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President Finds His Veto Pen (embryo stem cell research)

Posted on 07/19/2006 11:14:14 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe

WASHINGTON (AP) President Bush has issued the first veto of his presidency, rejecting a bill to expand federal research on stem cells obtained from embryos.


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1 posted on 07/19/2006 11:14:15 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Another reason to be happy President Bush is in office!


2 posted on 07/19/2006 11:15:48 AM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Did they say where it had been mislaid during passage of MediPill, Highway bills, and other multi-billion dollar boondoggles too numerous to mention?


3 posted on 07/19/2006 11:16:09 AM PDT by reelfoot
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Way to go. Bush goes against the majority of Congress and 70% of American people to push his personal religious point of view.

Mr President, where was your veto pen when it came to CFR, bloated budgets, and dozens of other bad bills????


4 posted on 07/19/2006 11:16:11 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (Man Law: You Poke It, You Own It)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

The mind boggles. Of all the legislation that he could have vetoed up to now (CFR and bloated budgets come to mind), he chooses this one to finally learn how to spell "veto"!


5 posted on 07/19/2006 11:16:13 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

BUMP


6 posted on 07/19/2006 11:16:30 AM PDT by Constitution Day (Down with Half-Assery!)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

I didn't completely misread his character after all.

I said long ago If he ever exercised a VETO, he'd do so on this.

Seems I was right about it...and him. Actualy restores some of my sentiments about him.

Thank you Mr. President.


7 posted on 07/19/2006 11:18:00 AM PDT by Soul Seeker (Kobach: Amnesty is going from an illegal to a legal position, without imposing the original penalty.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Good for the President! All I can say is, if embryonic stem cell research is the boon to medicine that some say, why is federal funding needed to conduct it? Don't Glaxo Smith-Kline and Pfizer and Bayer have their own R&D funds????


8 posted on 07/19/2006 11:18:27 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Lunatic Fringe
There is NO ban on stem cell research!
9 posted on 07/19/2006 11:18:28 AM PDT by admiralsn ("How do you get a ceasefire with terrorists?" - - UN Ambassador John Bolton)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Well said.

Look out!! Here come the BushBots!

10 posted on 07/19/2006 11:18:39 AM PDT by CrawDaddyCA (Tancredo/Paul 2008)
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To: Soul Seeker

Ditto.


11 posted on 07/19/2006 11:18:40 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: admiralsn

Meant to put that in quotes.


12 posted on 07/19/2006 11:18:54 AM PDT by admiralsn ("How do you get a ceasefire with terrorists?" - - UN Ambassador John Bolton)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Religion over science.


13 posted on 07/19/2006 11:19:03 AM PDT by hodaka
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To: Lunatic Fringe; Salvation; Coleus; NYer; SoothingDave; cyborg; onyx; fortunecookie; ...


14 posted on 07/19/2006 11:19:24 AM PDT by Petronski (Living His life abundantly.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

The President, referring to the children present at the ceremony, all of whom were adopted as embryos and now living in loving families:

"These boys and girls are not spare parts.

"They remind us of what is lost when embryos are destroyed in the name of research."


I LOVE this brave man.


15 posted on 07/19/2006 11:19:30 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Lunatic Fringe

yeah, like the abortion lobbyists that have spun this issue beyond all distortion aren't pushing their own personal religious agendas.

Besides, no CONSEVATIVE supports this type of Government spending..RIGHT? Fiscal conservatives should be galf he found the VETO pen by default.


16 posted on 07/19/2006 11:19:54 AM PDT by Soul Seeker (Kobach: Amnesty is going from an illegal to a legal position, without imposing the original penalty.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Vetoing those bills would have been useless. The veto would have been overridden.

I am happy with this one.
17 posted on 07/19/2006 11:20:04 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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To: Rummyfan
if embryonic stem cell research is the boon to medicine that some say, why is federal funding needed to conduct it? Don't Glaxo Smith-Kline and Pfizer and Bayer have their own R&D funds????

Because no company is going to invest money that won't produce returns for 40 years.

Why didn't we get private companies to take us into space?

18 posted on 07/19/2006 11:20:05 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (Man Law: You Poke It, You Own It)
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To: hodaka

Human life over spare parts.


19 posted on 07/19/2006 11:20:19 AM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: TheDon
Another reason to be happy President Bush is in office!

Yep, it ranks right up there with Nafta, illegal aliens, and the biggest budget in history!

20 posted on 07/19/2006 11:20:53 AM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

While I wish he had used his veto many times over before on a LOT of things, I have no problem with the federal government not funding stem cell research.

Leave it to the private sector and private funds.

But I do wish he had used it many times before to stop federal funding bills.


21 posted on 07/19/2006 11:20:54 AM PDT by eyespysomething (How do I set a laser printer to stun?)
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To: Jedidah

Impressive!


22 posted on 07/19/2006 11:20:55 AM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

We love you George, God Bless You!!!!!


23 posted on 07/19/2006 11:21:04 AM PDT by sweetiepiezer
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To: Soul Seeker
Besides, no CONSEVATIVE supports this type of Government spending..RIGHT?

WRONG! Government spending is needed in areas where private companies are unwilling or unable to invest capital.

24 posted on 07/19/2006 11:21:13 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (Man Law: You Poke It, You Own It)
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To: TheDon

I am proud of my president. Federal funding should not be used in "experimenting" when it comes to destroying human life. Private funding goes on as it is, it is not banned. It causes more harm than good and I am
extremely disappointed in Frist and Hatch.


25 posted on 07/19/2006 11:21:19 AM PDT by jackv (just shakin' my head)
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To: Rummyfan

"Good for the President! All I can say is, if embryonic stem cell research is the boon to medicine that some say, why is federal funding needed to conduct it? Don't Glaxo Smith-Kline and Pfizer and Bayer have their own R&D funds????

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And so they are. Universities, too, are still working with embryonic stem cells. They're just not using federal funds to do it.

President Bush's veto really has no effect.


26 posted on 07/19/2006 11:21:24 AM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: TheDon

Another reason to be happy President Bush is in office!



I would be happier if he found it earlier. Now that he found it I hope he uses it often. Now as far as this bill goes, is the congress going to override. That would just make this useless if that happens.


27 posted on 07/19/2006 11:21:24 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Lunatic Fringe; Krodg; Zechariah11; LuvyaDubya; Paul_B; Howlin; alpha-8-25-02; BlessedAmerican; ...
This thread must be the reason mine was pulled.

Praise the Lord for a truly PRO-LIFE President!

A PING for answered prayer!

28 posted on 07/19/2006 11:21:30 AM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi Liberation VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: admiralsn

You are right, just a ban on funds.


29 posted on 07/19/2006 11:21:31 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Bush goes against the majority of Congress and 70% of American people to push his personal religious point of view.

Bush is going to have to do a good job of explaining why he finally chose to exercise the veto hero, because the media and the Dems will spin this one big time, with people in wheelchairs and the whole nine yards.

30 posted on 07/19/2006 11:21:37 AM PDT by jpl (Victorious warriors win first, then go to war; defeated warriors go to war first, then seek to win.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
The elected official's job is NOT to simply ape the will of the majority of his constituents nor vote his own will. His job is to do what is legally permitted and best for the societal unit over which he governs. Protecting innocent life is a high calling and moral obligation for any legitimate government. BRAVO! to the President!
31 posted on 07/19/2006 11:21:57 AM PDT by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (Test ALL things, hold to that which is True.)
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To: Rummyfan
All I can say is, if embryonic stem cell research is the boon to medicine that some say, why is federal funding needed to conduct it? Don't Glaxo Smith-Kline and Pfizer and Bayer have their own R&D funds????

I couldn't put it any better myself. I would add that these private companies have much more incentive to do the research efficiently and effectively. Give me the profit motive over politics any day.

32 posted on 07/19/2006 11:21:59 AM PDT by kesg
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To: CrawDaddyCA; Howlin; Peach; onyx; Dane

Ping


33 posted on 07/19/2006 11:21:59 AM PDT by Petronski (Living His life abundantly.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Military reasons. You remember Sputnik?


34 posted on 07/19/2006 11:22:09 AM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Bush goes against the majority of Congress and 70% of American people to push his personal religious point of view.

He is though on the side that a majority of conservative reps are.
Your claim that 70% of Americans favor embryonic stem cell culling is an outright lie. If you don't appreciate living in a country founded on the precepts of Judeo-Christianity then I'd suggest you vacate the United States.

35 posted on 07/19/2006 11:22:29 AM PDT by jla
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To: admiralsn

Just like building a fence, and adding border controls!


36 posted on 07/19/2006 11:22:47 AM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: jpl

Politically stupid, morally RIGHT.


37 posted on 07/19/2006 11:23:27 AM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi Liberation VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: MineralMan
President Bush's veto really has no effect.

None at all?

38 posted on 07/19/2006 11:23:40 AM PDT by Petronski (Living His life abundantly.)
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"Because no company is going to invest money that won't produce returns for 40 years.

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Not really. There's lots of embryonic stem cell research going on all over the place. Here at the University of Minnesota, they have several projects ongoing. They're funded by private grants, not federal ones.

Again, this veto is really meaningless if the goal is to prevent such research. It has no effect on it at all.


39 posted on 07/19/2006 11:23:51 AM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: ohioWfan; onyx; ELS; kstewskis; Salvation

Halleluja!! Praise God for this good man. Logic and the sanctity of all life mean nothing in partisan politics, obviously. Let them whine and bemoan it .. he's giving FIRE, sense and integrity to the critics ... YAY, W!!


40 posted on 07/19/2006 11:24:09 AM PDT by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: reelfoot

Pathetic that this is his 1st veto.

Spent money like he hates the stuff.

3000 dying a month in Iraq

Brink of WW3

No progress on borders or entitlements..tax reform ..tort reform..drilling ..etc...and he's worried about a some cells.


41 posted on 07/19/2006 11:24:18 AM PDT by Blackirish (Merry Fitzmas !!)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

That's a very conservative attitude. [sarcasm]

Funding is provided btw. It just isn't as great as YOU might wish because it's been a FAILURE as of yet. capitalists tend to invest in success. Only failures need government subsidies because they cannot make it on their own.



42 posted on 07/19/2006 11:24:30 AM PDT by Soul Seeker (Kobach: Amnesty is going from an illegal to a legal position, without imposing the original penalty.)
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To: TheDon

Here's a review of a spare parts movie for you:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067669/

Creepy flick.


43 posted on 07/19/2006 11:24:35 AM PDT by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!!!)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
I'm not always happy with what Bush does, but I'm ecstatic that he vetoed this. It is outrageous that we would start funding the harvesting of humans.
44 posted on 07/19/2006 11:24:36 AM PDT by stevio (Red-Blooded Crunchy Con American Male (NRA))
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To: hodaka
Religion over science.

Morality over all.

45 posted on 07/19/2006 11:24:56 AM PDT by jla
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Government paid destruction of embryos is a straw man for the abortion movement, which itself is a Destroy America's values movement.


46 posted on 07/19/2006 11:24:59 AM PDT by maica (Things may come to those who wait, but only the things left by those who hustle --Abraham Lincoln)
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To: hodaka
I believe the more proper wording is:

Proper fiscal constraint preferred over the death cult pushing for additional funding in an area of science that has yet to show a single cure even after BILLIONS have been spent on research.
47 posted on 07/19/2006 11:24:59 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: pageonetoo

You no like Roberts or Alito? WOT? Tax cuts?

Upholding the sanctity of human life surpasses them all in importance.


48 posted on 07/19/2006 11:25:05 AM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

He should have vetoed at least a dozen others.


49 posted on 07/19/2006 11:25:14 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (All Marines can throw a grenade. The really, really good ones can throw a slider with one.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Why didn't we get private companies to take us into space?

Because government saw a great opportunity to raise lots of bucks for their districts/constituents/lobbiest and in return be voted into office repeatedly so they shut out the private sector?

50 posted on 07/19/2006 11:25:18 AM PDT by eyespysomething (How do I set a laser printer to stun?)
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