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RETURN OF THE BOY SCOUTS [to the U.S. Supreme Court]
uexpress.com ^ | August 9, 2006 | James J. Kilpatrick

Posted on 08/09/2006 5:39:13 PM PDT by freedomdefender

After a six-year absence, the Boy Scouts of America are back in the high court again. This time it is their brother Sea Scouts who are asking the Supreme Court for a lifeline. The case of Evans v. City of Berkeley is a close one. These are the facts. Eugene Evans joined the Sea Scouts in Berkeley, Calif., in 1957. He was then 13 years old. It is not especially relevant, but he has served as skipper (the equivalent of a scoutmaster) of the Sea Scout ship Farallon for the past 35 years. The vessel serves as the equivalent of a BSA troop. Over the years, hundreds of teenagers have benefited from training in sailing, seamanship, engine repair and other maritime skills. The value of the Sea Scout experience is not questioned.

Seventy years ago the city began giving the Sea Scouts a free berth at its marina in exchange for rip-rap from a Scout-owned quarry. Everything went along without incident until 1997, when the Berkeley City Council amended its policy: Since then, as a condition for free occupancy, the city has required tax-exempt users of the marina to enter into a formal written pledge: Access to the facility cannot be predicated on a person's "race, color, religion, ethnicity, national origin, age, sex, sexual orientation, marital status, political affiliation, disability or medical condition."

The Sea Scouts were prepared to go along with everything except "sexual orientation" and "religion." Like land-based Boy Scouts, the Sea Scouts exclude avowed homosexuals and atheists. In an effort to preserve their berthing privilege, they filed a formal statement expressing their view: "Sexual orientation is a private matter, and we do not ask either adults or youths to divulge this information at any time."

This was not good enough for the Berkeley City Council. In May 1998, the council formally cut off the Scouts from their free berthing privileges. The Scouts and the city have been in and out of court ever since. Last year the California Supreme Court ruled 9-0 in the city's favor. Now the Scouts' appeal is pending in the high court here in Washington. The Scouts argued unsuccessfully in California that the city had denied them their constitutional right to freedom of association. Their controversial positions on religion and homosexuality may be unpopular in certain quarters, they concede, but the positions are not unlawful. More to the point, the Scouts' right to advocate at least their opinion as to homosexual membership has been constitutionally protected since the Dale case of 2000.

That was the case that involved Eagle Scout James Dale, an avowed homosexual and public advocate of gay rights. After the Scouts expelled him for his public apostasy, he sued for damages. The Supreme Court, speaking through Chief Justice Rehnquist, rejected his position 5-4. The effect of that opinion may be that Berkeley cannot withhold from the Scouts certain benefits to other nonprofit organizations. Then, again, it may be that the facts are sufficiently different in the case of the Sea Scouts.

In their petition to the Supreme Court, the Scouts allege that in April 1998 the city's Waterfront Commission attempted to impose particularly onerous conditions: In order to receive free berthing, the Scouts would have to "disseminate, advocate and proselytize Berkeley's viewpoint on sexual orientation in an effort to change the BSA's national policies regarding gays and atheists." The council refused to impose this requirement, but it lingers as a reflection of the municipal attitude.

The California Supreme Court rejected the Scouts' position across the board. In its view, the city had not penalized the Scouts for exercising a right of free speech or association; the city had not prohibited the Scouts from doing anything; it had not demanded "adherence to or renunciation of any idea or viewpoint." The city had merely refused to accommodate the activities of an organization engaged in invidious discrimination.

We heard essentially this same argument advanced from another quarter two years ago. Then the Department of Defense was engaged in a running battle with some of the nation's most prestigious law schools. The issue was whether the armed services, which banned homosexuals, would be able to recruit graduates on the same basis with other potential employers. The universities, hoity-toity, at first refused to extend more than the most minimal courtesies to Army recruiters. After they were threatened with loss of federal aid, they came around.

My guess is that the City of Berkeley has much greater leverage on the Scouts than Yale and Harvard had on the U.S. Army. Pipers still call tunes, and Berkeley is calling this one.

(Letters to Mr. Kilpatrick should be sent in care of this newspaper, or by e-mail to kilpatjj@aol.com.)


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; US: California
KEYWORDS: boyscouts; bsa; churchandstate; evansvcityofberkeley; firstamendment; homosexualagenda; lawsuit; scotus
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1 posted on 08/09/2006 5:39:14 PM PDT by freedomdefender
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To: freedomdefender

The Marina should be privatized


2 posted on 08/09/2006 5:40:42 PM PDT by GeronL (http://www.mises.org/story/1975 <--no such thing as a fairtax)
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To: freedomdefender

The Colon Cowboys are determined to get at those young boys.


3 posted on 08/09/2006 5:42:14 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Peace begins in the womb.)
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To: freedomdefender

The Scouts should demand reimbursement for the value of the rip-rap, plus interest.


4 posted on 08/09/2006 5:46:03 PM PDT by NicknamedBob (That is the trouble with essences. They are essentially troublesome.)
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To: freedomdefender

The subversive left and its support for the queer agenda, will backslide into the tarpits of history. The left continues moving to the left, which will eventually put them over the cliff. I am optimistic that their rabid radicalism will wipe them out soon enough.


5 posted on 08/09/2006 5:46:21 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: freedomdefender
berth at its marina in exchange for rip-rap from a Scout-owned quarry

Can some one please translate into land lubber? Rip-rap??

6 posted on 08/09/2006 5:46:35 PM PDT by Hazcat
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To: GeronL

Amen brother. I am also uncomfortable with cases that decide on How the government provides services as opposed to whether the government should be involved at all. Let the government privatize the marina and the Boy scouts parents would benefit from lower taxes and would not need to demean themselves. I pray that this case doesn't entrench government service delivery.


7 posted on 08/09/2006 5:47:26 PM PDT by newfarm4000n (God Bless Taxpayers)
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To: EagleUSA

BTTT


8 posted on 08/09/2006 5:48:45 PM PDT by oldtimer
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To: newfarm4000n

But if the marina were private, it could decide it does not wish to associate with the Scouts, just as the Scouts do not wish to associate with homosexuals.

The city cannot do this, because of the First Amendment.


9 posted on 08/09/2006 5:50:14 PM PDT by proxy_user
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To: Hazcat
in exchange for rip-rap from a Scout-owned quarry

google search anyone?? what is rip rap?

10 posted on 08/09/2006 5:51:11 PM PDT by GeronL (http://www.mises.org/story/1975 <--no such thing as a fairtax)
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To: freedomdefender
Since then, as a condition for free occupancy, the city has required tax-exempt users of the marina to enter into a formal written pledge: Access to the facility cannot be predicated on a person's "race, color, religion, ethnicity, national origin, age, sex, sexual orientation, marital status, political affiliation, disability or medical condition."

I wonder if they require people who drop their boat in for the day or rent berths to be non-discriminatory too.

11 posted on 08/09/2006 5:51:14 PM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that how you sell clothing.)
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To: proxy_user; newfarm4000n

If it were private this would not even be an issue.


12 posted on 08/09/2006 5:51:54 PM PDT by GeronL (http://www.mises.org/story/1975 <--no such thing as a fairtax)
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To: GeronL
what is rip rap?

Rocks. Imagine a big pile of rocks. That's rip-rap.

13 posted on 08/09/2006 5:54:08 PM PDT by kittycatonline.com
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To: freedomdefender

Being an Eagle Scout myself, I'm glad to see the little Sodomite was expelled. My suggestions are; relocation of the Sea Scouts to the Florida Panhandle area, finding a benefactor to pay the fees at their present dock, building a new berth on private land.

I hope the Supremes back the Scouts, but obviously the good people of Berkeley and the California courts are deluded, have entirely too much time on their hands and far too much of the taxpayer's cash to spend. It's sort of reminescent of the TSA, but I digress.


14 posted on 08/09/2006 5:54:22 PM PDT by 308MBR ( "She pulled up her petticoat, and I pulled out for Tulsa!" Abstinence training from Bob Wills.)
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To: GeronL

riprap is little stones all broken up...

Used to stabilize beaches.


15 posted on 08/09/2006 5:55:58 PM PDT by donmeaker (If the sky don't say "Surrender Dorothy" then my ex wife is out of town.)
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To: freedomdefender

Not accepting perversion as normal and right is "invidious discrimination."I think the California Supreme Court are a bunch of perverts themselves !!!


16 posted on 08/09/2006 5:57:44 PM PDT by Obie Wan
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To: freedomdefender
The vessel serves as the equivalent of a BSA troop.

Well, that is not quite right.

The vessel serves as their mode of transportation and the activities of the Scouts center around the vessel. The writer is confusing the word "ship" with "Vessel". In Sea Scouts the word "ship" has two meanings, one being a 'ship' in the traditional sense of the word, the other being synonymous with the word "troop". A group of Boy Scouts is termed a "Troop", a group of Sea Scouts is termed a "ship".

17 posted on 08/09/2006 5:59:44 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other peoples money -- M. Thatcher)
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To: kittycatonline.com

why does the city want a pig pile of rocks?? for pilings used where the piers are anchored?


18 posted on 08/09/2006 6:01:03 PM PDT by GeronL (http://www.mises.org/story/1975 <--no such thing as a fairtax)
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To: GeronL

If it were private this would not even be an issue.


Thats what I said. taxpayers should not have to pay for things like this. No subsidies and lower taxes.


19 posted on 08/09/2006 6:01:04 PM PDT by newfarm4000n (God Bless Taxpayers)
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To: 308MBR
but obviously the good people of Berkeley

You've never been to Berkeley have you?

20 posted on 08/09/2006 6:01:16 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other peoples money -- M. Thatcher)
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