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Where have all the black soldiers gone? African-Americans not in Eastwood's new WWII film
The Guardian (UK) ^ | October 21, 2006 | Dan Glaister

Posted on 10/22/2006 2:41:18 PM PDT by EveningStar

On February 19 1945 Thomas McPhatter found himself on a landing craft heading toward the beach on Iwo Jima...

Sadly, Sgt McPhatter's experience is not mirrored in Flags of Our Fathers, Clint Eastwood's big-budget, Oscar-tipped film of the battle for the Japanese island that opened on Friday in the US. While the film's battle scenes show scores of young soldiers in combat, none of them are African-American. Yet almost 900 African-American troops took part in the battle of Iwo Jima, including Sgt McPhatter...

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: blackhistory; clinteastwood; flagsofourfathers; history; iwojima; point008percent; racism; wwii
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To: EveningStar

FDR(a LIBERAL DEM) did not let "Black" Americans serve in the frontline is WW II.


41 posted on 10/22/2006 3:44:46 PM PDT by US Navy guy
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To: US Navy guy

Being a natural socialist, FDR also ordered that Japanese-Americans be sent to a rural network of American gulags.


42 posted on 10/22/2006 3:50:13 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: EveningStar

BTTT


43 posted on 10/22/2006 3:50:17 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: EveningStar; norton
Conan Doyle wrote a couple of really good historical novels set in 14th c. England.

A black African sailor created quite a sensation in Sussex, believe me. Most people in England at that time had never seen a black man.

44 posted on 10/22/2006 3:50:59 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: CAWats; DownInFlames
My dad says the same thing too. He was in Africa, Sicily, and Italy.

He also said that some of the truck drivers refused to do their work at Anzio under fire, the CO had to threaten to shoot them on the spot.

45 posted on 10/22/2006 3:53:06 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: EveningStar
The failure to transfer the active role played by African-Americans at Iwo Jima to the big screen does not surprise him. "One of the marines I interviewed said that the people who were filming newsreel footage on Iwo Jima deliberately turned their cameras away when black folks came by. Blacks are not surprised at all when they see movies set where black troops were engaged and never show on the screen. I would like to say that it was from ignorance but anybody can do research and come up with books about African-Americans in world war two. I think it has to do with box office and what producers of movies think Americans really want to see."

Were the black guys actors? I tend to think that only actors would be permitted on the set, as well as various crew. Whether the director decided to eliminate that portion of the film in the editing room, or whether he changed his mind at the last moment before filming I can't say. But if black actors were on the set to be filmed, we can't say that Eastwood didn't have the intention of including them in the film.

46 posted on 10/22/2006 3:58:14 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Clemenza

My son saw 'Departed' last night and said it was "good".
Believe me, when my son says a movie is "good", it must be a potential Oscar winner for best picture.


47 posted on 10/22/2006 4:02:53 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

LOL. Sort of.


48 posted on 10/22/2006 4:03:38 PM PDT by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
"So you're going to INSIST"

I neither said or implied such a thing. Take your passion elsewhere.

49 posted on 10/22/2006 4:06:40 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: AnAmericanMother

In VN I saw the same sort of stuff.

It was like a mini-war at times at base.

We actually had 3 murders in our compound in Quang Tri
the culprits wern`t Amish

I`m gonna see the movie,had an uncle died at Iwo.


50 posted on 10/22/2006 4:10:30 PM PDT by 31M20RedDevil ( Wish we had a Ronald Reagan today (deep sigh))
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To: EveningStar

I've seen the picture of the flag raising many times and can't remember any black soldiers involved with the raising of that flag. So what's the big deal.


51 posted on 10/22/2006 4:15:22 PM PDT by fish hawk
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To: DownInFlames

My great-uncle was on Okinawa with the Marines. He certainly was not doing 'mess' duty then.


52 posted on 10/22/2006 4:15:49 PM PDT by Skywalk (Transdimensional Jihad!)
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To: 31M20RedDevil

My F-I-L was on Iwo, his jeep was blown up, he escaped without a scratch. Signal Corps.


53 posted on 10/22/2006 4:19:14 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: photodawg

26,000 causulties, with 6700 dead, not 8600

round numbers... :)


54 posted on 10/22/2006 4:20:19 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8)
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To: Victoria Delsoul

I would like to hear this moron explain the Black BRITISH history of soldiers fighting for Britain in WWII


55 posted on 10/22/2006 4:24:39 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8)
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To: RaceBannon

Good point.


56 posted on 10/22/2006 4:26:27 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Cicero
The more I hear about this movie, the less I am inclined to go see it.

The movie is good. I saw it Friday. You should see it too. Special Effects were incredible and did not seem like CGI effects even though they had to be there.

57 posted on 10/22/2006 4:28:21 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List for the FUNNIEST Blog on the Web)
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To: Siena Dreaming
His last boxing movie was horrible.

DEPRESSING is the word.

58 posted on 10/22/2006 4:29:07 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List for the FUNNIEST Blog on the Web)
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To: Skywalk

Okinawa was a much deeper batle than Iwo Jima, ANYONE there would be in combat soon enough!

Iwo Jima was smaller than Manhattan


59 posted on 10/22/2006 4:31:06 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Glad he made it.
Hey,I was in a jeep going out to Khe Sahn,my
Sgt driving,me taking pics and he ran off the
road down a hill into a rice paddy,my M-16 flying
into the water.

Amazing how little the difference between living
and dieing can be in war or anywhere


60 posted on 10/22/2006 4:32:15 PM PDT by 31M20RedDevil ( Wish we had a Ronald Reagan today (deep sigh))
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