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Officials: U.S., France reach Mideast resolution (US Appeasement?)
Yahoo/AP ^ | 8/5/2006 | AP

Posted on 08/05/2006 8:00:16 AM PDT by tobyhill

UNITED NATIONS - The United States and France reached agreement Saturday on a U.N. Security Council resolution aimed at ending the fighting between Israel and Lebanese Hezbollah guerrillas, U.S. Ambassador John Bolton said.

Bolton refused to comment on the text, but an official with knowledge of the document said the draft calls for a “full cessation of violence” between Israel and Hezbollah, but would allow Israel the right to launch strikes if Hezbollah attacks it.

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To: tobyhill

This is big news. Nothing is more effective than a UN resolution. Israel and Hezbollah will now march hand-in-hand into the sunset as brothers in peace.


41 posted on 08/05/2006 8:55:30 AM PDT by Axhandle
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To: jiggyboy

This "treaty" or whatever you want to call it is being brokered by two outside parties. Traditionally, each representative would be acting as the trusted friend of one of the combatants. The unspeakable truth is that here France officially gives notice to the world that it is Hezbollah's agent.

You've got this wrong. The French hate the Hezbos. In fact, France has suffered from Hezbos terrorism the most next to Israel and perhaps the US. The French are doing two things here. One: They are establishing themselves as a serious player in the region by jerking around the US. Two: They are annoying the hell out of the Hezbos by making an agreement the Hezbos do not want to make.

The Hezbos will die before they accept a deal where they don't get at least one morsal of a victory (Remember these fanatics have demented pride). In the end, the French may get a chance to shoot at the Hezbos as this plays out. Annoy America and annoy the Hezbos all in one day. Not bad.


42 posted on 08/05/2006 8:55:47 AM PDT by Firefox1
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To: tobyhill
Else we forget the results of appeasement...

Peace in our time - Chamberlain Video
43 posted on 08/05/2006 8:55:50 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: JasonC

But aren't the French going to disarm, disband the Hezzies and guarantee the peace?


44 posted on 08/05/2006 9:00:42 AM PDT by OldArmy52 (China & India: Doing jobs Americans don't want to do (manuf., engineering, accounting, etc))
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To: Axhandle
They'll be singing Kumbaya in the Poppy Fields.
45 posted on 08/05/2006 9:01:31 AM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: NorCalRepub

Worried about what? I'd be worried too; that's why they have been unequivocal so far. What are you talking about?


46 posted on 08/05/2006 9:02:19 AM PDT by jschwartz
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To: Thunder90


And Bush is Condi's boss.


47 posted on 08/05/2006 9:03:45 AM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: NorCalRepub

but that is not how the media will report it. Unfortunately, they will lie and distort


48 posted on 08/05/2006 9:07:04 AM PDT by John999
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To: GeronL

The Czech's got the same deal in 1938.


49 posted on 08/05/2006 9:07:08 AM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: tobyhill

They can reach all the agreements they want to but until the parties directly concerned reach agreement it means squat.


50 posted on 08/05/2006 9:10:01 AM PDT by McGavin999 (God watch over the young lions of Israel as they fight Hell's Bullies)
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To: tobyhill
"We'll call it the world's shortest sanctioned ceasefire."

A before-the-ink-is-dry default. Barely enough time to re-load.

51 posted on 08/05/2006 9:12:08 AM PDT by Eastbound
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To: tobyhill
After reading the resolution, it appears to me the US and Israel got more along what they wanted, then they had to compromise to the cowardly french.

Overall not a bad resolution, yet Hezbollah will break the ceasefire and Israel will be allowed to keep pounding them.
52 posted on 08/05/2006 9:20:55 AM PDT by jrooney ( Hold your cards close.)
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To: tobyhill

Memo

To: Israeli Ministry of Defense

From: FR Ministry of Sneaky Operations
Subject: Wimps, Frogs and Katushas

You are about to have a ceasefire forced on you by the wimps in the US State Department, in cooperation with the French(!) The only result will be to allow Hizbollah to rearm.

"If you don't like the outcome of the game; change the rules", (Captain James T. Kirk, Star Fleet Academy Graduation, June 2517)

Rather than destroying the next few dozen Katushas you find, save them. Then shoot them from inside Lebanon into Israel, (into some field outside Kiryat Shimona. That's where the media is. Let them get good pictures, etc.)

Blame Hizbollah for breaking the ceasefire. Ramp it up again.

And the Frogs and Washington Weenies will look stupid for endorsing the ceasefire.

53 posted on 08/05/2006 9:25:39 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in RVN meant never having to say I was sorry....)
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To: tobyhill
"Just heard n MSNBC the Hezbos just rejected the proposal before it was proposed."

Good. Now the Israeli's can kill more of them.

54 posted on 08/05/2006 9:28:15 AM PDT by blam
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To: tobyhill
Ceasefires are not a bad idea.

I called for many in Vietnam, to save ammunition, every time we killed all the VC or PAVN in the firefight.
55 posted on 08/05/2006 9:28:26 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in RVN meant never having to say I was sorry....)
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To: Berosus; Cincinatus' Wife; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; FairOpinion; ...

The Hizzies will reject it, whatever it happens to be. If they accept it, they call attention to the fact that they haven't complied with 1559.

Consider this just a first draft.

Differences Between U.S. and France Hobbling UN
Globe and Mail | August 4, 2006 | Patrick Martin
Posted on 08/05/2006 1:49:19 AM EDT by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1678159/posts

"Under Article 7, Israel will be unable to carry out aerial reconnaissance missions in order to identify possible Hezbollah preparations for an offensive."


56 posted on 08/05/2006 9:33:43 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Thursday, July 27, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Thunder90
Bolton may not have a choice but to come to agreement with the French. Condi is still his boss.

And George W. Bush is Condi's boss. So...

57 posted on 08/05/2006 9:34:21 AM PDT by El Gato
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To: tobyhill
That appeared to be a major victory for the U.S. and Israel.

This is sheer lunacy. The victory belongs to Hezbollah. They are now ranked among equals.

What they have done is give standing to a political militia equal to that of a nation state, Israel.

Who among us would accept the UN giving standing to the KKK equal to our government in Washington?

58 posted on 08/05/2006 9:35:18 AM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Keyhole


59 posted on 08/05/2006 9:35:39 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in RVN meant never having to say I was sorry....)
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To: tobyhill

The UN is irrelevant.


60 posted on 08/05/2006 9:37:35 AM PDT by nwctwx (Everything I need to know, I learned on the Threat Matrix)
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