I've heard that many athletes are considered obese based on some sort of formula. Maybe I'm obese and don't know it. I wioll say I'm not as fat as these two.
Posted on 08/30/2006 12:17:45 PM PDT by Bushwacker777
"The British Fertility Society is recommending women with a body mass index of 36 and over should not be allowed access to fertility treatment.
Underweight women and those classed just as obese (BMI over 29) should be forced to address their weight before starting treatment, the society said. "
(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...
He said Prempro and other Rx hormones have additives that are not in bioidenticals. I've noticed that I have more energy and sleep better at night.
As for the protein shakes, I've been told [most recently at Curves] that you have to take in enough for your body to have something to burn regularly or it will actually store more fat when you drastically cut your intake. Or, maybe you just don't have much to lose. The last few pounds are the hardest most of the time.
I've heard that many athletes are considered obese based on some sort of formula. Maybe I'm obese and don't know it. I wioll say I'm not as fat as these two.
OMG - Is That Her BELLY?!!!
Uhm, go read the first line of the article again, homey.
I think this one should no longer produce children.
Oh wait. She just recently took care of that concern.
BMI is a recording studio. hat does that have to do with fat folks?
I'd like to think that the second picture (the Code Pinko) is a photoshop job.
I would agree about the portion control issues with the carb diets.
The medical literature has not established whether PCOS often causes obesity or vice versa, and it appears that there's some of both going on. What is known is that only about half of women with PCOS are even overweight, so it's clearly not a direct relationship. And in obese women, the PCOS symptoms including fertility problems improve with weight loss; for normal weight women, pharmaceutical intervention is the only thing that helps.
What's very clear, though, is that obesity with or without PCOS is strongly correlated with poor outcomes for IVF and other fertility treatments, so it's not unreasonable to limit access to expensive taxpayer-funded treatments when they're unlikely to be effective. Obesity is also strongly correlated with serious pregnancy complications, often with great harm to the fetus, so there's a good argument to be made for a policy of not encouraging artificial fertility treatments to bypass a natural mechanism which tends to shut down fertility in women for whom it would be dangerous.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?itool=abstractplus&db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=abstractplus&list_uids=12080440
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=16790100&query_hl=1&itool=pubmed_docsum
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=16816057&query_hl=1&itool=pubmed_docsum
It is well-known that once obesity is established, regardless of the cause, it results in permanent changes to body chemistry that make losing weight extremely difficult, as you have the misfortune to discover first-hand. I'm sure researchers will eventually figure out how to reverse that effect, but in the meantime, despite my government-shrinking urges, I think it's urgently important to mount a huge campaign against childhood overweight and obesity. It makes me livid to see parents buying candy bars and huge non-diet sodas for their already severely overweight children. The children are too young to know any better, but will be permanently saddled with the problem their parents inflicted on them (and given our increasingly socialist society, all of us get socked with the increased medical bills). A free society needs to emphasize personal responsibility, but how can you hold someone responsible for something which was taken out of their control during childhood by their parents?
There seems to be a widespread notion that some people are just more susceptible to gaining excess weight easily (no doubt true, though it only explains a fraction of the current obesity problem), and that therefore there is no point in aggressively attacking the problem in those people before their weight gets out of control, which is usually in childhood/adolescence (dangerously false). IMO an 8 year old who is 15% above his/her ideal weight should be treated as a medical emergency -- the severest consequences won't appear for many more years, but the opportunity to treat the condition and prevent those consequences is already quickly slipping away at that point.
And I went to Weight Watchers so I know the palm of the hand rule for main course helpings. Still, when I can't have the starch - which I don't miss very much - I'm apt to double up on the protein, especially baked whitefish.
Consuming Diet Coke should be illegal. I have yet to see a thin person consume Diet Coke. Only fat folks drink Diet Coke. Therefore, Diet Coke makes you fat.
I've seen folks so big they have their own area code.
This is one more example of how the nanny state is going to force us to do things "for our own good".
aint it the truth.
The protein will help with the apetite that's for sure.
What is the formula? Who said that this is the panacea for measuring obesity?
I agree that this is one of the dumber things I have seen in a while. However, Bushwacker777 posted it, not me.
doc30 are you an MD? Can you give me any valid scientific reason for the value for the height measurement to be squared rather than cubed?
Sorry brother. I messed up in my posting.
LOL. So that makes Teddy's pic legit?
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