1 posted on
09/14/2006 1:05:51 PM PDT by
neverdem
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To: neverdem
His Holiness speaks the truth and is not afraid to take heat for it. It's called a spine, something noticeably lacking in the Religion of Pieces.
2 posted on
09/14/2006 1:07:46 PM PDT by
stm
(Katherine Harris for US Senate!)
To: neverdem
I do not think any good will come from the visit to the Muslim world of a person who has such ideas about Islams prophet, Ali Bardakoglu, a cleric who is head of the Turkish governments directorate of religious affairs, said in a television interview there. He should first of all replace the grudge in his heart with moral values and respect for the other. This Ali Barkingdog character certainly gives a new perspective on the concept of hypocrisy ...
3 posted on
09/14/2006 1:07:56 PM PDT by
ArrogantBustard
(Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
To: neverdem
Exclusive to the NY Times: Muslim Leaders Assail Popes Speech on Islam!
To: neverdem
Is it too much to ask that these [ahem] journalists at the NYTimes use a capital P when referring to the Pope?
Sometimes these pontifs are not popular for speaking the truth. That comes with the territory. Remember how JPII angered the sodomites?
5 posted on
09/14/2006 1:10:53 PM PDT by
Disturbin
(Welcome to society -- morons with keys)
To: neverdem
Muslims are not used to criticism. We should not indulge them on this.
7 posted on
09/14/2006 1:12:00 PM PDT by
AmishDude
(`[N]on-state actors' can project force around the world more easily than Canada". -- Mark Steyn)
To: neverdem
The Holy Father spoke the truth. There is an evil violent murderous movement that is hell-bent on invading peaceful countries and converting them, or cut their heads off if they won't convert.
Disgusting to see these hypocrites criticize the Pope when they are the murderous head-chopping bastards.
8 posted on
09/14/2006 1:12:46 PM PDT by
Leftism is Mentally Deranged
(Islamic Fascists: The new nazis, aided and abetted by the left and their enablers in the media.)
To: neverdem
Muslim leaders in Pakistan, Morocco and Kuwait, in addition to those in Germany and France, also criticized the popes remarks, with many demanding an apology or clarification. The extent of any anger about the speech may become clearer on Friday, the Muslim day of prayer in which grievances are often vented publicly.
One of several rows housing Islam's Encyclopedia Of Grievances (Abridged Edition)
9 posted on
09/14/2006 1:13:06 PM PDT by
Semi Civil Servant
(Colorado: the original Red State.)
To: neverdem
The extent of any anger about the speech may become clearer on Friday, the Muslim day of prayer in which grievances are often vented publicly. LOL
Think about that for a second. It speaks volumes.
10 posted on
09/14/2006 1:13:21 PM PDT by
B Knotts
(Newt '08!)
To: neverdem
Islam's prophet was and is a DOG!
To: neverdem
Oooo, the muslims feelings got hurt....oh boo hoo hoo. Did anyone catch the caller on Rush's show yesterday who was a Shiite muslim and when Rush asked why aren't more muslims vocal in their outrage about terrorists she sort of had a very vague anaswer like, "you just don't hear abuut them.."
To: neverdem
On Tuesday, Benedict delivered a major address which some church experts say was a defining speech of his pontificate saying that the West, and specifically Europe, had become so beholden to reason that it had closed God out of public life, science and academia. Actually, that's not what he said at all. But I guess it's what the Times wanted to hear.
What he actually said is that the God of Christians is a God of reason, himself knowable by reason (even Thomas Aquinas said this), and creator of a world knowable by reason and running on the basis of laws that are knowable. Islam, on the other hand, posits a god who is arbitrary and unknowable, bound to no natural law within himself, and creator of a world that is entirely arbitrary in its existence and bound by no natural law; law comes from without, imposed by the irrational god, who could as soon order one thing as order its exact opposite.
In terms of modern knowledge, he said that post-Enlightenment man often separates what he knows of reason from the source of all reason, the Logos. But he did not attack reason.
His point was to show the difference between the Islamic world-and-deity view and that of Christianity, as well as to examine what it was in the modern Western world that had separated modern society from the roots of reason and set it adrift so that it might paradoxically be the prey of Islam or any other nihilistic, anti-rational and chaos-driven ideology.
13 posted on
09/14/2006 1:14:53 PM PDT by
livius
To: neverdem
Glad he reversed course from his earlier comments during the Lebanon war.
14 posted on
09/14/2006 1:15:03 PM PDT by
MNJohnnie
(New Democrat Talking Point: Rove made us do it!)
To: neverdem
I fear for the Pontiff's life. People of good will, please say a prayer for this brave man's safety.
16 posted on
09/14/2006 1:15:31 PM PDT by
old and tired
(Run Swannie, run!)
To: neverdem
Gee, if Muslims spent a fraction of the time being aggreived over real atrocities committed by their followers instead of being ridiculously defensive about perceived insults or slights, the world would be a WAY better place.
19 posted on
09/14/2006 1:18:30 PM PDT by
alwaysconservative
(Who on earth dresses those women on the Weather Channel? Can't they find clothes that fit?)
To: neverdem
Some of the strongest words came from Turkey, possibly putting in jeopardy Benedicts scheduled visit there in November. Uh oh. Hope no PO'ed Turk tries to assasinate the Pope. Ooops - that already happened!
Sometimes, doncha just get sick of the muzzies and all their whining???
21 posted on
09/14/2006 1:18:48 PM PDT by
Rummyfan
To: neverdem
He should first of all replace the grudge in his heart with moral values and respect for the other.
Well, I can't speak for the Pope, but I know that I'll replace the grudge in my heart with respect for Moslems when they stop desiring to cut my head off or blow me up for refusing to convert to their religion!
To: neverdem
He should first of all replace the grudge in his heart with moral values and respect for the other.
...and if he doesn't we will capture infidel devils and cut their heads off to prove our religion is peaceful.
24 posted on
09/14/2006 1:20:59 PM PDT by
WV Mountain Mama
(If Bin Laden were a woman, Clinton would have nailed him.)
To: neverdem; NYer
I think BXVI knows that this is the major enemy we have to face now.
26 posted on
09/14/2006 1:22:24 PM PDT by
redgolum
("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
To: neverdem
To: neverdem
Considering the moral disaster that the Muslim world is, this kind of sanctimoniousness is really hard to stomach.
If the Pope goes, he no doubt will go on his own terms. If he doesn't go, likewise; plus, he has good scriptural grounds for standing his ground regarding the Muslims;
"What concord hath Christ with Belial?"
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