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America angry over "hypocrites" remark [Bolton got into it with British UN official.]
Guardian Newspapers Limited by way of The Hindu ^ | 09JUN06 | Oliver Burkeman

Posted on 06/09/2006 12:04:26 AM PDT by familyop

Edited on 06/09/2006 10:00:31 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

New York: Deputy Secretary-General of the U.N. was on Wednesday night accused of making ``a very, very grave mistake'' after calling the Bush administration hypocrites who were feeding a right-wing anti-U.N. frenzy in middle America.

Washington's Ambassador to the U.N. responded with undisguised fury to a speech by Mark Malloch Brown, the Deputy Secretary-General, in which he accused Washington of using the international body ``almost by stealth as a diplomatic tool'' while failing to defend it at home.


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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ambassador; antiamerican; bluehelmetpos; bolton; briton; brown; deputy; fox; foxnews; general; hrc; humanrightscouncil; icc; johnbolton; limbaugh; malloch; mark; markbrown; markmallochbrown; markmbrown; nations; rushlimbaugh; secretary; un; unhrc; united
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Comment #41 Removed by Moderator

To: Necronomicon

The UN is a forum for the representatives of tin-pot dictators to strut around and feel important while bashing the US, which funds their paychecks. As far as foreign policy goes, the UN is useless at best, dangerous and counterproductive at worst.


42 posted on 06/09/2006 4:32:21 AM PDT by LadyNavyVet
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To: familyop
What's with this "middle america" reference?

Is he saying, "those rubes who change their own oil, watch Gilligan's Island and don't read the NY Times"?

43 posted on 06/09/2006 4:35:50 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: hsalaw
Off to Africa with you! Or France. Or Algiers. Anywhere else. Don't hesitate; don't delay; and don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Haiti. That's a shining symbol of their policies...

44 posted on 06/09/2006 4:36:05 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie!'... till you can find a rock.)
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To: Necronomicon
If you bash UN's stances, you are simply bashing the lowest common consensus attainable among all nations togheter. And if you guys believe that you may ride alone despite the level of Globalization we are experiencing nowadays, be my guest...Do you think you would get any better treatment by sitting separately with today's big players like China, Russia, the or the EU just to name a few ?... This thread smells of geopolitic dilettantism to say the least... Today, you work togheter where agreements may be reached, and you forget about the rest, since nobody is 100% autonomous anymore.

I would admit that the short sentiments on this thread would prompt a response like yours. However, in their defense, if you understood the root of these sentiments, you might give them some more credo.

The one thing the heart of Americans will never compromise, despite what the world at large thinks is better, are the principles that constitute and foster "Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness." Those principles are eternal in nature; and their Author (not being associated with any one particular government, including our own, heck, maybe especially our own), has conveyed that they have a universal application to ALL people. In other words, if those principles are applied, people will live, live free, and, for the most part, be happy.

However, if those principles are violated, there is no promise.

What you are witnessing here are sentiments who have observed a "long train of abuses" from a body who tries to force peace upon nations by instigating wars. Nevermind the misuse of "oil for food" program and others like it. This kind of abuse can be expected at any level of governing power, no matter who or what it represents.

The real complaint here is the effectiveness of a world governing body that kills hundreds of thousands of peoples needlessly in the name of peace as if they should be the angst arbitor that they are of national affairs. Nations should do as they have always done throughout history: Work out their problems with whomever they have a problem with.

This would keep the greedy grubbing money hoarders and the financial/industrial cartels in check and separate governments who do espouse the principles of Life, Liberty, and Happiness from those who do not.

One of those principles is the principle that ultimately, people, individuals, are to be self-governing and independent of social structures for their sustenance. The more governing, as they suppose, they might need is a proportional admission of their lack in abiding those principles. The chief mission for any government should be to protect and defend those principles and their exercise from the evil of greed and murderous theft.

Greedy men for want of power and wealth are those who orchestrate a constant reminder that we, as a human race, are incapable of exercising those principles; of actually becoming what our divine heritage would have us become; which is why they must continue feeding the propaganda machine that we can never agree upon those universal principles if they want to keep their power.

You see Sir, whether our government is a righteous government or not is not the issue. It is what is burned within the hearts of Americans as their faith in the Almighty would have them be free. Anything less than this would be a waste of time and money. Therefore, as inept as the UN has shown the world to be-and indeed, the very instigator of that which they hypocritically oppose, can you actually blame those in this thread for their stand? Especially for a body who has exercises the very evil which seeks out and destroys those aforementioned principles of Life, Liberty, and Happiness?

No Sir, what really smells is your lack to see things as they should be, and not what they must be because that is the way they are. The UN sucks! That is a economic as well as a metaphoric fact. So, why should we keep them around?

Arrowhead>>>---United Nutcases-->

46 posted on 06/09/2006 4:52:18 AM PDT by Arrowhead
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To: Necronomicon

You're complaining now that the US uses its veto? I should hope so! We should be a lot more obstructionist than we are. Putting a stop to the more egregious UN silliness is our job, as I see it.

As far as the rest of the world subsidizing our debt, that's true. Of course, they do it at market rates and it's historically a very good investment. No foreigner is investing in the US to lose money. To the contrary.


47 posted on 06/09/2006 4:59:17 AM PDT by LadyNavyVet
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To: #1CTYankee

May 30, 2006...Why "Necro's" a newbie! (Smells of ye olde troll).


48 posted on 06/09/2006 5:16:49 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Proof against evolution:"Man is the only creature that blushes, or needs to" M.Twain)
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To: Necronomicon

I see you signed up recently. So what is it, chinese(chicom supporter)/marxist/russian/leftist/whiney euro/or a general anti-US curmudgeon?


51 posted on 06/09/2006 5:33:01 AM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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To: Necronomicon
US conservatives don't have the means to decide which arena 6 billion humans use for their international interactions. As simple as that.

6 billion humans? I didn't know that the UN building had that seating capacity.

You must be asserting that the UN is an arena for representatives of those 6 billion people, representatives of their desires and interests. That assertion is laughable.

52 posted on 06/09/2006 5:38:27 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: Necronomicon
Hmmm, why do they think we the people cannot see for ourselves the failure of the UN. We don't need fox or rush to tell us. Typical of the left..disbelieve what you see and believe only what we tell you
54 posted on 06/09/2006 5:42:45 AM PDT by sachem longrifle (proud member of the fond Du lac band of the Chippewa people)
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To: mdmathis6
"(Smells of ye olde troll)."

In The old days we would have called for an "Ash Alert"

This one reminds me of him.

55 posted on 06/09/2006 5:44:52 AM PDT by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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To: Necronomicon

Mark Malloch Brown is afraid we do.


56 posted on 06/09/2006 5:54:34 AM PDT by LadyNavyVet
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To: Necronomicon
Except US conservatives, there are few people left among the 6 billion inhabitants of our little planet who seek UN's destruction. I wonder why...

Probably because except for US conservatives, there are few people who's tax dollars are supporting the UN and its rogue missions.

58 posted on 06/09/2006 6:08:41 AM PDT by meyer (A vote for amnesty is a vote against America.)
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To: mdmathis6
May 30, 2006...Why "Necro's" a newbie! (Smells of ye olde troll).

A quick glance at the posting history might strengthen the odor.

60 posted on 06/09/2006 6:12:39 AM PDT by meyer (A vote for amnesty is a vote against America.)
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