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To: tang0r
Alcohol is a bad thing. Drink enough and you can be impaired for a day or even two.

Marijuana, however, impairs a user for weeks. It's use is also tied to the development of schizophrenia and clinical depression.

Equating the two is pointless.
9 posted on 08/28/2006 7:33:46 AM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: BenLurkin
"Equating the two is pointless

no,
discussing legalization of THIS drug is pointless...
with you and so many "so called" conservatives..

phhff

24 posted on 08/28/2006 7:40:57 AM PDT by xhrist ("You don't have a soul. You are a Soul. You have a body. " - C.S. Lewis)
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To: BenLurkin
Alcohol is a bad thing. Drink enough and you can be impaired for a day or even two.

Drink enough and it will impair your ability to live.

Marijuana, however, impairs a user for weeks.

Nonsense. Even though the two substances take different amounts of time to be eliminated from the system, taking that to mean that any level "impairs" the user is baloney.

It's use is also tied to the development of schizophrenia and clinical depression.

Like alcohol? So they are the same, kinda?

Equating the two is pointless.

If you are trying to avoid being on the wring side of an argument, yes it is pointless for you to concede.

They are different substances, yes. So they do different things. But they are similar in enough other aspects to make the comparisons on those levels valid.

And no, I have never used it.

34 posted on 08/28/2006 7:48:08 AM PDT by Protagoras (Lay down with dogs, get up with fleas)
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To: BenLurkin

"It's use is also tied to the development of schizophrenia and clinical depression."

You got that right. I have a family member who's clinical depression diagnosis points to such a causation. Pot is a very different kind of intoxicant than alchohol. And it stinks like hell.


37 posted on 08/28/2006 7:50:18 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: BenLurkin

Alcohol is a bad thing. Drink enough and you can be impaired for a day or even two.

Marijuana, however, impairs a user for weeks. It's use is also tied to the development of schizophrenia and clinical depression.

Equating the two is pointless.

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Both are powerful drugs which, used improperly can lead to serious negative consequences. The difference between them is in legal precedent. Alcohol has always been legal (excepting prohibition which is another great example of the power of precedent), and weed has always been illegal. Logically, neither should be legal, and if introduced now, would never get past the FDA.


53 posted on 08/28/2006 7:59:58 AM PDT by photodawg
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To: BenLurkin
Marijuana, however, impairs a user for weeks. It's use is also tied to the development of schizophrenia and clinical depression.

And you learned this where?
59 posted on 08/28/2006 8:05:16 AM PDT by phs3
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To: BenLurkin
Marijuana, however, impairs a user for weeks.

Duuuuude weeks!?!? What strain are you smoking?

73 posted on 08/28/2006 8:21:39 AM PDT by PissAndVinegar
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To: BenLurkin
Alcohol is a bad thing. Drink enough and you can be impaired for a day or even two. Marijuana, however, impairs a user for weeks. It's use is also tied to the development of schizophrenia and clinical depression. Equating the two is pointless.

ROTFL, sorry it's so funny when I read posts of profound ignorance.

84 posted on 08/28/2006 8:37:19 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: BenLurkin
Alcohol is a bad thing. Drink enough and you can be impaired for a day or even two. Marijuana, however, impairs a user for weeks. It's use is also tied to the development of schizophrenia and clinical depression. Equating the two is pointless.

Let me help you out anyway. Alcohol is a poison. Drink enough and you die. You can never overdose on MJ. It's relatively harmless and benign compared to caffeine, nicotine, and alcohol, especially when you stack up the deaths caused by each substance. MJ has killed a whopping zero people since the beginning of time.

86 posted on 08/28/2006 8:40:53 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: BenLurkin

Agreed, pot affectsthe mind for a long time. To equate alcohol with pot is not accurate. Alcohol really hurts people when taken to excess. Pot really hurts people when taken at all. There is no social smoking with pot. One inhale makes a person high and that is the end of it.

Kind of sad that this keeps coming up. That being said, the penalties for possession are a little bit too stringent.


104 posted on 08/28/2006 9:03:05 AM PDT by 2ndClassCitizen
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To: BenLurkin
Your assertion is not based on any fact. Impairment for weeks! That must be some great weed! What a load of BS.
126 posted on 08/28/2006 9:36:35 AM PDT by 7thOF7th (Righteousness is our cause and justice will prevail!)
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To: BenLurkin
Alcohol is a bad thing. Drink enough and you can be impaired for a day or even two.
Marijuana, however, impairs a user for weeks.

Highlights from Marijuana Myths, Marijuana Facts
MYTH: MARIJUANA'S ACTIVE INGREDIENT, THC, GETS TRAPPED IN BODY FAT. Because THC is released from fat cells slowly, psychoactive effects may last for days or weeks following use. THC's long persistence in the body damages organs that are high in fat content, the brain in particular.

FACT: Many active drugs enter the body's fat cells. What is different (but not unique) about THC is that it exits fat cells slowly. As a result, traces of marijuana can be found in the body for days or weeks following ingestion. However, within a few hours of smoking marijuana, the amount of THC in the brain falls below the concentration required for detectable psychoactivity. The fat cells in which THC lingers are not harmed by the drug's presence, nor is the brain or other organs. The most important consequence of marijuana's slow excretion is that it can be detected in blood, urine, and tissue long after it is used, and long after its psychoactivity has ended.

Drugs of Abuse

Cannabis


Drug

Dependence
Physical/Psychological

How Used

Duration
(hours)


Marijuana

Unknown/Moderate

Smoked, oral
pot, grass

2-4

Tetrahydro-
cannabinol

Unknown/Moderate

Smoked, oral

2-4

Hashish

Unknown/Moderate

Smoked, oral

2-4

Hashish Oil

Unknown/Moderate

Smoked, oral

2-4


Alcohol


Drug

Dependence
Physical/Psychological

How Used

Duration
(hours)


Ethyl Alcohol

Possible/Possible

Oral

1-4

Ethanol

Possible/Possible

Oral

1-4

Even the government doesn't believe the BS you BELIEVE!

165 posted on 08/28/2006 11:07:53 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: BenLurkin
It's use is also tied to the development of schizophrenia and clinical depression.
MORE BS...you want me to prove it too?
175 posted on 08/28/2006 11:32:13 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: BenLurkin
Marijuana, however, impairs a user for weeks.

Damn, where are you getting your stuff?
177 posted on 08/28/2006 11:38:14 AM PDT by Stone Mountain
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To: BenLurkin
"Marijuana, however, impairs a user for weeks. It's use is also tied to the development of schizophrenia and clinical depression...Equating the two is pointless."

What a silly statement

Alcohol is also tired to the development of mental illness

Alcohol is physically addictive, Marijuana is not.

Thousands die each year directly from the use of alcohol, nobody has died directly from the use of marijuana.

The effects of marijuana last a couple of hours, alcohol causes hangovers (an effect of physical addiction) and for some serious withdrawal symptoms that often require hospitalization - people die during alcohol withdrawal, nobody has ever died from marijuana withdrawal.

Thousands die each year on our roads related to the use of alcohol, this is not true about marijuana (although some people do die on the roads related to use of marijuana and even prescription drugs - it is only a handful.

Marijuana does not impair the user for weeks - that is pure Reefer Madness poppycock. Marijuana can show up on tests for week but this is because THC (the active ingredient) is not water soluble, not because the user is impaired for weeks.

Equating the two is pointless, alcohol is FAR MORE dangerous and kills far more people than marijuana - you are correct, equating the two is pointless

Marijuana laws are based on two reason:
1. Profound ignorance
2. Racism

If you are for marijuana laws, just state which reason you use.
226 posted on 08/28/2006 6:50:44 PM PDT by Last Visible Dog
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To: BenLurkin

I can't even begin to tell you how incorrect your post is.

You do realize the movie "reefer madness" was the 1930's version of propoganda, right? Things in that movie weren't really true.





233 posted on 08/28/2006 7:14:57 PM PDT by Dazedcat (Dear God, please make it stop)
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To: BenLurkin

"Alcohol is a bad thing. Drink enough and you can be impaired for a day or even two."

I guess your view is through rose colored glasses, if you have only seen people drink enough to be impaired for a day or even two.

But some people drink enough to be impaired for a lifetime or even two.


347 posted on 09/03/2006 10:54:43 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: BenLurkin

Marijuana does what????

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Impairs for weeks?????????

Here we see a poster who's ignorance is bliss.....but since I've been smoking pot for years on a very occasional basis....I know that this statement is so foolish as to be funny.

And yes I am a republican..;-)

schizophrenia and clinical depression?????

You obviously read that somewhere....but let me tell you....it ain't so.....NO WAY!!!!


366 posted on 09/03/2006 8:21:12 PM PDT by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: BenLurkin

You're right about potheads. Our family has some trouble with one stoner. The story continues.


398 posted on 09/08/2006 8:04:08 PM PDT by Loud Mime (An undefeated enemy is still an enemy.......war has a purpose.)
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