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HPV Vaccine—Another Deception of the Culture of Death
Human Life International ^ | 6/16/2006 | Fr. Thomas J. Euteneuer

Posted on 06/16/2006 9:13:55 AM PDT by Pyro7480

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To: Alama
Vaccines are the ultimate success against an illness... People today do not remember what was life before vaccines...

Oh yes we do. We all got 21 day measles, mumps, chicken pox, 3 day measles, and some of us got polio. I myself had it at the age of 4.

This is why you have children dying needlessly because their parents got some idiotical information about vaccines and their effects...

Virtually all of us didn't get very sick at all. Just a routine childhood illness that we got over. Name me some children "dying needlessly" today because some schoolmate didn't get vaccinated...please.

41 posted on 06/16/2006 9:46:12 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: Pyro7480

Mixing apples and oranges I see...

And ignoring history!


42 posted on 06/16/2006 9:46:18 AM PDT by Alama
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To: Ben Mugged
Boy the bull ate a lot of alfalfa yesterday.

One sentence nails it. Outstanding.

43 posted on 06/16/2006 9:46:34 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: Alama

I'm not ignoring what you cited. I'm just think your application of the history is faulty.


44 posted on 06/16/2006 9:47:44 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you wish to go to extremes, let it be in... patience, humility, & charity." -St. Philip Neri)
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To: Amelia
Would you have casual intercourse more carelessly?

In my younger, stupider days, I may have.

You know, a woman doesn't need to be promiscuous to get HPV. She only has to have sex with a man who is or used to be (before he was married or forgiven perhaps) and contracted the virus in that way.

You act like I'm making an apology for male promiscuity. I'm not. HPV (and most STDs for that matter) can only be introduced between a monogamous married couple if one of the partners is or was promiscuous. So yes, promiscuity is the issue.

Maybe it won't happen to your wife or daughters, though.

You almost sound like you're hoping it will. Would it serve me right?
45 posted on 06/16/2006 9:48:16 AM PDT by Antoninus (I don't vote for liberals -- regardless of party.)
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To: Alama

"Well some are mandatory for school attendance... Especially vaccines against measles, polio, pertussis and rubelle... "

Interesting-- my daughter is not yet of school age.


46 posted on 06/16/2006 9:48:41 AM PDT by agooga (Less of the stuff that is bad for you / more of the stuff that is good for you.)
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To: Alama
In this thread I see people going back to letting people die because it is God's will!!!!

Well, that clinches it. You're officially a psycho.
47 posted on 06/16/2006 9:49:58 AM PDT by Antoninus (I don't vote for liberals -- regardless of party.)
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To: Pyro7480; All

1. What is Gardasil?

Gardasil is a vaccine that targets four strains of human papillomavirus (HPV). Those strains are called HPV-6, HPV-11, HPV-16, and HPV-18.

HPV-16 and HPV-18 account for about 70% of all cervical cancers. Cervical cancer is cancer of the cervix, which connects the vagina to the uterus.

HPV-6 and HPV-11 account for about 90% of genital warts.

The vaccine is also approved to help prevent vaginal and vulvar cancers, which can also be caused by HPV.

2. How does HPV spread?

HPV is spread through sex. HPV infection is common. About 20 million people in the U.S. are infected with HPV, and by age 50, at least 80% of women will have had an HPV infection, according to the CDC.

Most women with HPV infection don't develop cervical cancer.

3. Does Gardasil protect against all cervical cancers?

No. Though the vaccine protects against leading causes of cervical cancer, it doesn't ward off other causes of cervical cancer.

4. How effective is Gardasil?

Studies have shown 100% effectiveness in protecting against infection with HPV-16 and HPV-18 strains in people who had not been previously exposed to the virus.

5. How long does Gardasil last?

Tests show that the vaccine lasts at least four years. Long-term results aren't known yet.

6. Does the vaccine contain a live virus?

No. Gardasil contains a virus-like particle, but not the virus itself.

7. Who should get the vaccine?

The FDA approved Gardasil for girls and women aged 9-26. The FDA's decision doesn't automatically make the vaccine part of the CDC's recommended vaccine schedule. The company that makes Gardasil is continuing to research use of the vaccine in boys and men, as they can also become infected with HPV, which could lead to genital warts.

8. Is Gardasil safe?

Reports from clinical trials, to date, show Gardasil to be safe.

9. Will Gardasil protect women from cervical cancer who've already been exposed to HPV?

Gardasil is not designed to protect people who've already been exposed to HPV.

10. Will the new vaccine eliminate the need for cervical cancer screening?

No. Gardasil doesn't protect against all causes of cervical cancer, so screening (such as the Pap test) will still be needed. Screening is essential to detect cancer and precancerous lesions caused by other HPV types. Screening will also continue to be necessary for women who have not been vaccinated or are already infected with HPV.

11. Are there other cervical cancer vaccines?

Gardasil is the first cervical cancer vaccine to be approved. In fact, it's the first vaccine to protect against a risk factor for a cancer. Another cervical cancer vaccine, called Cervarix, is also in the works. It's expected to be submitted for approval by the end of 2006.

12. How many people get cervical cancer and die from the disease?

About 9,710 cases of invasive cervical cancer will be diagnosed in the U.S. in 2006, predicts the American Cancer Society.

About 3,700 U.S. women will die of cervical cancer in 2006, according to the American Cancer Society.

Worldwide, cervical cancer is a leading cause of cancer deaths for women. According to the FDA there are 470,000 new cases and 233,000 deaths each year.


48 posted on 06/16/2006 9:51:12 AM PDT by WilliamWallace1999
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To: Antoninus
In my younger, stupider days, I may have.

There are still a lot of younger, stupider males out there.

You almost sound like you're hoping it will. Would it serve me right?

I wouldn't wish it on your wife or daughters. The point is, why not protect women from something that might happen to them through no fault of their own?

49 posted on 06/16/2006 9:51:24 AM PDT by Amelia (Education exists to overcome ignorance, not validate it.)
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To: Judith Anne

OK: mumps can render men sterile. Rubella can cause defect in the fetus of a pregnant woman... And measles can cause encephalitis and blindness... The incidence of this is much higher than any risk incurred by the vaccine...


50 posted on 06/16/2006 9:51:30 AM PDT by Alama
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To: Alama
pertussis and measles which caused children to die.

There is risk in vaccines, vaccines are not always effective, and viruses like measles are never fatal unless secondary infections result. A healthy immune system is most important, vaccines are valuable in a few specific cases (e.g. smallpox, polio).

51 posted on 06/16/2006 9:51:45 AM PDT by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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To: Pyro7480

If HPV gave men testicular cancer, the vaccine would have been mandatory yesterday.


52 posted on 06/16/2006 9:53:07 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: palmer

There are risks, but they are smaller than the ones of the complications...

One of the real problems is that people nowaday don't remember what it was before the vaccine... ecause of it children are needlessly dying because of junk science on one hand, and from this thread religious nonsense from others...


53 posted on 06/16/2006 9:53:52 AM PDT by Alama
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To: Alama

Because they're treatable, we don't need a vaccine? What about the resistant strains?

I don't have a problem with the vaccine. I'm glad it's available. But people did not routinely die from ordinary childhood illnesses, and most of us over 50 had them.


54 posted on 06/16/2006 9:53:59 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: mysterio

Mumps vaccine caused more kissing.......

/sarcasm

I don't know where some of these folks come from. Certain strains of HPV can cause cancer in some women... why is having a vaccine to ensure this virus can't infect them a bad thing?

Is it the vaccine they are really objecting to? Or is it simply they think anyone who gets something through sexual contact deserves the wrath of god and should not be offered any protection even if its available?

I just don't follow this guys logic at all.


55 posted on 06/16/2006 9:54:03 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: palmer

"vaccines are valuable in a few specific cases (e.g. smallpox, polio)."

Injected polio, not oral.

The oral vaccine caused pretty much all the cases of polio in the US in the 90's.


56 posted on 06/16/2006 9:56:07 AM PDT by webstersII
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To: Judith Anne

I am sure that research is ongoing in vaccines for them...

But vaccines against non-treatable illnesses, like cervical cancer, are more important...


57 posted on 06/16/2006 9:56:16 AM PDT by Alama
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To: Pyro7480

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58 posted on 06/16/2006 9:56:50 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (A wall first. A wall now.)
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To: HamiltonJay

There is NO logics here...


59 posted on 06/16/2006 9:57:19 AM PDT by Alama
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To: Antoninus
HPV (and most STDs for that matter) can only be introduced between a monogamous married couple if one of the partners is or was promiscuous. So yes, promiscuity is the issue.

You sound as though you believe all sexual contact is voluntary.... I bet a lot of folks probably a lot closer to you than you know can inform you otherwise.

60 posted on 06/16/2006 9:57:40 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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