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I’ve found God, says man who cracked the genome
Times Online ^ | June 11, 2006 | Steven Swinford

Posted on 06/11/2006 9:51:12 PM PDT by Marius3188

THE scientist who led the team that cracked the human genome is to publish a book explaining why he now believes in the existence of God and is convinced that miracles are real.

Francis Collins, the director of the US National Human Genome Research Institute, claims there is a rational basis for a creator and that scientific discoveries bring man “closer to God”.

His book, The Language of God, to be published in September, will reopen the age-old debate about the relationship between science and faith. “One of the great tragedies of our time is this impression that has been created that science and religion have to be at war,” said Collins, 56.

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To: orionblamblam

all knowledge comes from God.. nothing is revealed without him doing so. As to him being the ultimate scientists, no it does not mean he's got questions to unknowns.. that's not the meaning of science. at the end of the journey through our limited view of the world arounds us, one cannot but admit that all of it is not a product of chance, but a masterpiece, and behind the masterpiece there is a painter

he is creating life forms, and sharing this knowledge with his life forms: Us


41 posted on 06/11/2006 10:56:18 PM PDT by Cinnamon
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To: Marius3188

I see some DUmmie trolls are here today.


42 posted on 06/11/2006 10:59:36 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: Paleo Conservative
Does he play dice?

Yes, but His dice are spherical.

43 posted on 06/11/2006 11:01:02 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: DeltaZulu
Your retort does not refute his point.

Uh, yes it does.

Simply because one man speaks out does not mean that all have spoken out.

Plenty of scientists are professing Christians. Nobody really cares.

The tone of your remark is WHY others do not speak out. Your bitterness and contempt is palpable.

I have enormous contempt for those who misrepresent the words of others. Case in point.

44 posted on 06/11/2006 11:01:35 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: JCEccles

> When this brave scientist peered into the incredibly information rich human genome, the foundation of his atheist belief system was shaken and cracked.

REALLY.

Survey says:
http://www.achievement.org/autodoc/page/col1int-6
"Another thing that's very important to me is my faith, and that surprises people. They assume that scientists in general would find it difficult to have coexisting within them a belief in a personal god. And yet to me that is the unifying principle of who I am. And it's not a faith which was sort of acquired as a child and which I've just not been able to grow out of, which is the other thing people tend to assume. I acquired that faith at age 27..."

OK, he was 27 when he "found God." Accordign to here:
http://www.ksg.harvard.edu/leadership/usnews/genome.html

He was born in 1950. That means he found God in 1977 or so.

According to Wikipedia: "Tapped to take on the leadership of the HGP, Collins accepted an invitation in 1993 to succeed James Watson and become director of the National Center for Human Genome Research, which became NHGRI in 1997. As director, he oversees the International Human Genome Sequencing Consortium and many other aspects of what he has called "an adventure that beats going to the moon or splitting the atom."

In 1994, Collins founded NHGRI's Division of Intramural Research (DIR), an intramural program of genome research that has developed into one of the nation's premier research centers in human genetics."


So: which came first... 1977 or 1994?

Was he a stealth Christian in '94, only "coming out" recently?


45 posted on 06/11/2006 11:03:53 PM PDT by orionblamblam (I'm interested in science and preventing its corruption, so here I am.)
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To: JCEccles
Like I said... even if you find all that... 'get' all the answers and explanations and reasons for it all... you are still left with 'why' and 'how' for those 'perfect sequences' and 'natural flow' of everything.

That is the point where most scientists start to find religion.
46 posted on 06/11/2006 11:04:22 PM PDT by FreedomNeocon (Success is not final; Failure is not fatal; it is the courage to continue that counts -- Churchill)
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To: TXnMA
His name is, "Hawking".

That wheelchair guy?

47 posted on 06/11/2006 11:06:00 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Cinnamon

> all knowledge comes from God.

Prove that claim. Show your work. And then stand by to win a Nobel prize.

I'll just wait patiently...

> no it does not mean he's got questions to unknowns.. that's not the meaning of science.

Uh, yeah, it pretty much is.

> one cannot but admit that all of it is not a product of chance

Errr... sure looks like a whole lotta chance going on to me.


48 posted on 06/11/2006 11:06:49 PM PDT by orionblamblam (I'm interested in science and preventing its corruption, so here I am.)
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To: orionblamblam
Was he a stealth Christian in '94, only "coming out" recently?

I posted a link to a 1998 interview, where he talks about his conversion to Christianity. Clearly, our commissars have been sloppy. He should have been terminated immediately.

49 posted on 06/11/2006 11:08:17 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: orionblamblam

I see where you're going with this...

may I recommend a fine book called Godless, by Ann Coulter?


50 posted on 06/11/2006 11:08:22 PM PDT by Cinnamon
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To: orionblamblam
Chance is only the statistical result of a data set.

If that data set (existence) is infinite, then chance is a certainty.

Who is to distinguish between what is 'natural' and what is part of a pre-set plan in that case?
51 posted on 06/11/2006 11:09:05 PM PDT by FreedomNeocon (Success is not final; Failure is not fatal; it is the courage to continue that counts -- Churchill)
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To: balch3
Wouldn't it be something if he announced he believed in Creation Science?

It would indeed:
http://www.beliefnet.com/story/30/story_3048_1.html

Collins first became prominent when he led the team that discovered the gene for cystic fibrosis. As both an active Christian and a prominent biologist, he is perhaps today's leading exponent for the view that there is no conflict between evolutionary biology and the Bible. Collins winces on the word creationism, asserting that "Creationism has done more harm to serious notions of belief than anything in modern history." He maintains that the evidence for natural selection is overwhelming, but that this need not stop anyone from believing that a creator God set the process in motion.

52 posted on 06/11/2006 11:09:24 PM PDT by orionblamblam (I'm interested in science and preventing its corruption, so here I am.)
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To: Dallas59; betty boop; Alamo-Girl
[ But how did God create the human genome? ]

The answer to that is too complex for a primate to understand..

53 posted on 06/11/2006 11:09:44 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: FreedomNeocon
More importantly... is there any difference between the two?
54 posted on 06/11/2006 11:10:08 PM PDT by FreedomNeocon (Success is not final; Failure is not fatal; it is the courage to continue that counts -- Churchill)
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To: Cinnamon

> Godless, by Ann Coulter?

I heard her being interviewed by Hannity over the weekend. While I largely agree with her politically, her science education is... lacking. She came off like a low-grade moron when Darwinism came under discussion. It was embarassing. So... no, prolly won't be buying that one.


55 posted on 06/11/2006 11:11:17 PM PDT by orionblamblam (I'm interested in science and preventing its corruption, so here I am.)
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To: FreedomNeocon

> Who is to distinguish between what is 'natural' and what is part of a pre-set plan in that case?

Dr. Collins, for one.


56 posted on 06/11/2006 11:12:44 PM PDT by orionblamblam (I'm interested in science and preventing its corruption, so here I am.)
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To: orionblamblam
Prove that claim. Show your work. And then stand by to win a Nobel prize.

You can't "prove" that. It's a statement of faith. You don't need proof if you believe it from a theological standpoint.

57 posted on 06/11/2006 11:12:51 PM PDT by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: orionblamblam

bleh.. thats a cop-out if I ever heard one.


58 posted on 06/11/2006 11:13:37 PM PDT by FreedomNeocon (Success is not final; Failure is not fatal; it is the courage to continue that counts -- Churchill)
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To: Ichneumon
[ See post #25 ]

Hmm.. Can physics be a second reality?..
Can evolution be a second reality?..
Can cosmology be a second reality?..

59 posted on 06/11/2006 11:16:09 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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The only people who believe that science & religion are at war tend to be the atheists & secularists - not generally those who subscribe to intelligent design.
60 posted on 06/11/2006 11:16:16 PM PDT by Republic_of_Secession.
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