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Something's Different in Iraq: Tipping Point Reached?
Global Politician ^ | 6/26/2006 | Nicholas M. Guariglia

Posted on 06/26/2006 9:52:58 AM PDT by Icitinuris

"Every conflict reaches a tipping point. More often than not, historians would vouch, that tipping point need not be anywhere near the end of an ongoing war. It could be said, before Okinawa, prior to the bodies at Iwo Jima, before the firebombing of Tokyo, prior to MacArthur's return to the Philippines, and years before Truman's early August atomic decision, Japanese defeat was sowed at Midway. Ditto that in the European theater in the aftermath of D-Day, some eleven months before the fall of the Third Reich: turning points, they were, leaving only the question of how much time, treasure, an d blood was to from there on be lost.

And now events in the supposed Iraqi quagmire indicate something is changing in that oil-rich cradle of civilization. With the death of the most dangerous man in Iraq - perhaps the world - and the final formation of the permanent Iraqi government, obstructionists here at home have had a hard time glossing over the importance of such successes. This, coupled with a surprise trip from Mr. Bush to Baghdad to meet the Iraqi leader and his newly assembled team, was all good and significant news. There is something inspiring - toppled statues of fascists and purple ink-stained fingers of Muslim women enjoying their suffrage - in seeing the world's most powerful symbol of democratic freedom meeting, face-to-face, with the first genuinely and democratically elected Arab prime minister. The unusualness of such an occurrence, in and of itself, could perhaps constitute its own turning point amidst a great and violent struggle.

But there is something else in the air -

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It is about time that our success in dealing with this situation be told to the American public, not in a bellicose manner as is so often made by the liberal media exercise in neuro linguistic programing, no more, in a clear concise manner the facts need to be laid out. It is sad that we see the "Breaking News" today as the revelation regarding the S.W.I.F.T. system to counter the declassification of the found WMD. This article reveals in an unvarnished manner the facts, That WE ARE WINNING, that our strength, courage and commitment are winning the day. Let us hope that we will show the same Strength when defending our freedoms here at home not letting the media, any religious faction (Muslim or Christan), Government decide in the name of any cause to take away our freedoms our rights.
1 posted on 06/26/2006 9:52:59 AM PDT by Icitinuris
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To: Icitinuris

Talk to boots on the ground and they'll tell you how much has been accomplished in such a short time. They all say it's amazing...and that the people of Iraq are changing in such a positive way. ;o)


2 posted on 06/26/2006 9:55:37 AM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
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To: Icitinuris

I'd say Welcome to FR if my neuro linguistic programming allows it.


3 posted on 06/26/2006 9:56:44 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Icitinuris

bttt


4 posted on 06/26/2006 9:58:45 AM PDT by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: Icitinuris; Allegra
*ping*

What's your take, Allegra?
5 posted on 06/26/2006 10:01:31 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Man was made in the image of God, not pond scum)
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To: Icitinuris

The tipping point as far as I'm concerned occured on day one we went into Iraq. There was no doubt in my mind where it would lead and that we would not fail. All it really took was the will to do what had to be done, THAT was the tipping point in the war on terror, to do what had to be done to win.


6 posted on 06/26/2006 10:02:07 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Icitinuris; oldglory; MinuteGal; mcmuffin

bttt


7 posted on 06/26/2006 10:03:59 AM PDT by Matchett-PI ( "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." -- Dwight Eisenhower)
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To: Icitinuris

"It could be said, before Okinawa, prior to the bodies at Iwo Jima, before the firebombing of Tokyo, prior to MacArthur's return to the Philippines, and years before Truman's early August atomic decision, Japanese defeat was sowed at Midway."

Has been for decades, Mr. Author. Where have you been?


8 posted on 06/26/2006 10:04:03 AM PDT by TexanToTheCore (This space for hire...)
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To: reagan_fanatic

She's probably asleep........


9 posted on 06/26/2006 10:05:11 AM PDT by Red Badger (Follow an IROC long enough and sooner or later you will wind up in a trailer park..........)
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To: Icitinuris
The world will see an expeditionary force of a larger, quarter-million strong Arab army –– the most professional, U.S.-trained, army in the region –– war against the underground IED and suicide vest. This operation will be large, heavy-handed, and righteously devastating.
Here's wishing them good hunting.
10 posted on 06/26/2006 10:05:52 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Icitinuris

"Tipping point". A REAL tipping point would be the realization among the vast majority of Muslims that the "Islamic" jihadists are NOT representatives of divine guidance. Every day, they erode their own base of moral rectitude, as much by the destruction of fellow Muslims as by their unrelenting display of total hostility to any other belief system in the world. It is almost as if any compromise with opponents with whom they are in conflict, will surely result in their personal demise.

The path of the True Believer is a troubled one at times.


11 posted on 06/26/2006 10:06:54 AM PDT by alloysteel
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"We can pack up and leave and look for another land, just like it has happened in so many lands of jihad. Our enemy is growing stronger day after day and its intelligence information increases. By God, this is suffocation!"

Sounds a little like Murtha, doesn't it? But it's actually Zarqari to Osama before Zarqari was eliminated.

12 posted on 06/26/2006 10:09:07 AM PDT by hsalaw
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To: Icitinuris
Ditto that in the European theater in the aftermath of D-Day, some eleven months before the fall of the Third Reich: turning points

Not even close - Stalingrad was the tipping point for the Germans in WWII

13 posted on 06/26/2006 10:13:00 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: reagan_fanatic
But there is something else in the air - not a wave of euphoria, for violence will still surely continue, but a realization that this is no longer just an American war. With the Iraqi cabinet formed –– and the defense, interior, and national security ministries filled - we now have names and faces we can rightly associate with when speaking of joint U.S.-Iraqi counterterrorism efforts.

I so agree and have said similar things on here in recent days.

But I'll go a step further and say that we can see things going in a different direction as well. The terrorist network is staring to come apart. They're on the run more and more lately.

It's been violent in Baghdad over the last couple of weeks because U.S. and Iraqi troops are on the offensive now and are determined to clean it up. And they're having quite a lot of success. But the current violence is nothing like it used to be during ramped-up phases.

It's definitely different around here over the last month or so. The country is really starting to accelerate forward and I have no doubt that this is going to work.

Sooner rather than later.

14 posted on 06/26/2006 10:13:58 AM PDT by Allegra (I'm Shizophrenic. No, I'm Not. Yes, I Am. No, I'm NOT. Are TOO. Am NOT.)
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To: Red Badger
She's probably asleep........

It's only 9:15 p.m. ;-)

15 posted on 06/26/2006 10:15:28 AM PDT by Allegra (I'm Shizophrenic. No, I'm Not. Yes, I Am. No, I'm NOT. Are TOO. Am NOT.)
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To: Allegra

Your post made my day.


16 posted on 06/26/2006 10:18:16 AM PDT by Warren_Piece (Smart is easy. Good is hard.)
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To: Allegra

Early to bed, early to rise............


17 posted on 06/26/2006 10:18:22 AM PDT by Red Badger (Follow an IROC long enough and sooner or later you will wind up in a trailer park..........)
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To: hsalaw

That's the beauty of for us/agin' us. Any nation offering AQ bed and board is next on the invasion list. Excellent deterrent.


18 posted on 06/26/2006 10:19:07 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: Icitinuris
Midways was our "hump" in WW2. It was not a tipping point. The tipping point of WW2, when the Axis began to loose, was December 7, 1941.

The key thing to remember is that we can still lose.
19 posted on 06/26/2006 10:21:38 AM PDT by fireforeffect (A kind word and a 2x4, gets you more than just a kind word.)
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To: Allegra

Good luck over there. It's nice to get some inside info without the damn MSM filter.


20 posted on 06/26/2006 10:21:57 AM PDT by somemoreequalthanothers (All for the betterment of "the state", comrade)
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