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Philadelphia Opposes U.S. Observers at Polls
Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | October 27, 2006 | Marcia Gelbart

Posted on 10/30/2006 9:11:04 PM PST by Tamzee

Two weeks before Election Day, the city is fighting an attempt by the U.S. Justice Department to appoint federal observers for Philadelphia elections beginning Nov. 7 and lasting past next year's presidential race, until the end of 2009.

The effort to appoint the observers stems from a lawsuit filed by the federal government 14 days ago alleging that the city has violated the rights of its Hispanic voters.

Specifically, it charges that the city hasn't adequately recruited and trained bilingual poll workers, failed to provide sufficient election-related materials in Spanish, and prohibited Hispanic voters with limited English from choosing someone to help them inside the voting booth, which law permits.

"The record in this case clearly demonstrates that the city does not exercise sufficient control over its voting places to ensure compliance with the Voting Rights Act," the lawsuit states. It alludes to 50 Hispanic city residents who encountered problems in elections here, most since 2003. One, Myrna Cruz, testified that a poll worker forced her to vote for John Street for mayor in 2003, when she wanted to vote for Sam Katz. Others said they were ridiculed by poll workers who asked why they hadn't learned English.

The suit also says the city has no program to identify "the need for or the placement of Spanish-speaking poll workers and interpreters on election day" and that the city has paid people to be interpreters who don't speak Spanish.

City officials have called the allegations unfounded. A hearing has been scheduled for next Friday in U.S. District Court for the Eastern District.

With the election fast approaching, the city has been struggling to implement new federal rules on handicapped access, as well as a new state law requiring dozens of city polling places to be moved (they can no longer be inside bars or elected officials' homes, for instance).

Combined with troubles encountered in May's primary, when hundreds of voting machines malfunctioned, and now the federal lawsuit, the resulting challenges for the Nov. 7 election are perhaps unprecedented, election officials say.

"Everything is culminating at the same time," City Commissioner Edgar Howard said. "Just be glad this year isn't a presidential year," he said, when voter turnout is typically at its highest.

In the case of the federal lawsuit, U.S. Rep. Bob Brady, the Democratic Party chairman, and other local Democrats see partisan politics at work.

He said the suit was filed so close to Nov. 7 "probably to suppress the [Democratic] vote" and help GOP candidates such as U.S. Sen. Rick Santorum.

Michael P. Meehan, general counsel for the city Republican Party, dismissed Brady's explanation. "That's part of the spin machine to generate turnout," he said. "We didn't generate this. We didn't make any complaints."

But both party leaders agree that the proposed federal intervention goes too far.

"That's a disgrace. The Hispanics have no problem with the interpreters," Brady said.

"We do think they are going beyond," Meehan said.

According to the lawsuit, about 6.6 percent of the city's voting-age population is Hispanic, and more than a third of those people - 25,660 - speak only limited English.

Since 1974, the city has provided translators at polling places where census data indicates Hispanics live. The Justice Department wants Spanish language assistance citywide.

"This is one of those issues where the remedy far exceeds any potential need," city Solicitor Romulo Diaz said, adding that in the Nov. 7 election, the city also will provide translations via telephone in 200 languages, including Spanish.

Stressing that federal observers could use their authority to enter polling booths while people are voting, Diaz said: "We think that is not only something that could be misunderstood - it could even have a chilling effect and intimidate the very voters the Justice Department says it is trying to support."

Yesterday, department spokeswoman Cynthia Magnuson said: "No federal observers would ever enter a voting booth unless specifically requested by and with the expressed permission of a voter, and to suggest otherwise is just untrue."

She said there are currently federal observers in 169 municipalities throughout the country, including, most recently, Boston and Springfield, Mass.

In the last two elections, Diaz, at the Justice Department's request, said he had given its officials credentials to access city voting places to observe what bilingual assistance and signage were provided.

Those officials were not granted permission to enter individual polling booths.

"There are still some issues that we need to improve upon," said City Councilman Juan Ramos, Council's only Hispanic member. "But the Latino people don't need federal agents on Election Day to see how they vote or get behind the curtain with them."

A nonpartisan voters' right advocacy group, the Delaware Valley Voter Registration Education Project, held a news conference yesterday opposing the government effort.

The city's nonprofit election watchdog, the Committee of Seventy, also has had concerns about a lack of Hispanic voter participation. During the May primary, the committee recruited local volunteers to survey what assistance Spanish-speaking voters received at polling places in Latino neighborhoods, mainly in the 7th, 18th, 19th and 33d Wards. The committee later shared those results with the Justice Department, which was already conducting its own review.

"I wouldn't call the information we provided them definitive," committee president Zach Stalberg said. But the findings - too few translators, and some with questionable language skills, and not enough bilingual polling-place officials - "suggested there might be problems."

Said Stalberg: "We think there are enough indications of problems here to merit federal observers... . In our view, it won't do any harm."

---------------------------------- Contact staff writer Marcia Gelbart at 215-854-2338 or mgelbart@phillynews.com.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: corruption; election; elections; fraud; philadelphia; polls; voterfraud
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To: Tamzee

It has been reported here on FR many times over. And yeah, I would also like to see it in black and white.


21 posted on 10/30/2006 10:40:17 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: pawdoggie
Yum! yum! Yes, it is deliciously ironic and I love it.

Through their own crooked tactics, they may have invited the Feds to be their watchdogs.

22 posted on 10/30/2006 10:41:12 PM PST by IIntense
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To: Tamzee
Yeah, and the Dems said the Diebold machines were rigged. I spent a couple or more hours researching that one the other day, got my post censored by our local paper. It was tough to find good info about it, website after website parroting the party line. I did get a little redundant, hadn't slept the night before worrying about a family problem. Rough bunch here locally. Guy called me an idiot and loser for claiming that atheistic communists slaughtered millions, said he was an Independent. It was hard to find proof on the web. I don't want to post much more about it on the board in case google picks it up.

I know Republicans aren't lily white all the time, but nobody ever calls the Dems on vote fraud, like here we have this little obscure article, doubt it ever hits the mainstream press. Things are really getting vicious.

It was eerie. They were mocking Bush for his statement about how gloomy it would be if the Dems gain majority in Congress when he said that terrorists were spreading from, it's late, can't remember. I said he didn't go far enough, talked about Europe, the bus burnings in Paris, nothing in the local papers about that, posted a prediction that one week they wouldn't bother to empty the busses. The next day I saw the article on BBC about the woman being burned, didn't realize how severely, and posted about that, terrible what happened to her, read elsewhere that she is burned on 70% of her body and was a French citizen? from Senegal? (another thread here). That one made it through the censors. Even lunatics can sometimes read the writing on the wall.

23 posted on 10/30/2006 10:47:18 PM PST by Aliska
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To: Tamzee
A FR thread of a Washington Times article about Philly election fraud:

Philadelphia: City of (too many) voters

24 posted on 10/30/2006 10:52:43 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: rbosque
No kidding. Voting is one thing that should not be multilingualized. I went to the registrar of voters to turn in my absentee voting application the other day, and they have signs in about a dozen languages. I'm thinking, how can you vote when you can't understand the language that the issues are being debated in? American political debate is in English, as are our laws. It can be hard enough for a native-born English speaker to make sense of sometimes. How much can you really understand about American politics and government before learning English? I can only imagine what smears and lies go unanswered in other languages when the candidates don't even know they're being made. These non-English-literate voters are probably voting for and against fictional characters.

Now you have to learn English to become a naturalized citizen, and you have to be a citizen to vote, or if you are not a naturalized citizen, that means you were born here, and just how many people born in America don't know English by the time they are of voting age? I can imagine exceptional scenarios, and someone would tell me about immigrant ghettos, but really how many? Something doesn't fit about that.

25 posted on 10/30/2006 11:12:56 PM PST by FreePoster
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To: Red Steel
More FR threads:

Election Fraud: Philly Style

Governor Vetoes Voter ID Bill ( Fast Eddie Rides again in Pa. )

26 posted on 10/30/2006 11:16:05 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: metmom
My grandparents came over here from *the old country* without knowing English and they learned it.

Same here with my Dad's parents from Germany. Did the government accommodate them with interpretators and voting guidelines printed in German? No. Same for those who emigrated from Poland, Italy, etc.

I would like to know the rationale behind the exceptions made for legal Mexican immigrants. (Those who are here illegally should be deported.)

That taxpayers have to fund interpreters or any other special assistance at the polls is, IMO, another example of the government stealing what rightfully belongs to those who earned it...and they do it with impunity.

If the legal Mexicans want to vote in America, let them learn our language or just don't vote! If their allegiance is more to Mexico than the United States, well, that's another topic.

27 posted on 10/30/2006 11:26:51 PM PST by IIntense
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To: IIntense

An immigrant is technically required to learn English to become a citizen (who can then legally vote), so it makes no sense at all.


28 posted on 10/30/2006 11:32:45 PM PST by FreePoster
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To: FreePoster

I agree, how can you know the issues when you don't understand them in english and the contexts to which they are presented? It's just incredible. In the end, if the left wins, there will be no challenge from them but if concervatives win, I can already smell the lawsuits. I am sure they are already laying the groundwork for accusations of voter fraud. Just look what happened in Mexico a few months ago. These leftists will not rest until they're in power by whatever means neccesary.


29 posted on 10/30/2006 11:34:27 PM PST by rbosque
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Yeah, and I'm sure when that happens and found out, the media will look the other way. It's all abunch of horse dung.


30 posted on 10/30/2006 11:36:09 PM PST by rbosque
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To: Tamzee
...federal election monitors on site will go a long way to preventing a lot of this fraud...

It's a disgrace that Philly needs watchdogs to keep them honest. Unfortunately, I doubt they have the morals to be ashamed.

Voter cheats affect the ballots of every voter, whether the candidate is president, senator or rep. They all play a role in decisions which affect the whole country.

31 posted on 10/30/2006 11:37:43 PM PST by IIntense
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To: FreePoster
...it makes no sense at all.

So what's the answer? Guess we just grin (or grit our teeth) and bear it. Whose country is this, anyway?

32 posted on 10/30/2006 11:46:20 PM PST by IIntense
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To: rbosque
...accusations of voter fraud.

They've pulled this crap before, notably in 2000. The last I looked, George W. is still president, voted in again in '04.

I'd rather have them on the outside (with their lawsuits) than suffer their dominance of the Senate or House.

33 posted on 10/30/2006 11:53:20 PM PST by IIntense
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To: IIntense

You got that right.


34 posted on 10/31/2006 12:26:15 AM PST by rbosque
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To: IIntense
So what's the answer?

Photo ID and proof of eligibility to register, photo ID to vote. Pretty obvious, I think. Not too complicated either. We brave such intimidation and violation of our civil liberty for such things as renting videos or buying beer. And no one makes these complaints over traffic stops. If they do that, I won't care so much what languages they want to print the voter guides in.

35 posted on 10/31/2006 1:28:30 AM PST by FreePoster
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To: Tamzee
This could be very good. I have seen races turn with just talk of "federal agents" at polls. The problem for the rat becomes getting individual "voters" to commit voter fraud for the little bit of bribe money they can receive. It becomes too risky to possibly face federal trouble for a few dollars or a bottle of cheap wine.
36 posted on 10/31/2006 4:14:37 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (DON'T BELIEVE PESSIMISM: FEELINGS ARE FOR LOVE SONGS. FACTS ARE FOR PREDICTING WHO WINS IN NOV)
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To: IIntense

You got that right. I never heard my grandparents whine about having had to learn English. Matter of fact that made my one set fluent in three languages; I'm jealous.

If their allegiance is more to another country, or religion, they need to leave, yesterday.


37 posted on 10/31/2006 6:01:48 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: oneamericanvoice

I agree.


38 posted on 10/31/2006 6:02:38 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Tamzee

There should be FBI agents stationed at every polling booth in this Town. The Democrats steal thousands of votes in Philadelphia in every election.


39 posted on 10/31/2006 8:50:35 AM PST by Courdeleon02
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To: scrabblehack

and the Democrat always gets 115% of the vote.


40 posted on 10/31/2006 6:53:30 PM PST by Dmitry Vukicevich (Vegetarian: Indian Lingo for lousy hunter)
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