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The Tempest: A handful of skeptics maintain that Global Warming is a hoax
Washington Post ^ | May 28, 2006 | Joel Aschenbach

Posted on 05/28/2006 5:32:49 AM PDT by billorites

IT SHOULD BE GLORIOUS TO BE BILL GRAY, professor emeritus. He is often called the World's Most Famous Hurricane Expert. He's the guy who, every year, predicts the number of hurricanes that will form during the coming tropical storm season. He works on a country road leading into the Front Range of the Rocky Mountains, in the atmospheric science department of Colorado State University. He's mentored dozens of scientists. By rights, Bill Gray should be in deep clover pausing only to collect the occasional lifetime achievement award.

He's a towering figure in his profession and in person. He's 6 feet 5 inches tall, handsome, with blue eyes and white hair combed straight back. He's still lanky, like the baseball player he used to be back at Woodrow Wilson High School in Washington in the 1940s. When he wears a suit, a dark shirt and tinted sunglasses, you can imagine him as a casino owner or a Hollywood mogul. In a room jammed with scientists, you'd probably notice him first.

He's loud. His personality threatens to spill into the hallway and onto the chaparral. He can be very charming.

But he's also angry. He's outraged.

He recently had a public shouting match with one of his former students. It went on for 45 minutes.

He was supposed to debate another scientist at a weather conference, but the organizer found him to be too obstreperous, and disinvited him.

Much of his government funding has dried up. He has had to put his own money, more than $100,000, into keeping his research going. He feels intellectually abandoned. If none of his colleagues comes to his funeral, he says, that'll be evidence that he had the courage to say what they were afraid to admit.

Which is this: Global warming is a hoax.

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To: Glenn
Down with DIET COKE! Down with Mt. Dew! Away, Pepsi Killers!
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Every breath we exhale contains "lethal" amounts of CO2. Which is undoubtedly why the perceptive environmentalists advocate the elimination of the human population through abortion and homosexuality, thereby insuring the survival of pristine nature and its millions of species of insects and vermin for perpetuity. All hail planned parenthood, womens liberation, gay rights, and their "high" priests in the democrat party!
61 posted on 05/28/2006 7:10:35 AM PDT by photodawg
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To: billorites

Count me and several million Americans among the "handful of skeptics."


62 posted on 05/28/2006 7:17:49 AM PDT by RicocheT
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To: billorites
This is the most important point in the piece

LET US BE HONEST about the intellectual culture of America in general: It has become almost impossible to have an intelligent discussion about anything.

Everything is a war now. This is the age of lethal verbal combat, where even scientific issues involving measurements and molecules are somehow supernaturally polarizing. The controversy about global warming resides all too perfectly at the collision point of environmentalism and free market capitalism. It's bound to be not only politicized but twisted, mangled and beaten senseless in the process. The divisive nature of global warming isn't helped by the fact that the most powerful global-warming skeptic (at least by reputation) is President Bush, and the loudest warnings come from Al Gore.

Human beings may be large of brain, but they are social animals, too, like wolves, and are prone to behave in packs. So when something like climate change comes up, the first thing people want to know is, whose side are you on? All those climatic variables and uncertainties and probabilities and "forcings" and "feedback loops," those cans of worms that Bill Gray talks about, get boiled down to their essence. Are you with us or against us?

Somehow Hitler keeps popping into the discussion. Gore draws a parallel between fighting global warming and fighting the Nazis. Novelist Michael Crichton, in State of Fear , ends with an appendix comparing the theory of global warming to the theory of eugenics -- the belief, prominently promoted by Nazis, that the gene pool of the human species was degenerating due to higher reproductive rates of "inferior" people. Both, he contends, are examples of junk science, supported by intellectual elites who will later conveniently forget they signed on to such craziness.

And Gray has no governor on his rhetoric. At one point during our meeting in Colorado he blurts out, "Gore believed in global warming almost as much as Hitler believed there was something wrong with the Jews."

When I opine that he is incendiary, he answers: "Yes, I am incendiary. But the other side is just as incendiary. The etiquette of science has long ago been thrown out the window."


63 posted on 05/28/2006 7:19:16 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor (...and I'll have the roast duck with mango salsa.)
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To: Baynative
BUT, post just one misspelled headline...
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I second your accolades re: billorites, but really there is absolutely no excuse for blowing a headline that will reach thousands of readers. We expect great posts, and we expect unerring accuracy. Know miztakes allowd (smile)
64 posted on 05/28/2006 7:23:12 AM PDT by photodawg
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To: bobdsmith
Emit less than 1% of co2 than antropogenic sources do

And Mount Pinatubo spilled out how many times more greenhouse gases than man does in a year?

65 posted on 05/28/2006 7:27:25 AM PDT by celmak
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To: bobdsmith
the warming stopped in 1998 Nope

Sorry, but you are wrong. There are several studies that prove temperature rise stopped in 1998. They were posted here on FR about a month ago. If I can find them I will email you a link. The fact that the global warming crowd drowns out studies done by reputable scientist and indoctinates even those who know better is no more evident than with this one fact. Believe what you want. At any rate, the global warming we had was not man made but brought on by natural causes.

66 posted on 05/28/2006 7:34:25 AM PDT by calex59 (No country can survive multiculturalism. Dual cultures don't mix, history has taught us that!)
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To: edpc

i think it is the plural of "ho". pronounced "Ho-ez".
they'll dupe you every time.


67 posted on 05/28/2006 8:02:39 AM PDT by drhogan (!)
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To: billorites

Well, you kind of need to figure it's a bunch of baloney, if Al Gore has made a movie about it. I mean, come on, the sidewinder is not known for his honesty and true American spirit...


68 posted on 05/28/2006 8:10:47 AM PDT by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: billorites

I'm under the impression that there is more than a handful of skeptics, though none of them are in the media or the Left. OTOH, there are fair numbers of conservatives who are believers.


69 posted on 05/28/2006 8:14:12 AM PDT by Sam Cree (Delicacy, precision, force)
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To: billorites

Of course Global Warming is real, why it's already 10 degrees warmer here than it was just early this morning.


70 posted on 05/28/2006 8:15:25 AM PDT by dfwgator (Florida Gators - 2006 NCAA Men's Basketball Champions)
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To: sgtbono2002
Al Gore believes frvently in Global Warming. Has Al Gore ever been right?/About Anything?

Now taking into account that even a broken clock is right twice a day, Do we really want to rely on people like Al Gore to determine the way we live?

Hmm, when you put it that way, who gives a crap about science? AlGore is all I need to know (and I'm not being sarcastic).

/snigger..snort..barf

Sorry, it's a conditioned reflex to his name

71 posted on 05/28/2006 8:18:43 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s...you weren't really there.)
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To: woodb01

Bump


72 posted on 05/28/2006 8:20:32 AM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Al oGre is a hoaz!


73 posted on 05/28/2006 8:54:58 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: billorites
CLEON Master, I adjure you, decide nothing till you have heard my oracles.
SAUSAGE-SELLER And mine.
CLEON If you believe him, you will have to prostitute yourself for him.
SAUSAGE-SELLER If you listen to him, you'll have to let him peel you to the very stump.
CLEON My oracles say that you are to reign over the whole earth, crowned with chaplets.
SAUSAGE-SELLER And mine say that, clothed in an embroidered purple robe, you shall pursue Smicythe and her spouse, standing in a chariot of gold and with a crown on your head.
DEMOS Go, fetch me your oracles, that the Paphlagonian may hear them.
SAUSAGE-SELLER Willingly.
DEMOS And you yours.
CLEON I'll run. (He rushes into the house of DEMOS.)
SAUSAGE-SELLER And I'll run too; nothing could suit me better! (He departs in haste.)
CLEON (coming out of the house with a large package) There, look at this heap; and yet I'm not bringing them all.
SAUSAGE-SELLER (entering witk an even larger package) Ugh! The weight of them is squeezing the crap right out of me, and still I'm not bringing them all!
DEMOS What are these?
CLEON Oracles.
DEMOS All these?
CLEON Does that astonish you? Why, I have another whole boxful of them.
SAUSAGE-SELLER And I the whole of my attic and two rooms besides.
DEMOS Come, let us see, whose are these oracles?
CLEON Mine are those of Bacis.
DEMOS (to the SAUSAGE-SELLER) And whose are yours?
SAUSAGE-SELLER (without hesitating) Glanis's, the elder brother of Bacis.
DEMOS And of what do they speak?
CLEON Of Athens and Pylos and you and me and everything.
DEMOS And yours?
SAUSAGE-SELLER Of Athens and lentils and Lacedaemonians and fresh mackerel and scoundrelly flour-sellers and you and me. Ah ha! now watch him gnaw his own tool with chagrin!
DEMOS Come, read them out to me and especially that one I like so much, which says that I shall become an eagle and soar among the clouds.
CLEON Then listen and be attentive! "Son of Erechtheus, understand the meaning of the words, which the sacred tripods set resounding in the sanctuary of Apollo. Preserve the sacred dog with the jagged teeth, that barks and howls in your defence; he will ensure you a salary and, if he fails, will perish as the victim of the swarms of jays that hunt him down with their screams."
DEMOS By Demeter! I do not understand a word of it. What connection is there between Erechtheus, the jays and the dog?
CLEON I am the dog, since I bark in your defence. Well! Phoebus commands you to keep and cherish your dog.
SAUSAGE-SELLER That is not what the god says; this dog seems to me to gnaw at the oracles as others gnaw at doorposts. Here is exactly what Apollo says of the dog.
DEMOS Let us hear, but I must first pick up a stone; an oracle which speaks of a dog might bite my tool.
SAUSAGE-SELLER "Son of Erechtheus, beware of this Cerberus that enslaves free men; he fawns upon you with his tail when you are dining, but he is lying in wait to devour your dishes should you turn your head an instant; at night he sneaks into the kitchen and, true dog that he is, licks up with one lap of his tongue both your dishes and.... the islands."
DEMOS By god, Glanis, you speak better than your brother.
CLEON Condescend again to hear me and then judge: "A woman in sacred Athens will be delivered of a lion, who shall fight for the people against clouds of gnats with the same ferocity as if he were defending his whelps; care ye for him, erect wooden walls around him and towers of brass." Do you understand that?
DEMOS Not the least bit in the world.
CLEON The god tells you here to look after me, for I am your lion.
DEMOS How! You have become a lion and I never knew a thing about it?
SAUSAGE-SELLER There is only one thing which he purposely keeps from you; he does not say what this wall of wood and brass is in which Apollo warns you to keep and guard him.
DEMOS What does the god mean, then?
SAUSAGE-SELLER He advises you to fit him into a five-holed wooden collar.
DEMOS Hah! I think that oracle is about to be fulfilled.
CLEON Do not believe it; these are but jealous crows, that caw against me; but never cease to cherish your good hawk; never forget that he brought you those Lacedaemonian fish, loaded with chains.
SAUSAGE-SELLER Ah! if the Paphlagonian ran any risk that day, it was because he was drunk. Oh, too credulous son of Cecrops, do you accept that as a glorious exploit? A woman would carry a heavy burden if only a man had put it on her shoulders. But to fight! Go to! he would empty his bowels before he would ever fight.
CLEON Note this Pylos in front of Pylos, of which the oracle speaks, "Pylos is before Pylos."
DEMOS How "in front of Pylos"? What does he mean by that?
SAUSAGE-SELLER He says he will seize upon your bath-tubs.
DEMOS Then I shall not bathe to-day.
SAUSAGE-SELLER No, as he has stolen our baths. But here is an oracle about the fleet, to which I beg your best attention.
DEMOS Read on! I am listening; let us first see how we are to pay our sailors.
SAUSAGE-SELLER "Son of Aegeus, beware of the tricks of the dog-fox, he bites from the rear and rushes off at full speed; he is nothing but cunning and perfidy." Do you know what the oracle intends to say?
DEMOS The dog-fox is Philostratus.
SAUSAGE-SELLER No, no, it's Cleon; he is incessantly asking you for light vessels to go and collect the tributes, and Apollo advises you not to grant them.
DEMOS What connection is there between a galley and dog-fox?
SAUSAGE-SELLER What connection? Why, it's quite plain-a galley travels as fast as a dog.
DEMOS Why, then, does the oracle not say dog instead of dog-fox?
SAUSAGE-SELLER Because he compares the soldiers to young foxes, who, like them, eat the grapes in the fields.
DEMOS Good! Well then! how am I to pay the wages of my young foxes?
SAUSAGE-SELLER I will undertake that, and in three days too! But listen to this further oracle, by which Apollo puts you on your guard against the snares of the greedy fist.
DEMOS Of what greedy fist?
SAUSAGE-SELLER The god in this oracle very clearly points to the hand of Cleon, who incessantly holds his out, saying, "Fill it."
CLEON That's a lie! Phoebus means the hand of Diopithes. But here I have a winged oracle, which promises you shall become an eagle and rule over all the earth.
SAUSAGE-SELLER I have one, which says that you shall be King of the Earth and of the Red Sea too, and that you shall administer justice in Ecbatana, eating fine rich stews the while.
CLEON I have seen Athena in a dream, pouring out full vials of riches and health over the people.
SAUSAGE-SELLER I too have seen the goddess, descending from the Acropolis with an owl perched upon her helmet; on your head she was pouring out ambrosia, on that of Cleon garlic pickle.
DEMOS Truly Glanis is the wisest of men. I shall yield myself to you; guide me in my old age and educate me anew.

Aristophanes, "the Knights"

Subjects change, the principle does not.

74 posted on 05/28/2006 8:56:16 AM PDT by JasonC
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To: billorites

Thankfully no one believes that the sun has anything to do with "global warming".


75 posted on 05/28/2006 9:12:37 AM PDT by GBA
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To: billorites; GreenFreeper

long, but interesting.


76 posted on 05/28/2006 9:22:09 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/gasoline_and_government.htm)
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To: KosmicKitty
>>>And I say, why is Greenland called Greenland - maybe it used to be green!!! (And farmable)<<<

According to some very authoritative sources, Greenland was just that about 6500 years ago.

77 posted on 05/28/2006 9:22:32 AM PDT by HardStarboard (Hey, march some more - its helping get the wall built!)
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To: celmak
And Mount Pinatubo spilled out how many times more greenhouse gases than man does in a year?

not co2 though, which was what i was responding to

78 posted on 05/28/2006 9:48:19 AM PDT by bobdsmith
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To: calex59
Sorry, but you are wrong. There are several studies that prove temperature rise stopped in 1998.

Im staring right at the NCDC data as we speak. 1998 was a strong el-nino year so it was warmer than normal, but it doesn't buck a trend. Even in the CRU dataset, while 1998 is the highest temp, it still does not buck the trend.

They were posted here on FR about a month ago. If I can find them I will email you a link. The fact that the global warming crowd drowns out studies done by reputable scientist and indoctinates even those who know better is no more evident than with this one fact.

Sure, im interested to know what studies these are that contradict the bare data.

79 posted on 05/28/2006 9:56:21 AM PDT by bobdsmith
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To: bobdsmith

Well if you want to do a search you can find the articles. You are wrong and the "bare data" is wrong. there has been no temperature rise(on the average) in the US since 1998. Have a nice day.


80 posted on 05/28/2006 10:43:30 AM PDT by calex59 (No country can survive multiculturalism. Dual cultures don't mix, history has taught us that!)
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