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Muslim doctor wants apology from U.S. airline [booted for praying]
CBC News ^ | 8/19/2006 | staff

Posted on 08/21/2006 10:02:50 AM PDT by TChris

A Winnipeg doctor is demanding an official apology and compensation from United Airlines after being kicked off a flight in the U.S. this week, an incident he has characterized as "institutionalized discrimination." Dr. Ahmed Farooq, a Muslim, was escorted off an airplane in Denver on Tuesday. According to Farooq, reciting his evening prayers was interpreted by one passenger as an activity that was suspicious.

"The whole situation is just really frustrating," Farooq said. "It makes you uneasy, because you realize you have to essentially watch every single thing you say and do, and it's worse for people who are of colour, who are identifiable as a minority."

Farooq said the allegation came from a passenger who appeared drunk and had previously threatened him during the trip.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airlines; airlinesecurity; islam; muslim; prejudice; united; wot
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To: ClearBlueSky; Lunatic Fringe

"Mc Veigh and Mohammed Atta. Wanna compare? "

It appears that LF is arguing as a leftist would. Distorting what little supporting information he has, and ignoring points he can't refute.

Nice job all. LF won't be convinced, but anyone who is objective has to see that muslims created their own problems.


101 posted on 08/21/2006 10:51:40 AM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Thousands and thousands condemn terrorism?
We choose to ignore it??
Seems like those pesky devout Muslim terrorists are ignoring it too!! Why shouldn't we?
Thousands and thousands of imams--Not very effectual are they? Why is that?
Thanks for the laugh of the week!


102 posted on 08/21/2006 10:51:52 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: TChris
Devout Muslim, meet Devout Christian. Muslim gets kicked off plane. Christian gets persecuted by anti-Christ groups in his own country and has to fight for his rights on a daily basis.

Which is worse?

103 posted on 08/21/2006 10:52:02 AM PDT by pray4liberty (School District horrors: http://totallyunjust.tripod.com)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Sure there is. Oh CAIR denounces terrorism on it's web site. They also call Israel's defense of it's own people and land, terrorism. I'm not convinced.

So where are these thousands and thousands of muslims that have condemned ISLAMIC terrorism (not some nebulous term that can be twisted to mean something else)? The last muslim rally I saw boasted scores of PLO looking goobers sporting a bunch of hate-filled anti-evil-joo signs. These guys looked to me to be supporting terrorism and terrorists (most specifically the hezbolamers).

Just because you say it is so, does not make it so - particularly if you are a member of the death-cult.

104 posted on 08/21/2006 10:52:07 AM PDT by SlayerOfBunnies (muslims: fix islam, convert to something less violent, or stop your whining.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Security told him after he was pulled off the plane that he should NOT have been pulled off, that the airline overreacted. Then he had to buy another plane ticket to get home.

No imagination here, just the facts as presented in the article.

Take some remedial reading classes, pal.
"Had to" has two possible meanings, and the writer, and you, evidently, have a investment at suggesting the wrong one.

Every other muslim pulled off a flight for whatever reason have been put on a later flight at no additional cost to themselves.

If this maggot "had to" pay for another ticket, it was simply because he did not feel like taking the time to allow the airline to make the normal arrangements. Muslims are known for their arrogance only second to their murderous inclinations.

105 posted on 08/21/2006 10:53:36 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: SlayerOfBunnies
What is he doing out of his 3rd world crap-hole anyway? Who invited him?

Thanks for the laugh...that qualifies for Post of the Afternoon!

106 posted on 08/21/2006 10:54:28 AM PDT by pray4liberty (School District horrors: http://totallyunjust.tripod.com)
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To: Xenalyte

I believe the Koran is very lenient on this requirement for people who are traveling.

I know it is very lenient toward travelers during Ramadan, allowing those on journeys to eat and drink during the day.

There is no absolute requirement that you HAVE to do your prayers at set times if it is not convienient.

And anyway, the perception of the other people on the plane that something was wrong is still based on the knowledge that the terrorists did their jihad prayers before taking over the planes on 9/11.


107 posted on 08/21/2006 10:55:31 AM PDT by squarebarb
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To: TChris

Shows why 757's should be equipped with a Bomb-Bay.


108 posted on 08/21/2006 10:55:46 AM PDT by Doc Savage (Bueller?....Bueller?...Bueller?...Bueller?...Pelosi?...Pelosi?...Pelosi?...)
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To: Eastbound
ROFL - I like the way you think!
109 posted on 08/21/2006 10:55:47 AM PDT by SlayerOfBunnies (muslims: fix islam, convert to something less violent, or stop your whining.)
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To: Kenton
But if I'm ever on a plane and somebody does what you suggested, I'll be sure to give ya a "FReeper wave" and a big grin as Security escorts you off the plane. ;)

Your loyalties are unclear.
Would that be before or after the maggot blocking the aisle is escorted off?

110 posted on 08/21/2006 10:56:04 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
McVeigh was an agnostic.

Try again.
111 posted on 08/21/2006 10:58:17 AM PDT by JRochelle
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To: pray4liberty

Thanks! :-D


112 posted on 08/21/2006 10:58:41 AM PDT by SlayerOfBunnies (muslims: fix islam, convert to something less violent, or stop your whining.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
My McVeigh example was in reply to Slayer's lame "I'm not a muslim. Therefore I'm not a terrorist" remark.

In Englis, that statement makes sense, beyond the second grade, only if you were actually addressing Timothy McVey... Which you were not.

113 posted on 08/21/2006 10:59:43 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Thousands and thousands of Muslim leaders and Imams have condemned terrorism time and again, you just choose to ignore it.

No Achmed, your closest buddies, the Main Stream Media, may be choosing to ignore it.
Bottom line, the silence is deafening.

114 posted on 08/21/2006 11:01:33 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: SlayerOfBunnies
So where are these thousands and thousands of muslims that have condemned ISLAMIC terrorism

Again, you CHOOSE to ignore it. Thousands of muslim leaders are offended by the perversion of Islam to promote violence.

But consider this, you and Islamofacists have something in common: you are both passionately ignorant of Islam and seem to intentionally misinterpret the Koran to support your agenda. They do it to justify violence, you do it to justify prejudice.

115 posted on 08/21/2006 11:02:30 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (Man Law: You Poke It, You Own It)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Why are these thousands of Muslims leaders being ignored by other Muslims?? Why aren't they raising the 'good' Muslim masses against them?
Why are we supposed to give some third=rate mullah who says,
'maybe we shouldn't kill all the Jews, just the ones who won't submit', points for condemning terrorism when THEY ARE INEFFECTUAL??
The terrorists aren't following some pencilled-in version of Islam- they're getting their orders right from the unchanged, word-of-Allah, revered Koran.
Islam IS the problem.


116 posted on 08/21/2006 11:07:21 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: brownsfan

"BTW, if someone were doing a Gregorian Chant I'm sure they'd have been asked to silence or leave."

Yes, but probably because your average Joe Moron doesnt know the difference between a christian liturgy and a muzzie prayer.


117 posted on 08/21/2006 11:07:57 AM PDT by ketelone
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To: TChris

So sorry for your inconvenience. I’m sure it was much worse than the inconvenience experienced by all those poor people incinerated at their desk on 9/11.


118 posted on 08/21/2006 11:08:24 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Prejudice? or Murder??

Let me think...

119 posted on 08/21/2006 11:08:29 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: brownsfan
but anyone who is objective has to see that muslims created their own problems.

Anyone who is objective has to see that Islamic extremists/terrorists created these problems. This thread and comments being made are disturbing, sickening, and an insult to FR and most of it's good FReepers.

120 posted on 08/21/2006 11:09:07 AM PDT by Chena ("I'm not young enough to know everything." (Oscar Wilde))
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To: beaversmom

Whether it was in the name of christianity, or all that smells of fruitcake, he killed a lot of people.


121 posted on 08/21/2006 11:09:26 AM PDT by ketelone
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To: Lunatic Fringe
I haven't heard this supposed condemnation of islamic terrorism and neither, I suspect, have you. At any rate, even presupposing that it exists - if I haven't heard it then I can't possibly be ignoring it. Logic - it isn't all that complicated.

As to ignorance of islam - before 9/11/01 I *was* ignorant (mostly) about islam. Since then, I've been given a crash (sorry - horrible pun) course in it and I'm learning more daily. I've yet to learn anything about it that fails to turn my stomach.

Technically, what I'm justifying is bigotry against islam, not prejudice. Prejudice - to pre-judge - assumes drawing a conclusion before one has sufficient facts. Before 9/11, I had inappropriately drawn the conclusion that islam was just some other religion with which I disagreed. That was prejudice, but in islam's favor. Now, having had access to a better and more representative set of facts about islam, I conclude that it is a murderous death cult, worshiping a goofy moon-god at the behest of a pedophile prophet. Further, I conclude that it is full to bursting with millions of nitwit followers just itching for a chance to blow themselves to bits.

That's bigotry (earned by actions of islam, by the way) - not prejudice.

122 posted on 08/21/2006 11:10:03 AM PDT by SlayerOfBunnies (muslims: fix islam, convert to something less violent, or stop your whining.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
But consider this, you and Islamofacists have something in common: you are both passionately ignorant of Islam and seem to intentionally misinterpret the Koran to support your agenda. They do it to justify violence, you do it to justify prejudice.

EXCELLENT COMMENT, and ACCURATE!

123 posted on 08/21/2006 11:11:08 AM PDT by Chena ("I'm not young enough to know everything." (Oscar Wilde))
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To: ketelone

No kidding. I don't get your point. I wasn't arguing he didn't kill people.


124 posted on 08/21/2006 11:11:33 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Lunatic Fringe; SlayerOfBunnies
Again, you CHOOSE to ignore it. Thousands of muslim leaders are offended by the perversion of Islam to promote violence.

Yeah, we all are missing the point right, it's only you and the millions of good muslims that get it? You are becoming a parody of your own argument.




125 posted on 08/21/2006 11:11:58 AM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: Publius6961
Let me ask this. Any muslim or muslim apologist can answer.

How many mass murders would it take for you to allow that perhaps islam might be the problem?

Ten muslims leaving behind "martyr tapes" and carrying a quran?

100?
1000?
10,000?

100,000?
1,000,000?

126 posted on 08/21/2006 11:12:46 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Chena

"This thread and comments being made are disturbing, sickening, and an insult to FR and most of it's good FReepers."

We are at war. The enemy is great in number and dedication. War isn't pretty. If this offends your sensibilites, perhaps you should avoid this topic? I think most of what has been said here is justified, and needed.


127 posted on 08/21/2006 11:14:25 AM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: Publius6961
Your loyalties are unclear. Would that be before or after the maggot blocking the aisle is escorted off?

Have no doubts about my loyalties. I was presuming YOU would be politely escorted to security, where you would explain what happened and everyone would have a great laugh and you would go on your way.

I presumed that he would be dragged feet first, with his head bumping down the steps, and deposited in the "Lost Luggage" area. ;)

128 posted on 08/21/2006 11:16:13 AM PDT by Kenton
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To: Lunatic Fringe
I'll see your one Christian attack and raise you thousands of Muslim terror attacks.

The List of Islamic Terror Attacks

This list began as a single page. Now, the authors have to create a new page every six months, there are so many attacks. Cursor to end of the page for previous years.

Oh, and don't forget Jayna Davis's work that strongly suggests an Iraqi involvement with the Murrah Building bombing.

JaynaDavis.com

The moral equivalence crowd thanks Allah every day for Timothy McVeigh.
129 posted on 08/21/2006 11:16:25 AM PDT by Beckwith (The dhimmicrats and liberal media have chosen sides and they've sided with the Jihadists.)
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To: ketelone

"Yes, but probably because your average Joe Moron doesnt know the difference between a christian liturgy and a muzzie prayer."

I know you have a point there, but it's not obvious. You seem to be wanting to take a swipe at people who distrust muslims, but don't have the fortitude to make a direct statement?

As wrong headed as LF is, at least he's not trying to hide his agenda.


130 posted on 08/21/2006 11:16:35 AM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: TChris

Dear Ahmed. We are sorry you flew our airline.

There's your apology.


131 posted on 08/21/2006 11:17:18 AM PDT by jw777
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To: TChris
And we are going to continue to watch every single thing you, and all your co-religionists, say and do, for the foreseeable future. So stay home, or perhaps go back to your ancestral hell hole and allow us some peace of mind when we travel in our own country.
132 posted on 08/21/2006 11:18:20 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: ketelone

"Whether it was in the name of christianity, or all that smells of fruitcake, he killed a lot of people."

Again, a pointless observation? Yes McVeigh did kill a lot of people. But his action was that of a sick man, not one of a crazed zealot from a death cult.

BTW, I didn't post #51, yet you send to me?

Are you confused?


133 posted on 08/21/2006 11:19:52 AM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: TChris

I pray on takeoff and landing, and during in-flight turbulence, but my prayers are characterized mainly by my white knuckles.


134 posted on 08/21/2006 11:19:59 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: TChris

Christians can pray silently; so can Muslims. If he objects to being treated this way, he should organize nonviolent Muslims (if there is such a thing) to protest in an extreme way against the terrorists -- the people who have created this monster. When they stop the killing, we can stop the profiling.


135 posted on 08/21/2006 11:21:38 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: Publius6961

"Bottom line, the silence is deafening."

Really? Your ignorance is astounding...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/5111092.stm
http://www.unc.edu/%7Ekurzman/terror.htm
http://www.muhajabah.com/otherscondemn.php
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2001/09/0925_TVkoran.html


These links came from a quick Google search of "Muslims condemn terrorism". Muslim leaders and scholars have long condemned the acts committed in the name of Islam.

Your hatred and bigotry comes shining through in this thread. You called this man, who committed no crime whatsoever, a "maggot" based on nothing than his religious belief. I am embarassed that such nonsense is continued to be posted on FR, a board to which I have proudly contributed financial support for almost 9 years. You are the reason many people are starting to see FreeRepublic as the "Idaho-Compound Wing" of the GOP.

Your disgusting, fanatical, racist dogmatism is just as deplorable as those intolerant Islamofascists causing havoc in the world.


136 posted on 08/21/2006 11:21:51 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (Man Law: You Poke It, You Own It)
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To: brownsfan
We are at war. The enemy is great in number and dedication. War isn't pretty. If this offends your sensibilites, perhaps you should avoid this topic? I think most of what has been said here is justified, and needed.

Gosh, I didn't know we're at war, or that war isn't pretty. When our son fought in Iraq, I thought it was just a real pretty cake-walk. (HEAVY SARCASM HERE) Just who's side are you on anyhow? If your goal is to turn the ENTIRE world population of Muslims against us, just keep on spouting hate talk and clumping every Muslim man, woman and child into the same profile as an Islamic extremist/terrorist/murdering lunatic.

I know who the enemy is.

137 posted on 08/21/2006 11:23:44 AM PDT by Chena ("I'm not young enough to know everything." (Oscar Wilde))
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To: rhombus

Absolutely correct! It is my prayer that gets the plane in the air and keeps it there and no one knows I am praying. Silent prayer works.
;9)


138 posted on 08/21/2006 11:24:15 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: SlayerOfBunnies

Hee Hee!


139 posted on 08/21/2006 11:27:07 AM PDT by Eastbound
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To: SlayerOfBunnies

We've all given up personal rights when we go on planes..asking Muslims not to pray publicly is not asking alot. I have never seen a bigger group of whiners than Muslims..honestly.


140 posted on 08/21/2006 11:28:50 AM PDT by Hildy (Faith is not believing that God can. It is knowing that God will.)
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To: Chena

Misinterpretation!
The fall-back defense Islam loves.
Ok- so the sacred Koran, written in a more barbaric age, is being MISinterpreted in 2006.
Would it not be logical, then, to have a REVISED version of the Koran which CORRECTLY interprets the parts those pesky terrorists are using to 'hijack' the 'religion'?
Why is the misinterpretation being allowed?
All the world needs is the Koranic New Testament, in which all doubt about it's true beliefs and rules are erased once and for all. Wouldn't that deprive the nasty Islamofacists of the permission they say they have?
So what's more important? The continuation of a kind, benevolent religion that is being 'misinterpreted', or the translation of the Koran?


141 posted on 08/21/2006 11:30:53 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: Chena

"I know who the enemy is."

And we fight our war with our hands tied behind our back trying to keep from offending sensiblities.

The problem is, islam is irrecoverable as a religion. I am not alone in this view. I have read enough about islam that I think it's more than a Dark Age. There are 1.5 billion muslims in the world. Not all of them are evil. It's impossible to have 1.5 billion evil people.

But, with taqiyya and some of the other nice features of islam, it's impossible to tell good from bad in the muslim world. This is a bigger war than you think. It's not just Iraq. It's islam versus everyone else.


142 posted on 08/21/2006 11:33:41 AM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: TChris
If this guy wants an apology, here should shiite in one hand and wish for the apology in the other, and see which one fills up first.
143 posted on 08/21/2006 11:36:20 AM PDT by semaj
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To: TChris
When I pray on a plane....and I have prayed on a plane...

...I sit quietly, with my eyes closed and pray quietly, soundlessly.

So what was he doing to draw attention to himself....???(I think I can guess)

144 posted on 08/21/2006 11:37:22 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: ClearBlueSky

Do you honestly believe that if a new, and improved Koran was written, the Islamic extremists would have a change of heart? You have GOT to be kidding. That has to be the most ridiculous idea I've heard in ages.


145 posted on 08/21/2006 11:37:59 AM PDT by Chena ("I'm not young enough to know everything." (Oscar Wilde))
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To: brownsfan

You just made my blood run cold.
What cosmic law limits the number of evil people that can exist?
We'd best not be imposing limits on evil because it makes us comfortable to do so.
1.5 billion evil people on the planet may be too small a number to imagine, not too large.


146 posted on 08/21/2006 11:38:06 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Again, you CHOOSE to ignore it. Thousands of muslim leaders are offended by the perversion of Islam to promote violence.

Thousands of Germans were offended by the Nazis but it didn't matter. Millions died. What is the reality of the situation? The Nazis ruled just like the Islamonuts are the power in Islam right now.

147 posted on 08/21/2006 11:38:27 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Lunatic Fringe

The jerk knows he will taunt people with his "prayers" and then when people react in the proper way, which is: "What kind of freak does prayers in the airplane hallway?" he'll decide to be ultra-victim-number-one including the usual buzzwords; i.e., "person of colour".

This guy was purposely trying to make a scene just like the Syrian "musicians" doing the dry run bathroom deal in the plane. Remember that? Now connect it to the liquid controversy. Uh huh.


148 posted on 08/21/2006 11:39:59 AM PDT by AmishDude
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Yeah, cause white Christians NEVER commit 99.999999999999999% of the acts of terrorism, right? THAT'S MORE ACCURATE!


149 posted on 08/21/2006 11:39:59 AM PDT by litehaus
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To: TChris
"It makes you uneasy, because you realize you have to essentially watch every single thing you say and do..."

Ha! Welcome to the US of A created by the Politically Correct Police of the Liberal Left, Mr. Farooq.

150 posted on 08/21/2006 1:11:05 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Dawn of light...lying between a silence and sold sources...)
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