HPV Vaccine—Another Deception of the Culture of Death

Human Life International ^ | 6/16/2006 | Fr. Thomas J. Euteneuer

[Judith Anne]

It just occurred to me to wonder...

Where are the vaccines against syphillis and gonorrhea? Have they gone away? Are they still infecting people?

Hmmmmm......

[Alama]

Vaccines are the ultimate success against an illness... People today do not remember what was life before vaccines...

This is why you have children dying needlessly because their parents got some idiotical information about vaccines and their effects...

[sono]

The two strains of HPV happen to be the two most commonly found to be oncogenic. The vaccine is aimed, not to prevent hpv per se, but to reduce the incidence of cervical cancer.

[doc30]

The problem with this analysis is in the science Rev. Thomas J. Euteneuer is trying to interpret. There are lots of HPV viruses, but the vast majority of cases of cervical cancer are caused by the viruses this immunization will protect against. I also find it strange that Rev. Thomas J. Euteneuer implies that before the advent of birth control, there were only 3 venerial diseases. Other sexually transmitted diseases existed but were not counted as venerial disease at that time. Very misleading on his part.

Secondly, even if a girl is chaste and is a virgin when she get married, there is no such guarantee for her husband. Men can carry HVP and show no symptoms, then pass it to their wives, who also show no symptoms. Then, 15 years later, this woman can get cervical cancer. The problem with this new immunization is that it must be given to girls before they become sexually active. If given to a woman who is infected with HVP, there is a significant risk that it may increase her chances of getting cervical cancer.

Another thing I've heard is that the immunization may eliminate the need for PAP smears for women.

[Antoninus]

I am all for vaccines, and I really couldn't care less what a father says about them... This guy is a real menace!

Good for you. So am I. I am not in favor of accepting "conventional wisdom" that such a vaccine is a "cure" for cervical cancer--that's exactly how it's being promoted in the media.

Such misrepresentation will result in people's deaths. If you're ok with that, then fine. But I would argue that it's you who is the menace to society, not the good Father who is sounding the warning.

[Judith Anne]

Well some are mandatory for school attendance... Especially vaccines against measles, polio, pertussis and rubelle...

Why should you be allowed put other people's children at risk?

If the poster homeschools, why should any vaccine mandatory for school attendance affect him/her?

If other people's children are vaccinated, as you say because it's mandatory, then how are unvaccinated children putting them at risk?

[Alama]

They are both treatable by common drugs...

The discovery of the magic bullet against syphilis by Paul Ehrlich in 1909 was hailed as a major victory...

In this thread I see people going back to letting people die because it is God's will!!!!

[edik]

HPV strains 16 and 18 are the ones that cause the most cases of cervical cancer, thus it makes sense to vaccinate against them. It's just like haemophilus influenza Type B vaccince. Hib used to be #1 cause of neonatal meningitis. Countless babies died from it. Now it's extremely rare. Why? Because all kids are vaccinated against it (since 1992). The vaccince does not protect you from all strains of haemophilus influenza, only type B! But this was good enough since type B was the culprit here.

[doc30]

Perhaps not. But people will have casual intercourse more carelessly, thinking, incorrectly, that they're now protected against a potentially deadly disease that they were very likely to contract. It has been estimated that up to 1/3 of sexually active women have HPV

See my post above. Even a chaste, virgin women is at risk for getting infected with HPV if her husband has it. He may have no symptoms and pass it to his virgin bride who may also have no symptoms. Then, years later, she gets the disease. How many guys are actually honest about their sexual past?

[Antoninus]

Another thing I've heard is that the immunization may eliminate the need for PAP smears for women.

I've heard that too. It's all part of the sales pitch. I predict that the vaccine will become "mandatory" within a short period of time.

[Alama]

Well, if his children are in any contact with other children, then they are a vector of infection... They remain so when in college ...

So he can homeschool and keep them apart from other children!

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Alot of people on FR place their trust in vaccinations and it offends them greatly that you don't vaccinate as "one of the herd".

Yeah, let's just go back to the good-old days of the 1800s when small pox and yellow fever used to kill children at early ages.

[Alama]

Worse: because of people like this one, today we have had needless epidemies of pertussis and measles which caused children to die...

This is beyond ridiculous, it is criminal!

[Pyro7480]

In this thread I see people going back to letting people die because it is God's will!!!!

That sounds like a left-wing argument.

[Amelia]

Perhaps not. But people will have casual intercourse more carelessly, thinking, incorrectly, that they're now protected against a potentially deadly disease that they were very likely to contract. It has been estimated that up to 1/3 of sexually active women have HPV

Would you have casual intercourse more carelessly?

You know, a woman doesn't need to be promiscuous to get HPV. She only has to have sex with a man who is or used to be (before he was married or forgiven perhaps) and contracted the virus in that way.

Maybe it won't happen to your wife or daughters, though.

[Alama]

No, this was the Church and most religious establishment arguments against the introduction of vaccines... In England the Anglican Church was against this... They had to be trold off by Queen Victoria.

I guess for you modern medecine is a leftist argument... I hope you don't go to the doctor but prauy instead when your children are sick. Because if not, you are being a leftist.

[Alama]

Don't bet on it...

[webstersII]

" Yeah, let's just go back to the good-old days of the 1800s when small pox and yellow fever used to kill children at early ages."

You missed my point.

[Antoninus]

Even a chaste, virgin women is at risk for getting infected with HPV if her husband has it. He may have no symptoms and pass it to his virgin bride who may also have no symptoms.

I know about all that. I never claimed that this was a women-only issue. Men need to be as aware and as careful as women when it comes to who they chose to have intercourse with. If you are a man who has a lot of sexual encounters, chances are you already have HPV and you very well could infect your wife 5 years down the road.

When it comes to preventing STDs, no vaccine in the world will ever measure up to a simple formula: one man + one woman for life.

[Pyro7480]

No, I'm saying that is a commonly-heard arugment/slogan whenever someone reasons objections to things like embryonic stem-cell research, human cloning, and now, the HPV vaccine.