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U.S. ALERTING MEXICO TO MINUTEMAN PATROLS
WorldNetDaily ^ | 09 May A.D.2006 | Editors

Posted on 05/09/2006 5:18:15 PM PDT by Robert Drobot

INVASION USA
U.S. alerting Mexico to Minuteman patrols
'Unbelievable that our own government....
is sending intelligence to another country'

Posted: May 9, 2006
11:37 a.m. Eastern
© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

The U.S. Border Patrol is tipping off Mexican authorities on the positions of members of the Minuteman civilian patrols.

U.S. officials have agreed to the notification process to reassure the Mexican government that the illegal immigrants' rights are being observed, the Inland Valley Daily Bulletin of Ontario, Calif., reports.

When the Minuteman and other civilian border patrol groups help apprehend illegal immigrants, the Mexican government must be notified, according to three documents on the Mexican Secretary of Foreign Relations website.

A U.S. Customs and Border Protection spokesman confirmed to the Daily Bulletin the notification process, describing it as a standard procedure.

"It's not a secret where the Minuteman volunteers are going to be," Mario Martinez said.

"This ... simply makes two basic statements – that we will not allow any lawlessness of any type, and that if an alien is encountered by a Minuteman or arrested by the Minuteman, then we will allow that government to interview the person."

But angered Minuteman members say the reporting virtually nullifies their effectiveness and could endanger lives.

"Now we know why it seemed like Mexican officials knew where we were all the time," Chris Simcox, founder of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, told the Ontario paper.

"It's unbelievable that our own government agency is sending intelligence to another country," he said. "They are sending intelligence to a nation where corruption runs rampant, and that could be getting into the hands of criminal cartels.

"They just basically endangered the lives of American people."

Martinez said any illegal alien apprehended has the right to request counsel.

"We have to give their counsel the information about their apprehension, and that includes where they are apprehended, whether a Minuteman volunteer spotted them or a citizen," he said.

The spokesman said by entering into the cooperative agreement, the Border Patrol hoped to change Mexico's perception of the group as vigilantes.

One of the documents on the website, "Actions of the Mexican Government in Relation to the Activities of Vigilante Groups," describes a meeting with San Diego Border Patrol sector chief Darryl Griffen.

According to the document, Griffen "said that the Border Patrol will not permit any violence or any actions contrary to the law by the groups, and he is continuously aware of (the volunteer organizations') operations."

The document continues: "Mr. Griffen reiterated to the undersecretary his promise to notify the General Consul right away when the vigilantes detain or participate in the detention of any undocumented Mexicans."

The documents name the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps and the Chino, Calif.-based Friends of the Border Patrol.

TJ Bonner, president of the 10,000-member union National Border Patrol Council, told the Daily Bulletin his member agents have complained for years about the Mexican government "unduly influencing our enforcement policies."

"That's not a legitimate role for any foreign nation," he said.

The Minuteman weblog said the Daily Bulletin's story "does not report information told to the [Minuteman] media offices that the Border Patrol chiefs have also been passing along intelligence reports to the government of Mexico on the activities of Minutemen not only at the borders, but in locations such as Utah, Nevada, Illinois, Massachusetts and Tennessee."

The weblog said one report contained estimated chapter membership numbers of Minutemen in Illinois and a statement on activities. The report noted the group didn't seem to know any politicians there, indicating the Illinois Minutemen had not acquired political clout.

The Minuteman blog commented: "That is not a report on the location of Minutemen at the border, but political intelligence from our government to a foreign nation about the activities of American citizens petitioning our own government for redress of grievances."

Border agents interviewed by the paper said they have been asked to report the location of all civilian patrols to sector headquarters. But they are not to file the groups' names in reports if they spot illegal immigrants.


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To: Mr. Mojo

Law enforcement does not like to be shown that private citizens can do a more effective job with little cost to taxpayers. It belittles their authority position.

Keep hammering away people. And head straight to the top. Make those unelected officials accountable with their JOBS!


41 posted on 05/09/2006 5:53:15 PM PDT by o_zarkman44 (ELECT SOME WORKERS AND REMOVE THE JERKERS!!)
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To: Indy Pendance

Heads back in the sand brothers. Get back to bitching about democrats.


42 posted on 05/09/2006 5:56:04 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Robert Drobot

Shouldn't the U.S. be alerting the Minutement as where the Mexicans are?


43 posted on 05/09/2006 5:56:19 PM PDT by sailor4321
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To: elkfersupper

Bingo, just like cops
Support them, help them.
Crime would be cut in half if we rid ourselfs of all illegals, then we can bring in legal immigrants


44 posted on 05/09/2006 5:56:46 PM PDT by roverman2K6
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To: Robert Drobot

Call, write or email your senators and congressman on a daily basis to express your outrage with regard to these activities!!!!!!


45 posted on 05/09/2006 6:00:11 PM PDT by ethics
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To: NormsRevenge
 
                                                       The Mexican constitution does not allow foreigners to participate in the political affairs of the country. 

                                                                                              That ban applies to participation in demonstrations.
 
                                                                                           
 
 
Should we start calling burglars “undocumented guests?”

If these illegals rally for amnesty by missing work, then the employer has every right to assume that they quit.
 
 

46 posted on 05/09/2006 6:00:44 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: sailor4321

Heavens no...that would be profiling....and that would be wrong...where is your compassion man? :-) he he he

JEDI.


47 posted on 05/09/2006 6:01:37 PM PDT by JediForce (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: Indy Pendance
Oh goody! Another Bush bashing thread!

I think if there was a video showing Bush driving a van of illegals across the border some on this site would call the negative reaction, another Bush bash.

So under what conditions does Bush get held accountable for anything?

To work with a foreign government notifying the location of protesters, that are trying to stop an illegal act is just disgusting. If this does not stop and heads do not roll over this, then the Republican party is truley lost.

Long live the Democrats!
48 posted on 05/09/2006 6:06:42 PM PDT by Garry Boldwater
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To: Indy Pendance; George from New England
But, like lemmings, you choose to follow the one issue wonders off a cliff, and not change from within.

Just a few simple questions for you: How do you propose 'changing from within'? Why is this 'changing' even necessary? How did it get to this level of discomfort (Lemmings Level IV) if we've all been voting like good little Republicans over the years?

49 posted on 05/09/2006 6:07:21 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Mexican Government's Secretary of Foreign Relations Web Site. Third Report on the Activities of Vigilantes.

http://www.sre.gob.mx/eventos/minuteman/reporte3.htm

Rough Babel translation of that Mexican web page:


50 posted on 05/09/2006 6:11:15 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Robert Drobot

I feel a lot aboput the minutemen like I do about the Swift Boat Vets. brave men trying to help America and getting Shat upon.


51 posted on 05/09/2006 6:21:01 PM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: arasina

For starters, we need to elect conservatives to our own states. They might run under the republican ticket or otherwise. We got the government we elected and deserve. Blaming Bush is a symptom of the problem. Bush is 1/3 of the branches. (he his fixing the judicial branch) Just look at the senate. That's supposed to be 'conservative'? If we worked hard at the state level, things might be much different. Everyone can blame bush, everyone votes in the presidential election. How many actually follow the senate candidates? How many actually work the senate elections? How many actually vote in the obscure off year elections? Same can be said for the house. If we really had a strong conservative base, the president wouldn't be the 'be all to end all position', and it shouldn't. But some here think Bush can wave his magic wand and all our problems will be solved. Bush is the president for this time. Until we have a stronger conservative house and senate, all this bush bashing is for naught. If you were to look at the overall picture, the finger pointing and blame lies solely with the states.


52 posted on 05/09/2006 6:25:58 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: Robert Drobot

Uncle Sam wants to make sure the wetbacks know when it is a good time to cross.


53 posted on 05/09/2006 6:30:51 PM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them OVER THERE than here.)
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To: TomGuy
Some of that is hard to discern, but I don't see anything remotely suggesting that the US government was going to disclose where the Minutemen are. I see a reference to where they'll inform Mexico if the Minutemen detain an illegal.

Is that what this story is all about?

54 posted on 05/09/2006 6:33:32 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone

This is the Index page to the Mexican Foreign Relations website:
http://www.sre.gob.mx/eventos/minuteman/



My graphic was a screen cap of the 3rd report.


55 posted on 05/09/2006 6:44:09 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Dog Gone

You really need to decide which side you are on. USA or NWO.


56 posted on 05/09/2006 6:51:31 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: Robert Drobot
Perhaps the 'Chertov arm' of the BP who is betraying 'Big Border Patrol's' mission is also tipping the Mexican invader government to Border Patrol operations and timetables as well as minutemen locations..

Some might call this treason...with the exception of traitors of course...

imo
57 posted on 05/09/2006 6:53:49 PM PDT by joesnuffy
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To: putupjob
"This is either false or insane. If true, it is time to broom the government off the stage. Unelect all who support this insanity."

Sorry to tell you but it appears to be true. Just heard Simcox say so on the Savage program. I want the names of these traitors!

58 posted on 05/09/2006 6:57:29 PM PDT by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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To: Dog Gone
"Some of that is hard to discern, but I don't see anything remotely suggesting that the US government was going to disclose where the Minutemen are."

They've already admitted it.

59 posted on 05/09/2006 6:59:08 PM PDT by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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To: Desron13
Sorry to tell you but it appears to be true. Just heard Simcox say so on the Savage program.

I'd actually take Ms. Cleo's word before savage and simcox.

60 posted on 05/09/2006 6:59:42 PM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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