

But, I'm afraid we'll have to be "half-dead" before that happens...

Regards,
Star Traveler


403 posted on 04/28/2006 1:23:46 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Carry_Okie
If a nuke makes it into the US via loose border control, the GOP is done politically.

If a nuke is set off in this country the last thing people will worry about is which one of these useless greedy bunch of out of touch politicians we hand our country over to in an election.

Our leaders constantly underestimate / ignore the determination and dedication of these followers of Islam.

That's why we have 3000 dead, the U.S.S. Cole, the Kobar Towers, Marine barracks,and the mightiest nation on the planet, with the finest men and women on earth stumbling around in a two-bit country 3 years after it should have been throughly subdued.

You can say what you want to about these monsters but they have a clear goal and a clear plan, no matter how insane it is and they are gaining ground and power at an ever increasing rate.

They are using violence, our political systems, our system of laws, our financial systems, our educational systems, our welfare systems, the very size of our military, our compassion for others, PC, a super propaganda effort and our own greed, all as weapons against us.

They are even using our taxpayer money in a lot of cases to finance the different areas of their campaign.

Right now they are winning while we are worrying about which crop of elite self-serving idiots we are going to put in charge of their primary target.

Do they have a bomb? I don't know and neither does any one else it appears.

Will they use one if they have it? I don't know that either.

But I do know based on their previous actions they won't let, PC, human deficiency,innocent lives, loss of a dollar, religious beliefs or any of the dozen or so reasons our leaders seem to find to keep from dealing with this scourge on humanity in a way that they fear, respect, or understand.

No none of the reasons we might find not to use our full military might will cause them one moment of hesitation.

They may be lying and not have one, or the ability to use one, but they ain't just talking a good game like our leaders are fond of, they have proven that time after time. At least to me.

Then again it don't seem to take near as many lost innocent lives to get the point across to me as it seems to with the political leaders of the world.

404 posted on 04/28/2006 1:24:21 PM PDT by mississippi red-neck (You will never win the war on terrorism by fighting it in Iraq and funding it in the West Bank.)
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To: Southack

You said -- "Nope. If the Berrylium trigger is more than 53 days old, or the PO-210 trigger is more than 140 days old, then the bomb doesn't go boom."

The problem here is that you talk *details* to the point of ignoring the big picture. It's the "big picture" that al-Qaida works from.

What I've always found out is that the *details* always work themselves out -- once you've decided on the big picture.

Arguing the details does nothing for the big picture. No matter what you put forward in details -- it's always the case that "where there's the will, there's a way".

That is what is going to happen with al-Qaida and the "bomb". It will go "boom" and there will be a lot of dead people and the country will probably go to martial law.

All I can hope -- at that time -- is that *finally* the country will decide to *totally destroy Islam*. If they don't then -- then the country deserves to die to the better opponent -- Islam...

Regards,
Star Traveler


405 posted on 04/28/2006 1:28:19 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler

Fortunately it is not that simple since Bush shut down Bombs-R-Us. These loons have as much chance of getting ahold of a Nuclear submarine as they do an A bomb.

Now I am sure there are plenty of enterprizing folks ready to sell them a "bomb" but it is really a bomb.

There are no "suitcase nukes" available. And the Murderous Minions of Mad Mo are on the run everywhere.

Since we have a real leader willing to attack this Nation's enemies these schmucks are limited to small scale attacks. Even Madrid pales in comparison to 911.


406 posted on 04/28/2006 1:30:12 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Star Traveler
"What I've always found out is that the *details* always work themselves out -- once you've decided on the big picture. Arguing the details does nothing for the big picture. No matter what you put forward in details -- it's always the case that "where there's the will, there's a way"."

Nonsense. The entire might of Nazi Germany couldn't get a nuclear bomb to work.

They had the will. They botched the math.

Get the math wrong, get the materials wrong, get the clean lab wrong, get the assembly process wrong, or get the maintenance wrong and you won't get the desired result.

407 posted on 04/28/2006 1:30:49 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

You said -- "What would we come up with if the terrorists use a nuke against our cities. It might be considerably worse."

Well..., one particular weapon that I heard about was one that was some kind of "ray" weapon. It gives you a big headache (true story). They should be shaking in their boots about now... :-)

Regards,
Star Traveler


408 posted on 04/28/2006 1:31:20 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Bob J

"We're also not going to nuke a bunch of civilians."

got that right.


409 posted on 04/28/2006 1:32:22 PM PDT by NAVY84 (The path of least resistance for Democrats is TREASON!)
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To: conservative physics
You must be kidding. Roman desecration of the Temple provoked a huge revolt and a long war. Read Josephus for a good description of it. After all was said and down the Jews were removed from the Holy Land.
410 posted on 04/28/2006 1:32:26 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Southack

You said -- "No trigger means...no big boom. You can get an explosive fizzle, not much more."

Perhaps I should have defined it further -- "trigger or no trigger discussion".

The point is "boom" will happen -- regardless of the details, because the *details* always follow the *decision*.

Regards,
Star Traveler


411 posted on 04/28/2006 1:33:02 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: repubzilla

You said "...Also thy have to follow Sahria Law. Thy must get essentially the "blessing" or the go ahead from a cleric or a number of clerics to OK the slaughter of innocent, non-combatives. They also must allow for a truce or submission. If this is ignored or refused the attitude is "well we covered all of our bases. The West has no one to blame but themselves." Kind of like the last few tapes that were out."

I see what you are driving at, but I think it is a false assumption that these people are going to adhere to some kind of law if it gets in their way. I really do not think these people are going to stop what they do if some collection of clerics say they cannot commit their acts of terrorism. They are just going to find a like-minded terrorist cleric who will give them the go-ahead.

If what you say is true, then the 9/11 hijackers must have got permission from some cleric somewhere. I doubt that the cleric asked them questions like "How many do you plan to kill?" What if the guy replied "As many as possible."

Do you think the cleric will mull that over and say "Well, we can't have that. Can't you limit it to a smaller number of Infidel deaths? If we kill 50,000, that is going to look bad. Can you find a smaller building to crash into? Better yet, why don't you just take a plane and blow it up? And not a 747 please...try to go for one of those smaller commuter jets...perhaps just like one of those ones that we took to Mecca back in 1989, the ones that had the nice beverage holders on the seats. Remember that tahini they passed out to all of us just after we took off? By Allah, I was famished since we just came out of those caves up on the Afghan Pakistani border..."

Okay, I was starting to get a bit silly there, but you see my point.


412 posted on 04/28/2006 1:34:03 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: chris1

Over 1.2 million Illegals are arrested and deported every YEAR. Over 100,000 per MONTH. Over 3,000 per DAY. Over 130 per HOUR.

Now let's hear some more about how nothing is being done or whatever whining LIE the Hysterics are pushing.


414 posted on 04/28/2006 1:36:18 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Star Traveler
"The point is "boom" will happen -- regardless of the details, because the *details* always follow the *decision*."

Nonsense. The Soviets decided to put men onto the Moon.

They failed. Details matter.

415 posted on 04/28/2006 1:37:22 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
Get the math wrong, get the materials wrong, get the clean lab wrong, get the assembly process wrong, or get the maintenance wrong and you won't get the desired result.

Three words...Abdul Qadeer Khan.

417 posted on 04/28/2006 1:37:58 PM PDT by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: sadmodsjoy
"Bet they couldn't get a 1950's computer working either."

The Nazis used extremely slow mechanical relays for their computational machines in the 1940's. The U.S. used high speed electronic vacuume tubes.

418 posted on 04/28/2006 1:40:21 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack

You said -- "Nonsense. The entire might of Nazi Germany couldn't get a nuclear bomb to work."

In time they would have. I understand that there was some misinformation fed to them. It was simply a "matter of time" -- that's all. Details *always* work themselves out sooner or later.

If it's "later" -- you're just as dead in an explosion. It's the same difference. The details *will come* -- sooner or later.

AND -- according to some recent information -- Japan even had a nuclear bomb program. I understand that they were quite far along. This was some history or military channel show. It was quite interesting.

All I can say about the U.S. is simply that *God's providence* was on their side to develop it first and end the war. You can thank God for that -- and not the details.

In this case, God may not be on our side to prevent some kind of WMD attack -- here on U.S. soil. It may be a nuclear bomb, it may be some biological weapon, it may be several other things. And it may happen.

So, I don't worry about details -- because as I said to someone else --

First you *make the decision* -- then you *buy the details*. That's all...

I would say they are well on their way to buying their details.

Regards,
Star Traveler


419 posted on 04/28/2006 1:40:50 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Carry_Okie

That's what really scares me. I don't put ANYthing past the leftist DemRats in their desperation to regain power. Get my drift?



"If a nuke makes it into the US via loose border control, the GOP is done politically."


420 posted on 04/28/2006 1:41:57 PM PDT by XenaLee
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